When is the best selling singles of the year chart announced on radio one?

When is the best selling singles of the year chart announced on radio one?

Never. :(

 

they're doing some stupid Number Ones show tomorrow instead :arrr:

Never. :(

 

they're doing some stupid Number Ones show tomorrow instead :arrr:

 

Really? They usually announce it on New Year's Eve. Can't believe they aren't doing anything this year.

I like to know where the next #1 track is going to come from, hardly any new releases for the month of January, could be a climber, love to see Grace getting there, maybe Snakehips could climb very slowly to the top 'All My Friends' is not that bad, otherwise it be Justin Bieber for the next month or so :drama: Needs someone like Rihanna to drop a new release.

 

Zara Larsson perhaps?

I think Love Yourself will be #1 for the whole of January actually unless some big release happens (which probably won't, because it's January)

Zara Larsson perhaps?

 

That was my first initial reaction I noted it, in one of my previous chart topics, I love to see Lush Love getting there, beautiful track. Its just January new releases have always been pretty slim for the past few years.

I think Love Yourself will be #1 for the whole of January actually unless some big release happens (which probably won't, because it's January)

 

Think this will happen too - Say hello to some 65k weeks for the #1 :( I never understand why some acts don't release in this period and snatch an easy #1/big hit based on the lack of anything being released!

There probably will be releases in January, just that they don't get pre-announced. For example Birdy has a single out tomorrow - we only know about it because her website posted the story early by mistake.

 

But with OAOS most of them will bomb :wacko:

 

 

I bit like the current songs in the top 5 like Hello & Sorry :wacko:

I bit like the current songs in the top 5 like Hello & Sorry :wacko:

 

Exactly :lol: Every song in the iTunes top 10 bar Sigala had an OA/OS style release. It all depends on radio playlisting but then it did with held back pre-orders anyway.

Yeh held back releases can obv be sucesses too but the current top 10 is full of OAOS releases, also some less huge artists than Adele like MNEK & Zara have had huge Q4 hits which have gained in popularity!

Edited December 31, 201510 yr by Christmaseve201

Of course the top 10 is full of OAOS releases - it would have to be, since almost everything is now. It definitely works for big artists. We're now seeing some examples of new artists also doing well (in spite of it, not because of it IMHO), but I'm still worried about the number of casualties. I'm not sure that the pros outweigh the cons. I think overall more sales are being lost by records not taking off as they would have done with a build-up, than sales that were being lost previously by holding records back. I believe the dramatic fall in downloads is partly down to OAOS as much as streaming's increased popularity.

I believe the dramatic fall in downloads is partly down to OAOS as much as streaming's increased popularity.

 

If that statement is true how come sales were increasing hugely in 2011 when OAOS was first adopted (then sabotaged by greedy record labels and UK radio), and sales dropped off starting in August 2013 and haven't recovered since?

If that statement is true how come sales were increasing hugely in 2011 when OAOS was first adopted (then sabotaged by greedy record labels and UK radio), and sales dropped off starting in August 2013 and haven't recovered since?

 

OAOS only lasted a few months in 2011 and was dropped because it wasn't working!

OAOS only lasted a few months in 2011 and was dropped because it wasn't working!

 

That doesn't address my point that it didn't affect sales.

That doesn't address my point that it didn't affect sales.

 

They didn't stick with it long enough for it to affect sales.

Or.. the use and adoption of OAOS has little or no noticeable effect on sales, yet you/others are using the general trend seen as a result of movement from digital to streaming services as an argument against an inherently sensible policy to releases that works everywhere else in the world, but due to the incompetent nature of record companies and an ignorant UK record industry (that was itself slow to adopt digital) that still acts as though it is 1997.

 

This is why I actual revel at the depressing state of sales - the UK industry has partly brought it on itself.

OAOS advocates - do you believe the current Sigala's Sweet Lovin' would have sold more copies had it been released earlier? I don't. I think it'd would've at best bounced around the top 40 for a couple months, or at worst, debuted at #45, sinking without a trace within a few weeks and killing its chances of building any radio support. It would've be have made 4 weeks in the top 10.

 

Is Sigma's Coming Home going to end up selling more copies because it was released OAOS, or if they'd held it back a month would it have debuted in the top 5 and still be top 10 now?

 

Remember the whole point of OAOS was to increase sales, and whilst we can argue all day about whether it is has an effect on reducing them, there's no evidence that it's increasing them in most cases. So what's the point? Some records are doing fine with it, but are they actually winding up selling more copies in the long-run or not? If that's the point, then it's not working. I think labels are going to realise it's too much hard work to get records by non-established acts to smash this way, and we'll see some changes in strategy in 2016.

Or.. the use and adoption of OAOS has little or no noticeable effect on sales, yet you/others are using the general trend seen as a result of movement from digital to streaming services as an argument against an inherently sensible policy to releases that works everywhere else in the world, but due to the incompetent nature of record companies and an ignorant UK record industry (that was itself slow to adopt digital) that still acts as though it is 1997.

 

This is why I actual revel at the depressing state of sales - the UK industry has partly brought it on itself.

 

I agree completely, holding back any song that the public has access to via streaming and hearing on radio will only surely lose sales for it.

 

Streaming will wipe out downloads in the next year or two anyway but the UK industry hasn't helped.

Here's a good OAOS comparison - both debuted the same week, one OAOS and the other held back:

 

Cavlin Harris + Disciples “How Deep Is Your Love”

CR: 7-6-{2}-2-3-4-4-4-3-4-7-9-11-14-17-17-21-23-22-23-26-30-33* (23 weeks so far)

Sales: 771,000

 

John Newman “Come And Get It”

CR: {5}-14-21-27-36-52-45-60-68-75 (10 weeks)

Sales: ~200,000

 

Initially John Newman is happiest because he has beaten Calvin by 2 places on the chart, but oh.. the following week he has fallen out of the Top 10 and now Calvin is out-peaking him.

Or.. the use and adoption of OAOS has little or no noticeable effect on sales, yet you/others are using the general trend seen as a result of movement from digital to streaming services as an argument against an inherently sensible policy to releases that works everywhere else in the world, but due to the incompetent nature of record companies and an ignorant UK record industry (that was itself slow to adopt digital) that still acts as though it is 1997.

 

This is why I actual revel at the depressing state of sales - the UK industry has partly brought it on itself.

 

I don't actually agree that it does work everywhere else in the world. The U.S. has of course always been different, and it can take months for records to build there. But in many major European territories it has also become more difficult for new or less-established acts to chart, than it was 10 years ago or so.

 

Yes, streaming is a huge part of the reason why download sales are decreasing. But without a build-up of demand, there's no big first week sales (with the obvious exceptions), and records aren't building up steam over a number of weeks as you might expect - they're just selling in far smaller quantities, for, if they're lucky, a slightly longer period than they would've done.

 

If OAOS isn't working as well as it should, then the blame has to lay more with the media being so reluctant to jump on new releases. I don't see why the record companies have brought it on itself. They want this to work.