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X-Factor needs moving to January or someone could make a false story about the winner and start a blacklash? I know the latter is highly immoral and wrong, but it's one way. Just destory the winner in the press.

 

 

Alot of people say this is what happened to Joe in 2009 when he was pictured throwing a dart at a dart board with Rage on it on the friday of christmas. It was great as it simply boasted the campaign and the chart!!

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I still remember feeling highly triumphant when Bob the Builder beat Westlife back in 2000. A supposed 'novelty' song or not 'Can We Fix It' always sounded like it could make sense as a pop song. It has a better chorus than 99.9% of Westlife's actual #1s from that period of their career anyway.
We haven't had a Christmas No1 that's not a X Factor winner, charity record, or internet campaign since 2003! :mellow: :(

 

Actually there was a bit of an internet campaign in 2003 as well but in the pre-social networking days it probably didn't make any difference. And of course the Number One that year did come from a film.

X-Factor needs moving to January or someone could make a false story about the winner and start a blacklash? I know the latter is highly immoral and wrong, but it's one way. Just destory the winner in the press.

 

Good grief, is this really what people's thoughts have come to? :lol: It's quite silly really. Who cares if the X Factor get the Xmas #1 most years? It's no big deal surely.

 

Plus I can't see X Factor ending any time soon, ratings may be lower than they used to be but they're still excellent ratings and it's one of ITV's biggest shows, they'd be stupid to not renew the contract.

X-Factor needs moving to January or someone could make a false story about the winner and start a blacklash? I know the latter is highly immoral and wrong, but it's one way. Just destory the winner in the press.

Do people REALLY care this much about music charts? To ruin someone's career and reputation more or less straight away just so we get a "proper" Christmas #1?! Jesus.

What the Xmas #1 is doesn't even bother me lmao, it's just any old week really. But then, you always get the same old X Factor haters complaining.
X-Factor needs moving to January or someone could make a false story about the winner and start a blacklash? I know the latter is highly immoral and wrong, but it's one way. Just destory the winner in the press.

 

That would have been attempted by now if it were ever to happen...

Wasn't Steve Brookstein released in January and the Pop Idol winners?

 

Just as well you weren't on BJ in Dec 2009 Joe!!

I've just been re-reading my Chart Commentary from five years ago. Here is an extract...

 

Regular readers will know that I am no fan of Simon Cowell or X-Factor. Anyone who is a big fan of the show may wish to skip the next couple paragraphs. This year’s choice of song for the X-factor winner to perform is The Climb, originally a hit for Miley Cyrus earlier this year. I didn’t like the Cyrus version so I wasn’t expecting to like this version and I don’t. In fact, it’s probably even worse than I expected. It’s a typical XF winning song, so brilliantly pastiched by Peter Kay last year. Take a slushy ballad. Get some singer - it doesn’t matter where they’re from, South Shields will do - to sing in a faux-American accent. Add a key change somewhere and a choir. It’s all there.

 

By having themed nights for the finalists, the programme is more likely to be won by someone who is moderately competent at a number of different musical genres rather than by someone who is outstanding in some genres but hopeless in others. That is compounded by the fact that the winner’s song is chosen in advance. Judging by this, Joe McElderry has probably got a decent voice but this song just doesn’t suit him. Even though it would mean the single couldn’t be released as soon as the winner is announced, wouldn’t it be better to choose a song - either one specifically written for them or, if they must, yet another cover - after it is known who will record it? If they are hell-bent on releasing the single immediately why not have each of the final two or three contenders sing a different song - the one that they will release as a single if they win? At least then there might be a better match of winner and song. Clearly a lot of people agree. Hence the phenomenal success of this campaign.

 

At least there is no longer a single winner's song regardless of who wins but some of my other comments still apply.

If anyone is interested, here's a list of the Radio Airplay Christmas number ones.

