I'm sorry, but that first paragraph is crossing the line a little bit. Regardless of what you think of Theresa May, she's spoken publically about her heartache about not being able to have children. Let's not forget that Andrea Leadsom's leadership campaign was derailed for making similar references.

 

Your anger at Theresa May is understandable given everything, but I hope you will withdraw those remarks.

So, over a million opinions is just "populism" says the childless lonely old woman of Westminster. One of the biggest populist examples on the government website then, in that case. If only she'd had a child she might have learned the value of warmth, love and humanity.

Sorry but this argument is fucking disgusting.

Gone too far? I did. Apologise? Don't think so. Speaking as someone who suffers personally at the hands of her governments ongoing life-threatening decisions - let's take today's headlines about looking after our elderly as an example. I already look after my own elderly parents, with NO help from the State of significance, as does every other person that I know of in that situation who has to deal with alzheimers, heart attacks and a full-time job with less people and months of backlog. Short of stopping sleeping to try and do even more, it's not physically possible to do even more.

 

This government is shifting the blame onto families, when it's their inhuman and cruel policies that are fault. We are already struggling, and as they cut more and kill more people off by their actions they are truly evil and loathesome. I despise Theresa May and her bland platitudes, saying one thing and cold-heartedly doing another. Ambulances will now take 2 hours locally to get to hospitals (5 minutes drive away), Councils have been hammered, after care is useless and bed-blocking is going on thanks to that.

 

As head of the government she would rather support anti-democratic right-wing borderline fascist politics rather than do things to help her own citizens, or listen to them. She is a cold-hearted woman, no matter what she has said about the heartache of being childless. Loads of us who love children are childless (err hello!) that doesn't mean you have to use it as a means of getting sympathy nor use at is a means of arguing your opponent is cold because of it. She isn't cold because of it, I accept that. She's cold because of her inherant nature as demonstrated in all she does and says.

in light of my earlier unkind remarks about Theresa May, I thought I'd offers some advice for the poor heartaching dear, based on examples taken from my friends and colleagues, none of whom have gone public about their personal heartbreaks:

 

there's my friend of 40 years standing, who having brought up her children alone, has gone down the route of fostering and adoption, on her own, in her late 50's, with the full support of her family. She loves her adopted children dearly.

 

there's my work colleague in his late 50's, and not in the best of health, who with his wife have experienced the joy of given a home to an adopted little girl from a difficult background, and work hard to keep her happy.

 

There's me, lived with my brother's children when they were toddlers for 2 years, and have the joy of having children that are both related and unrelated around me, pretty much my whole life non-stop. I'm going on holiday with my niece, who I took on holiday when she was 5, and am now doing the same for her family and 3-year-old, and her 50-something childless friend who loves my great nephew to bits.

 

So, rather than spend a life bemoaning what you don't have, it's rather easy (especially when you have shitloads of money for nannies and private schools) to experience the joy of children.

 

Self-pitying, sympathy-grabbing PR jobs are not needed, all you need to do is accept that it's possible to dearly love children who haven't sprung from your own loins. These options have been all her life, and still are, available to the Prime Minister. The last Prime Minister coped with having children. So did the one before that.

 

Just a suggestion.

I'm not sure I'd go as far as saying the last Prime Minister coped with anything.

in light of my earlier unkind remarks about Theresa May, I thought I'd offers some advice for the poor heartaching dear, based on examples taken from my friends and colleagues, none of whom have gone public about their personal heartbreaks:

 

there's my friend of 40 years standing, who having brought up her children alone, has gone down the route of fostering and adoption, on her own, in her late 50's, with the full support of her family. She loves her adopted children dearly.

 

there's my work colleague in his late 50's, and not in the best of health, who with his wife have experienced the joy of given a home to an adopted little girl from a difficult background, and work hard to keep her happy.

 

There's me, lived with my brother's children when they were toddlers for 2 years, and have the joy of having children that are both related and unrelated around me, pretty much my whole life non-stop. I'm going on holiday with my niece, who I took on holiday when she was 5, and am now doing the same for her family and 3-year-old, and her 50-something childless friend who loves my great nephew to bits.

 

So, rather than spend a life bemoaning what you don't have, it's rather easy (especially when you have shitloads of money for nannies and private schools) to experience the joy of children.

 

Self-pitying, sympathy-grabbing PR jobs are not needed, all you need to do is accept that it's possible to dearly love children who haven't sprung from your own loins. These options have been all her life, and still are, available to the Prime Minister. The last Prime Minister coped with having children. So did the one before that.

 

Just a suggestion.

What the fuck? She hardly spent a life bemoaning what she doesn't have. She seems whenever mentioned to have been quite reserved about it. She certainly hasn't come across as someone trying to actively solace sympathy or weeping about what a hard time she's had, and you couldn't even begin to know if it's something her and her husband have discussed. You're coming off as a complete cock with this line of very personalised and presumptive argument, in honesty.

