Some of the people on this BBC news report tonight are making me so angry all over again.

so as it turns out a lot of voters actually wanted to remain but voted leave as a protest vote in an effort to force change at the EU whilst remaining in it.

 

others are waking up and realising they should have voted remain.

 

what a sad day for our nation :( I'm sure Remain would have won if people were more informed of the facts.

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/leave...wide%20p$3

 

A student has explained the awful moment she woke up this morning and realised she voted LEAVE and now actually wants to REMAIN.

 

The woman - known only as Mandy - claimed she is "very disappointed" by the result of the EU referendum result today, despite voting for Brexit yesterday.

 

She said that the "reality" of the consequences has now hit her and that given her chance again she would instead vote to remain.

 

The student - speaking to ITV News at Manchester Airport - blamed her decision on the "the pressure of being told" by the two opposing camps who she should vote for during the campaign.

 

Certainly it appears Mandy is not alone in her sentiments today - with many publicly stating on social media that less than 24hrs after polls closed, they would vote differently should they have another chance.

 

Some of them appeared to have assumed that Britain would remain within the EU regardless of their vote - and opted to register a protest vote at the way the EU was run in a hope a large minority would force change.

 

The BBC's Nick Robinson said he spoke to voters from both sides in Sunderland who'd "not voted since Thatcher" but "voted today in protest against establishment, Tories & Brussels".

 

One voter - known only as Adam - told Victoria Derbyshire on the BBC: “I didn’t think that was going to happen.

 

“My vote – I didn’t think was going to matter too much because I thought we were just going to remain.”

 

"The David Cameron resignation has blown me away to be honest.

 

"I think the period of uncertainty we’re going to have for the next few months has been magnified, so I’m quite worried.”

 

Others were furious that Nigel Farage backtracked at breakfast on a pledge to give the £350m given to the EU every week to the NHS instead - saying that looking back at the campaign it had been a “mistake” to make that promise.

 

One user, known only as a barmaid called Gibbo, said she felt “robbed” of her vote after “believing these lies” from the Leave campaign.

 

Ex-PM Tony Blair believes that a significant number of people were trying to register a protest vote.

 

He said: “Many people who voted Leave who saw this as a protest vote.

 

"And it wasn’t, I’m afraid. It was a decision vote.”

 

Just when you think it couldn't get any worse...

Are they actually retarded? jesus f***ing christ

Edited June 24, 20169 yr by Devan

Are these people dumb

 

Leave means Leave, remain means remain :magic:

Edited June 24, 20169 yr by HarryEzra

One of the key features of democracy is that everyone is entitled to vote, even the very stupid and easily led and the downright evil.

 

Every time forces of good make a step forward there will always be miserable people trying to undo it. Lots of people are not cuddly reasonable loveable folk. Lots of them are lying greedy selfish callous bast*rds preying on the naive and weak.

 

Human history in a nutshell.

I took a screenshot of the US stock markets on my phone and this is the result 12 hours into the decision

 

http://i.imgur.com/dmuQHDM.png

 

Something tells me that the Mayan calendar was four years too late

The mayor of Calais has been reported as saying they want to renegotiate the Treaty of Le Bouquet i.e. the reason Calais looks like a war zone instead of Dover.

 

Leave said it would never happen. 13 hours post declaration of Brexit and France has already gone there.

For a man whose only job outside politics was in PR, Cameron screwed this up really badly. In normal circumstances, his announcement that he would not be contesting the 2020 election as leader was a reasonable one, in line with Blair's similar announcement before the 2005 election. However, to do so knowing that he might be obliged to call a referendum which would see his party split down the middle was unbelievably stupid. It left the way open for the half of his party campaigning against him to call him a liar, an accusation they may have been less willing to make if they faced the prospect of having it quoted back at them at the next election.

 

He gambled the future of this country in a bid to save his career. Now he looks like he might have managed to lose both.

Good riddance to bad smells. Now he can take his economically illiterate sidekick with him.

 

I'd celebrate more if it wasn't for the fact that what is waiting in the wings is oh so very much worse.

Won't be next few years, will be before the UK leaves EU. Nicola is a clever lass, that vote will be coming soon to capitalise on the anger and to get in there before the EU and UK come to any deal so that Scotland can approach both with the logical proposition of being the legal successor state to the United Kingdom from the EU's POV allowing rUK to negotiate a fresh set of terms as if it was a new country approaching the EU.

 

Two things have changed since 2014 in comparison with Scottish politics -

 

1)the case for leave economically was based on oil which has jumped off a cliff

2) Ruth Davidson is a opposition that can gain support for the unionist cause

Oil won't be as low as it is forever and in the past people argued that Scotland should remain based on the economic loss that leaving the EU would be, whereas now you can argue to leave based on the economic boon that remaining in the EU would be. Scotland looks better than it did two years ago despite the oil drop, particularly as the possibility of oil falling off a cliff was taken into account at the time and was a driving force for the result we got in the end.

Two things have changed since 2014 in comparison with Scottish politics -

 

1)the case for leave economically was based on oil which has jumped off a cliff

2) Ruth Davidson is a opposition that can gain support for the unionist cause

The loss for independence came down to currency and the European Union. Their economic proposals have been endorsed at two elections since indyref so Scotland is buying what they are selling.

 

1) Collapsing GBP and loss of EU membership removes previous fears that Better Together used to get their vote. The potential upswing from being the link between rUK and the EU far outweighs an oil price of $50/barrel.

2) Which ignores that 50% of people in 2015 voted for the Nationalists and then in May they were elected on 47% giving them the largest mandate of any government in Europe. Remember we just need 5%, the rise of the Greens mean that more than 50% of people in Scotland voted for a pro-indy party in May. As good as Ruth is, she can't over turn the emphatic statement Scotland made last night - especially when you consider some 35% of SNP voters voted to leave the EU and will return to the fold for indyref2.

