IMO Solo should mean just that on their own with no other credits

 

Otherwise do we say Nico & Vinz are soloists aswell?

 

I don't really understand where you're getting at, Nico & Vinz are clearly the name of the group. That's like saying PJ and Duncan are soloists!

 

I think this accreditation is absolutely fine, any credited work featuring the solo artists' name should be correct. They've projected themselves as a SOLO act in a project, so obviously with Cheryl her work with Girls Aloud would be void, as it's not Girls Aloud ft. Cheryl (poor PCD at the PCD ft. Nicole Scherzinger credit on 'Jai Ho' though), but will.i.am ft. Cheryl should totally count, it's going on her chart history after all and she as a SOLO artist contributed to it.

I can understand why people might not like it when a song counts to an artist's record when they are only a featured artist on the song (eg. Rita Ora on Hot Right Now) - but I think it's silly to suggest that songs should only count if they are the SOLE artist on that record. For example, I've seen someone argue that Crazy Stupid Love shouldn't count towards Cheryl's record cos Tinie Tempah is featured. That, to me, is going too far

It's a modern invention this featuring credit whereby someone can get credit on a record they had no creative input on and just bunged in a quick 15 second rap. Compare say David bowie who wrote produced sang on prominently all the young dudes for Mott the hoople or the man who sold the world for lulu yet gets no artist credit.

 

The fairest system is to restrict it to the main act cos guesting is just guesting. If it's a proper collaboration between acts then an "and" would be better than the lesser "featuring". To me anyway :lol:

Can I finally credit Dido as having a solo UK no.1 please? She featured on Stan.

Can I finally credit Dido as having a solo UK no.1 please? She featured on Stan.

 

Her voice is on Stan but she doesn't feature on it in terms of credits so no :P If the credit were "Eminem feat. Dido" then it would be a #1 for her as far as I'm concerned.

Her voice is on Stan but she doesn't feature on it in terms of credits so no :P If the credit were "Eminem feat. Dido" then it would be a #1 for her as far as I'm concerned.

 

But it's on her Greatest Hits and credited as Eminem feat. Dido.

But it's on her Greatest Hits and credited as Eminem feat. Dido.

 

If it's Eminem feat. Dido then it definitely counts. She's not listed on Polyhex though so I'm presuming she wasn't credited on its actual release. I don't know really, Bray can probably shed more light on this.

If it's Eminem feat. Dido then it definitely counts. She's not listed on Polyhex though so I'm presuming she wasn't credited on its actual release. I don't know really, Bray can probably shed more light on this.

 

I'm sort of just being annoying (though the greatest hits bit is actually true including the credit). I just wish it could count since loads of artists are claiming solo no.1s for much more minimal contribution.

 

Unfortunately there's no way I can force history to recognise a solo no.1 from Anastacia :(

If it's Eminem feat. Dido then it definitely counts. She's not listed on Polyhex though so I'm presuming she wasn't credited on its actual release. I don't know really, Bray can probably shed more light on this.

She got a feature credit in the small print of the single:

 

http://i.imgur.com/tSMbqI5.png

 

And more prominently on the album back cover:

 

http://i.imgur.com/rWrYPoh.png

 

So I consider it a genuine feature. For whatever it matters :lol:

I would personally consider 'Stan' to count as a #1 for Dido, a lot of places seem to credit her and she did a significant contribution to the song.

 

Then again I also count 'Wake Me Up' as an Aloe Blacc #1 despite him not being officially credited (except in the YouTube video) :kink:

Fair enough :lol: I'd never have known either of those things!

I hate to bash faves but when a list contains Cheryl, Geri, Pixie, RITA ORA and Jessie J, I see nothing wrong with someone as talented as Jess Glynne featuring.

 

I lie, I love bashing faves.

Hahahaha! So much truth (although still love r Cheryl)!

 

Jess and Rita have the entirety of the singing on all of their #1s (apart from Tinie Tempah's rap on "R.I.P."), so why would they not 'count' towards their totals? 😏

Queen Dido slaying faves, snatching weaves as per.

It's a modern invention this featuring credit whereby someone can get credit on a record they had no creative input on and just bunged in a quick 15 second rap.

 

Exactly - it's a way of appealing to fans of the "featuring" artist and gaining sales by association. It began around 1988 when dance producers would feature a vocalist or rapper on one record in order to give it more commercial appeal e.g. Coldcut, Bomb the Bass, Beatmasters etc. and reciprocally this would often propel the featured artist to stardom too - and this was fine and it worked - you simply didn't have things at the time like Bros featuring Kim Wilde or Tiffany featuring Glenn Medeiros.

 

I'm convinced the likes of Busta Rhymes regularly goes into a studio to record up to fifty short rap segments over a metronome and then these are offered up to labels to sprinkle liberally over songs that have nothing to do with the rap content.

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I'd say a large amount of it ids marketing. Especially if you have Pop-singer feat. Rapper. You're more likely get to played by two different types of radio in the US if you do that and you appeal to fans of both the singer and the rapper which I assume leads to more sales, higher charts positions, etc.

 

I wouldn't count Stan as a number 1 for Dido because I'm quite sure that when she recorded Thank You she had no idea that it would be sampled and therefor Stan cannot be seen as a collaboration' if you consider a collaboration to be two or more artists working on a new piece of music together with the express intention that both contributions are part of a larger whole and do not exist elsewhere, independently.

I think "Stan" is a track on which even the OCC change their minds on. At the time she was uncredited in music week and thusly on polyhex which is where I normally take my cue from for my threads Re acts getting a credit or not. Certainly at the time she wasn't mentioned really, certainly on the chart show, it seems to have grown as a credit since she became a recognisable name. Same on "Crazy In Love" a solo credit at the time which seems to have been revised at some point after.

I think she should be credited, of course. But I dont think she should claim it as a solo number 1 as she didn't lead the collaboration nor was it even solo.

 

In fact, why are some of these counted as solo when they're clearly not solo?

 

 

I think she should be credited, of course. But I dont think she should claim it as a solo number 1 as she didn't lead the collaboration nor was it even solo.

 

In fact, why are some of these counted as solo when they're clearly not solo?

 

That's the big debate you see. I only brought Dido up for that very reason. I don't think it should count as a solo no.1 for her but I don't see why not since Cheryl and Rita have both had collaborations count.

 

If we just count completely solo credit songs then Cheryl has equaled Geri's record and that's it.

I always think of solo in this respect as a #1 for that 'solo' artist, rather than 'solo' in collaborative terms (as in, they're not in a band/group).

I think the record company decides on the credit when they register it with the OCC. In the case of "Stan" she clearly wasn't a name that they thought could assist with sales. There often isn't rhyme or reason other than a record company executive making a decision.