September 28, 20159 yr Do my votes not being counted in 77 count as being manipulated? Ponibbi would've won in that case even though procedure is that unintentionally late votes have been accepted (as has been done so in the past)?? That is a complete different scenario as Lee has stated that no late votes would be accepted. It's up to the host's decision as to whether late votes are accepted or not, thus your votes not being counted in 77 isn't a form of manipulation.
September 28, 20159 yr That is a complete different scenario as Lee has stated that no late votes would be accepted. It's up to the host's decision as to whether late votes are accepted or not, thus your votes not being counted in 77 isn't a form of manipulation. Okay thank you Yu!
September 28, 20159 yr Not if i drag you down. How can you possibly drag me down? I've not once tampered the votes.
September 28, 20159 yr How can you possibly drag me down? I've not once tampered the votes.With my love nobody can drag you down NOBODEH NOBODEH
September 28, 20159 yr How can you possibly drag me down? I've not once tampered the votes. I'm joking. I think this has been dealt with appallingly, I've not even been asked, a country changed their votes from the original 2/3 days before the results and I originally thought 10 - 15minutes before Mugracia had won, I see no manipulation there. I'm happy that James will win because he deserves it, just don't bother dragging me down because of one member. If we're going to discuss manipulation then please get out of the glass houses. I understand what's going on but I did not change any scores just because I felt like it.
September 28, 20159 yr Yeah, (in some cases) I'm not English enough to decide which comments are serious and which ones are jokes.
September 28, 20159 yr I'm joking. I think this has been dealt with appallingly, I've not even been asked, a country changed their votes from the original 2/3 days before the results and I originally thought 10 - 15minutes before Mugracia had won, I see no manipulation there. I'm happy that James will win because he deserves it, just don't bother dragging me down because of one member. If we're going to discuss manipulation then please get out of the glass houses. I understand what's going on but I did not change any scores just because I felt like it. Care to let us know which country this was? Then they can speak for themselves if this is the case?
September 28, 20159 yr **CLEARING THINGS UP** I asked Joe on Thursday night why Mulgracia only got 1 point, because he'd previously said to me how big a fan of the song he was, and he then told me that Lee had asked him to change his votes, to move Mulgracia down. Joe agreed but ONLY to one or two spots (they originally were down for 13 points, Aquafina for 15). Joe was then asked by Lee if Mulgracia could be moved further down and Aquafina up to 18, to which Joe ignored. When it came to results, Joe noticed that Lee went ahead with this regardless - Aquafina were bumped up to 18 points and Mulgracia down to 1. Joe spoke to me because he was very annoyed, and it was me who reported it to the mods. He didn't report it immediately because he was worried about the reaction and the fact he may get punished etc. Joe felt extremely guilty having seen that it changed the winner, which was why I told Jack and Yu. I'm posting this to clear things up and Joe's not really in the mood to talk about it. He is extremely sorry for this situation (although it of course wasn't his fault, he shouldn't have been approached in the first place for such a thing) and will of course put his foot down harder in the future if this ever happened.
September 28, 20159 yr I've spoke to Joe about this and he changed his votes days before the results? I never changed them without him knowing / him changing them. I'm not getting the abuse when I would have preferred finishing second place rather than first. I'm not overly fussed so blame me etc but that's not what happened! I never changed anything without anyone knowing and never held anyone at gunpoint. SHARING RESULTS :o
September 28, 20159 yr I'm not English enough to decide which comments are serious and which ones are jokes. :heart: :heart:
September 28, 20159 yr Are there any more cases of vote tampering in the contest? This makes me sad :( EDIT: oh, the OP answers this, sorry! Edited September 28, 20159 yr by Josh.
September 28, 20159 yr for anyone thinking this is anything to do with me, it's not, as i said i've left things up to people and it's a different issue.
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