Oil won't be as low as it is forever and in the past people argued that Scotland should remain based on the economic loss that leaving the EU would be, whereas now you can argue to leave based on the economic boon that remaining in the EU would be. Scotland looks better than it did two years ago despite the oil drop, particularly as the possibility of oil falling off a cliff was taken into account at the time and was a driving force for the result we got in the end.

Signs are that the oil price collapse has been very damaging, with the economy hovering just above recession. Without the SNP we'd be in that recession, with full control they would have the ability to tailor a fiscal package of support without begging Osbourne and having it watered down and then ignored.

To the few people here who voted leave.

 

What specific pieces of EU legislation were you so against?

 

The ones that protect workers rights, with regards to holiday, maternity leave and health and safety? The ones that make sure the seas don't get over fished? The one that allows you to travel freely across large parts of Europe?

To the few people here who voted leave.

 

What specific pieces of EU legislation were you so against?

 

The ones that protect workers rights, with regards to holiday, maternity leave and health and safety? The ones that make sure the seas don't get over fished? The one that allows you to travel freely across large parts of Europe?

You wont get any response, been trying for weeks to get anyone to give one example.

 

So i will reply on their behalf

 

Immigrants immigrnts immigrants immigrunts grunts grunt grunt grunt

 

I don't work im retired so i dont care

 

Theres plenty more fish in the sea as the old saying used to go. Har di har har im so bloody funny.

 

I never leave dear ol blighty, bournemouth is my idea of a wild holiday, so you noisy bast*rds can piss off to ibiza - if you can afford i now the pound is dropping faster than my knickers after a pint of guinness. Phnar phnar

 

Probably that response i expect :P

Shocking result, and even though I voted for remain I can't say I'm that surprised sadly.

 

The majority of working people in the UK have been continually devastated by the rampant Neo-liberal economics (encouraged by the EU) that since the late 1980s has allowed the rich elite to profit handsomely at the direct expense of them... yet when they went too far and crashed the markets through irresponsible and doubly rampant lending, the public purse had to foot the bill. Essentially socialism for the rich guaranteed and paid-for by the working classes, and yesterday they decided they'd 'had enough'. Ignored by politicians and condemned as racist or xenophobic by the metropolitan intelligentsia of London and elsewhere you just simply can't ignore 17 million people or label them as such.

 

This is a failure for David Cameron, a failure for the remain campaign - hell bent on negative campaigning and threats without listening to genuine concerns, and a failure for the Labour party - who despite campaigning quite clearly for remain - saw a majority of their core support vote against them.

 

This is a sad day, but we need to accept the result - take stock and then demand a general election in 6-9 months so that we can kick out the Conservatives who will now work in the interest of the rich elite to destroy all that those who voted out want to protect, such as public services and workers rights.

 

I literally have no sympathy for people who voted to leave. They get all that they deserve for themselves. Anyone that used this as a protest against the government is a traitor in my eyes. Horrible people, it is sickening.

 

Instead of moaning though, why don't the young actually get off our backsides and make some change? Does anyone know of any mass protests planned, if anything we can make a stand. The over 65s predominately decided our future on the basis of The Sun and World War 2, even though none of these people actually fought in World War 2.

 

As for Boris Johnson, what a c**t. I voted Tory in that last election, but that man deserves to be heckled. Not a chance I am voting for him if he gets power, which thankfully, I tink the Conservative party will do its upmost not to.

I literally have no sympathy for people who voted to leave. They get all that they deserve for themselves. Anyone that used this as a protest against the government is a traitor in my eyes. Horrible people, it is sickening.

Precisely. They should get all the ramifications that they chose. And The Daily Mail and The Sun deserve to completely collapse and disappear from the racks, never to show their hideous headlines again.

I wouldn't exactly used the word traitor, this is not North Korea (yet) Rooney.. more like misguided.

 

17 million is a huge number though, and only 4 million voted UKIP.

This thread really shows how divided the country is and how hard it is for both sides to talk together without being agressive in the end. No matter how strong points can be on both sides, no one is willing to listen to the other side. I don't see how this referendum can turn into something positive, there is something broken that can't be fixed. :cry:

 

Probably the most unbiased and intelligent post in this thread.

 

As a reluctant remain voter I wanted the EU to be reformed but I can see the point of both sides of the debate and tend to support the Marxist view of thing in that so many people have been left behind over the past 40 years by globalisation and its structures - one of them structures being the EU I understand totally why this has happened.

Edited June 24, 20169 yr by Steve201

Precisely. They should get all the ramifications that they chose. And The Daily Mail and The Sun deserve to completely collapse and disappear from the racks, never to show their hideous headlines again.

 

I never showed much sympathy to people off in hard times before, but now I just have no sympathy, especially in no-mark Northern towns. As a Northern boy this makes me sick, but to not even consider that leaving the EU is going to make the poorest harder is just ridiculous. People have essentially voted for their own austerity cuts over the next 3 years. The same people that moan about how they're so hard done by, are likely the same ones that pissed about in school. I went to a school in a deprived area so I see it myself.

 

I wouldn't exactly used the word traitor, this is not North Korea (yet) Rooney.. more like misguided.

 

17 million is a huge number though, and only 4 million voted UKIP.

 

No they're traitors. f*** democracy on a vote like this, it's not like we can change our minds in 5 years time. This is it now, we're gone. People that voted leave had their own reasons of course, but the people I've spoken to believe in all the lies. Muslims, WW2, immigrants, democracy. All absolute hearsay. It is absolutely ridiculous that a large majority of people that voted for this will be dead by the time Article 50 comes in to full effect.

 

Young people should be kicking and screaming.