Mate it's time to admit you overstepped and withdraw not double down. As much of an evil c**t May is, that's way beyond the realms of reasonable and fair. It's such a sensitive issue that causes a lot of pain for those it affects. The things you've said are just some of the paths and one of those paths is not to adopt or anything because it may cause you too much heartache. It also encroaches deeply into a private life we really know nothing about. Auntie Theresa could be the hit of the family reunion with the kids and tbh it's f***ing irrelevant if she is or isn't.

 

I think she's a vile human, no one who comes out with some of her quotes is a nice human being, but let's stick to using her policies and xenophobic rhetoric as the metaphorical stick to beat her with. No need to stoop to their level

All true comments. All very personal and I should be ashamed at stooping to the level of the rags who do hatchet jobs on everyone they don't agree with (and her colleagues), especially when I can't disagree with anything said.

 

At a time when some Tories are claiming that they are no longer the nasty party, others are determined to demonstrate that they are actually nastier than ever...

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/fe...l-homosexuality

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40571123

 

Conservatives have 'no plan' for no deal (no deal is better than a bad deal © Theresa May, 2016)

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40555639

 

Newton Abbot MP Anne Marie Morris suspended from the Conservative party for using racist remarks at a panel event discussing Brexit.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/j...en-election-law

 

Conservative party call centre 'may have broken election law'

Boris The Toff is a privately-educated moron. Every time he opens his mouth he shows himself up to be a fool. Like Lord Of The Ciggie Manor Rees-Mogg he's not funny, loveable and amiable in any way. He is dangerous. Having slashed London fire services as Mayor ("get stuffed" to criticism of that move) and lambasted the EU for decades, and made ludicrous promises about Leaving the EU (being the primary vote-campaigner for the result), none of which have any remote possibility of coming true - Tory party statements and policies have proven this - he shows his utter thick-headedness by pompously making stands that will badly affect the people of the UK who will suffer from leaving the EU, and are already suffering from the inflationary pound-drop and increasing prices but not wages.

 

He can't ever admit he was wrong, and is a fool, so like Trump he just digs his heels in and shouts a bit louder when confronted with facts and reason that he has lied about from day one. He should listen to his sister, she obviously got the brains in his family.

Why single out just the Tories, though?

Why single out just the Tories, though?

 

 

errr....they are the government with the job to make it a success. Other politicians are irrelevant onlookers unless the Tories collapse and Labour get in, or force them to accept changes to their plan (whatever that is).

errr....they are the government with the job to make it a success.

 

I assume you mean 'running the country' rather than 'spreading lies & deceit'. :lol:

Why single out just the Tories, though?

 

Why indeed...

 

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2017/...e-student-debts

 

So much for the 'fully costed' manifesto...

Why indeed...

 

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2017/...e-student-debts

 

So much for the 'fully costed' manifesto...

 

Corbyn's manifesto was never going to be 100% - too many wish lists on it to be accurate. Though they did at least give a few more details than the Tories. As in, any details at all would have been nice.

 

For example, the small detail of extending the retirement age, bringing it forward 8 years may have helped people make up their mind who to vote for. Not mentioned at all. Yet here we are days later and it's law..

Corbyn's manifesto was never going to be 100% - too many wish lists on it to be accurate. Though they did at least give a few more details than the Tories. As in, any details at all would have been nice.

 

For example, the small detail of extending the retirement age, bringing it forward 8 years may have helped people make up their mind who to vote for. Not mentioned at all. Yet here we are days later and it's law..

 

But which is worse - no details, or false details?

 

As for the retirement age, only someone whose been living in a cave wouldn't know about it being due for increase - that's been on the table for many years.

But which is worse - no details, or false details?

 

As for the retirement age, only someone whose been living in a cave wouldn't know about it being due for increase - that's been on the table for many years.

Yes, the increase has been on the table for years. However, do you really believe that they only decided to bring it forward by seven years in the last few weeks? Even if the final decision was only made in the last few weeks it will have been discussed for some time before that.

 

Before the 2015 election the Labour party wanted to submit their manifesto to the Office for Budget Responsibility for scrutiny. Osborme refused permission. Opposition party manifestos are always going to have some flaws unless the parties are able to call on the same resources as the governing party(ies). There is no excuse for a party which has been in power for seven years omitting any mention of how they proposed paying for their manifesto commitments. They also can't use the excuse "We knew things were bad, but we didn't realise quite how bad they were".

 

Perhaps parties should simply publish a manifesto that says "We will do stuff".

Here, here!!

 

If they do no have any details in ther manifesto, except some stuff for rich people like fox hunting, as it is 'jolly good fun', thrn ehat are people voting for?? Disgraceful.

Here, here!!

 

If they do no have any details in ther manifesto, except some stuff for rich people like fox hunting, as it is 'jolly good fun', thrn ehat are people voting for?? Disgraceful.

 

ISTM it's more a case of what are they voting against...