 

1991 Simply Red - Stars

1992 Whitney Houston - I Will Always Love You

1993 Take That - Babe

1994 East 17 - Stay Another Day

1995 Michael Jackson - Earth Song

1996 Toni Braxton - Unbreak My Heart

1997 Natalie Imbruglia - Torn

1998 The Corrs - So Young

1999 Robbie Williams - She's The One

2000 Robbie Williams - Supreme

2001 Daniel Bedingfield - Gotta Get Thru This

2002 Robbie Williams - Feel

2003 Will Young - Leave Right Now

2004 Kylie Minogue - I Believe In You

2005 Madonna - Hung Up

2006 Take That - Patience

2007 Girls Aloud - Call The Shots

2008 Take That - Greatest Day

2009 Joe McElderry - The Climb

2010 Ellie Goulding - Your Song

2011 Mariah Carey - All I Want For Christmas Is You

2012 Olly Murs feat. Flo Rida - Troublemaker

2013 Avicii - Hey Brother

2014 Mark Ronson feat. Bruno Mars - Uptown Funk

 

Of all the X Factor songs to be on that list The Climb is the very last one I'd have guessed (well, after Steve Brookstein).
So Young :wub: I wonder how much Talk On Corners sold on Xmas week 1998?
Of all the X Factor songs to be on that list The Climb is the very last one I'd have guessed (well, after Steve Brookstein).

I assume it got a lot of airplay because of the battle with Rage Against The Machine but I'm still surprised it was enough to top the airplay chart.

Didn't The Pogues have the Christmas airplay #1 one year? Or was that the week before Christmas?
Didn't The Pogues have the Christmas airplay #1 one year? Or was that the week before Christmas?

 

They were number 2 behind Mariah on Christmas week in 2011, but it's never been number one as far as I can see.

 

So Young :wub: I wonder how much Talk On Corners sold on Xmas week 1998?
I've got the Music Week chart report for that week. The albums sales were (with rounded figures which was usually all Alan Jones quoted back then):

 

December 26, 1998

 

 

1. Ladies And Gentlemen - George Michael 309,000

2. I've Been Expecting You - Robbie Williams 178,000

3. Talk On Corners - The Corrs 156,000

 

5. Where We Belong - Boyzone 138,000

6. Step One - Steps 136,000

 

11. B*Witched - B*Witched 89,000

 

The top 37 artist albums all sold over 24,000 copies

 

 

Compilations:

 

1. Now 41 - 186,000

2. Hits 99 - 140,000

 

4. Chef Aid - The South Park Album 64,000

 

Total album sales for the week: 6,787,000

 

Didn't The Pogues have the Christmas airplay #1 one year? Or was that the week before Christmas?

 

As another poster said they were No2 behind Mariah in 2011s Xmas airplay chart but they did make it to No1 in the week following Joe McElderry in 2009. I assume that year was a strange one when the Xmas no1 was early or something as the following week had the airplay top 10 full of Xmas classics.

 

Here's the full list of peak positions for the Pogues 2006 - 2014

 

2014 - 9 so far

2013 - 3

2012 - 3

2011 - 2 - full week build up 18-24/12

2010 - 19

2009 - 1 this must have been a strange week as Joe was no1 the week before then the pogues followed him

2008 - 3

2007 - 7

2006 - 17(18/12/06) Xmas week missing In BJ archives

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I've just been re-reading my Chart Commentary from five years ago. Here is an extract...

At least there is no longer a single winner's song regardless of who wins but some of my other comments still apply.

 

Like I had just read it yesterday lol doesn't seem long ago!

I've got the Music Week chart report for that week. The albums sales were (with rounded figures which was usually all Alan Jones quoted back then):

 

December 26, 1998

1. Ladies And Gentlemen - George Michael 309,000

2. I've Been Expecting You - Robbie Williams 178,000

3. Talk On Corners - The Corrs 156,000

 

5. Where We Belong - Boyzone 138,000

6. Step One - Steps 136,000

 

11. B*Witched - B*Witched 89,000

 

The top 37 artist albums all sold over 24,000 copies

Compilations:

 

1. Now 41 - 186,000

2. Hits 99 - 140,000

 

4. Chef Aid - The South Park Album 64,000

 

Total album sales for the week: 6,787,000

 

Unreal figures, I remember when the Whole top 10 broke 100k, now only 2 albums!!

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