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The Tories are clearly bored, so they have decided to invent some new games for themselves.

 

First, there is the game called "I am even thicker than Nadine Dorries", in which MPs compete to prove that it really is possible for an MP to be even dimmer than the spectacularly dim Culture Secretary. Desmond Swayne (who has been in the news before due to his belief that compulsory mask wearing is a far bigger assault on civil liberties than, for example, permanent restrictions on the right to protest) has said in the Commons that the "carnage" on UK roads is "certainly killing more people than Covid at the moment". The average number of people killed per day on UK roads from 2012-2019 (I have excluded 2020 as the reduced amount of traffic led to a lower number of casualties) was about five.

 

Then there is the attempt to show an even greater contempt for democracy than that demonstrated by the various measures going through parliament at the moment. Commenting on the N Shropshire byelection, an unamed Tory spokesperson (they often decide that their statements are so outrageous that they would rather not attach their name to it) has repeated their veiled threat from other byelections that ministers will only discuss anything with the local MP if they are a Tory, but this one has gone even further. They have accused the other parties of using the byelection for party political purposes. Most of us probably thought that was what elections were about, but the Tories now seem to think that it is an outrage that opposition parties have dared to nominate a candidate and campaign for them to win.

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99 Tory MPs rebelled against Boris. That's even more than I expected and the biggest rebellion under the current government so far.

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The law might have changed, but people's behaviour hasn't and likely won't.

 

I've barely seen anyone wearing masks for the past week - essentially since the party news came out - except on trains where people are probably worried about some over officious BTP warrior, most shopkeepers aren't challenging anybody (they've just perspex up to keep themselves protected and seem happy to let the public kill each other off as long as they're spending money rather than challenge people over it, and to be honest as someone whose worked in customer service, specifically enforced rules people didn't agree with (thankfully before Covid) I don't blame them one bit - most aren't paid enough)

 

Disgusted at Labour voting this through rather than abstaining/going against it though.

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The law might have changed, but people's behaviour hasn't and likely won't.

 

I've barely seen anyone wearing masks for the past week - essentially since the party news came out - except on trains where people are probably worried about some over officious BTP warrior, most shopkeepers aren't challenging anybody (they've just perspex up to keep themselves protected and seem happy to let the public kill each other off as long as they're spending money rather than challenge people over it, and to be honest as someone whose worked in customer service, specifically enforced rules people didn't agree with (thankfully before Covid) I don't blame them one bit - most aren't paid enough)

 

Disgusted at Labour voting this through rather than abstaining/going against it though.

 

Where do you live? From what I've seen mask compliance is probably at the same levels it was in April/May time. You're always going to get idiots, I don't really like wearing them but I understand the current situation we're in right now. People were going to break the rules regardless, they just use the Government as room to justify their actions.

The law might have changed, but people's behaviour hasn't and likely won't.

 

I've barely seen anyone wearing masks for the past week - essentially since the party news came out - except on trains where people are probably worried about some over officious BTP warrior, most shopkeepers aren't challenging anybody (they've just perspex up to keep themselves protected and seem happy to let the public kill each other off as long as they're spending money rather than challenge people over it, and to be honest as someone whose worked in customer service, specifically enforced rules people didn't agree with (thankfully before Covid) I don't blame them one bit - most aren't paid enough)

 

Disgusted at Labour voting this through rather than abstaining/going against it though.

 

I think Labour voting it through was the right choice. The restrictions aren't that bad and should help reduce transmission if people follow them. Plus from a political perspective, it makes sense too. Less lines of attack from the conservatives, whilst the rebelling conservatives may help funnel more votes towards Reform UK (Reform have taken some of the lost conservative votes based on opinon polling).

 

I have noticed a lot more people wearing masks again - particularly on the tube. For the most part I don't see too much issue over the restrictions that were brought in - they're fairly sensible and easy to adhere to. Although they will likely hurt the hospitality sector with quite a few people cancelling parties etc. But that would've happened regardless imo with the rise of Omicron and people's concerns about it.

Not a cabinet minister but a big name Tory scalp, the London Mayor candidate and all round asshole Shaun Bailey steps down from his London Assembly post due to being caught on camera having a party last Christmas :D

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/d...n-party-reports

 

That'll be yet another massive blow to the conservatives. And the fact Bailey immediately quit his role speaks volumes and will be hard for the Torys to "cover up".

99 Tory MPs rebelled against Boris. That's even more than I expected and the biggest rebellion under the current government so far.

 

We just need to manifest that by-election loss to the Lib Dems now. Don't let us down people of North Shropshire!!

 

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So the person doing the inquiry into the Christmas parties had a party of their own?

 

A staff "Christmas party" was held last year at the office of the man investigating lockdown parties at Downing Street.

 

Top civil servant Simon Case is due to report shortly on claims Covid rules were broken at events for staff in the run up to last Christmas.

 

But the BBC has been told that Mr Case's position as chair of the inquiry is now under consideration.

 

No 10 is expected to issue a statement later on Mr Case's position.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59701369

 

You couldn't make this up. :lol:

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Unelected bureaucrat David Frost is reported to have resigned from the Cabinet a week ago but Downing Street hasn't bothered to say anything. Among the words that come to mind are rat, ship and sinking.

I think Savid Javid is about to get an interesting phone call from Boris......

 

Something along the lines of 'shut the f*** up and read what I've already said to the press....' after that Marr interview.

I think Savid Javid is about to get an interesting phone call from Boris......

 

Something along the lines of 'shut the f*** up and read what I've already said to the press....' after that Marr interview.

 

 

He was remarkably candid for a Tory and accepted that they were responsible for the loss last Thursday. I thought to myself that I bet Boris, if he's watching, and others, are cringeing at his honesty.

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