Riiight - let's throw money at it, probably - that's Red Corbyn's answer to anything...

 

Riiight, let's defund everything, give tax breaks to big business and our rich chums, and fund private schools instead. That's the far right atory answer to everything. To think you once tried to pretend to be left wing like the Tory trolls who don't understand facebook :rofl: It's their favourite "strategy"!

 

Tories and their corporate welfare have decimated the economy and caused the national debt to explode. Gross. Not to be trusted.

Then what does it say about a Labour leader who cannot take a lead in the polls despite this!

 

[Answers not accepted : anything alluding to Big Brother control of the media by the Tories] :rolleyes:

 

But that is the answer. Sorry you don't like the fact that you are brainwashed :(

It's a worrying world when a government isn't spending public money on a better public education system...

 

this pledge is in no way radical.

Agreed.

 

I also love their pledge to ban private schools, nipping amy future Tory private school corruption in the bud! No more Eton culture mwaa :( Vidcapper snd Common Sense found screaming and wailing.

But that is the answer. Sorry you don't like the fact that you are brainwashed :(

 

Says the guy who is in denial of the fact that the kind of socialism he advocates has failed *everywhere* it has been tried... :rolleyes:

Agreed.

 

I also love their pledge to ban private schools, nipping amy future Tory private school corruption in the bud! No more Eton culture mwaa :( Vidcapper snd Common Sense found screaming and wailing.

 

Actually, I attended a local secondary school with slightly iffy reputation, so don't make assumptions when you have no idea of the facts.

Says the guy who is in denial of the fact that the kind of socialism he advocates has failed *everywhere* it has been tried... :rolleyes:

 

Keynesian economics? Worked in Portugal, Iceland, Norway, Sweden? Fixed the economy of Portugal after years of neoliberal economic desteuction and boom and busts.

 

Socialism is the future. Sorry, dinosaur :(

 

It doesn't matter where you went. You support the old Etonian crooks and the Bullington Boy club Tories. You fight tooth and nail for the establishment. Whoops.

Not sure what to make of the fact that no-one replied to my question about how leftwing policies and rightwing ones are just as bad as each other.

I think it's VEEERY telling.

 

Labour:

 

£10 an hour

End the opt out of the European working directive, which is forced into a lot of contracts

End Yory 0 hour contracts and the Tory gig economy

Rent caps

Have 1/10th shares owned by workers

32 hour working week

Scrap universal credit, WHICH WILL FRIGGIN HELP COMMON SENSE

 

Common sense: BuT I LiKe BoJo BeCAuSe He GoT FlOppY HaIR gyer hurr gyer hurr gyerr huurrrr! Politics is football gyer huurrr gywrr hurrr!!!

 

 

 

Nothing wrong with private schools. Now that part of the Labour education plan I'm not so on board with. That can so easily be spun against them and it's not the problem with the education system, current private schools are the high quality parts that parents who pay (not all rich either, for every 1 Johnson there's a thousand, like me in fact, who are normal people) get to access. Fixing the state schools and the apathy that dominates those is the priority.

 

 

 

 

Hoe so? Finland, which has the best education system anywhere, banned them.

 

The right wing bang on about choice, but this same choice only exists for thr well off. Time to ban them.

Not every private school is Eton. Most private schools aren't Eton. And if you banned Eton and its ilk, they're such big companies, they'll just move overseas with their students and god knows what will happen with postcodes and catchment areas.

 

I do hate saying 'we aren't Finland' because I get the idea and it can work anywhere given enough time but this isn't how you approach that goal. The education system in this country is too variable, too much a luck of where you happen to grow up. In order to bring the state schools in line with the private schools to address the inequality, rather than ban private schools, you need to change the standard in state schools and address any and all anti-intellectualism in the country.

 

Private schools exist and are good because our state education system currently fails. The ideal is to get to a point where they are not needed. There are many other ways we can copy Finland that don't turn off the aspirational middle class from ever considering Labour, like actual reform to schooling details. Later start, lack of standardized testing, skilled and appreciated teachers, as ideas.

And it fsils BECAUSE private schools exist and the Tories can ignore education in order to benefit the children of their rich chums at private schools. They can buy their child a far better education and opportunities. That's not right. Ban them and fund education fairly. Dominick Cummingd and Reece Smogg anf the like fund private education and starve state schools because of their class warfare beliefs. End British private schoold anf watch the state education flourish. It's time for equality.

32 hour working week

Scrap universal credit, WHICH WILL FRIGGIN HELP COMMON SENSE

 

Common sense: BuT I LiKe BoJo BeCAuSe He GoT FlOppY HaIR gyer hurr gyer hurr gyerr huurrrr! Politics is football gyer huurrr gywrr hurrr!!!

 

I'm not in a UC area. It's only running in certain areas still as a trial.

 

 

I want to ask Corbyn if he still intends to abolish the WCA,Work Capability Assessment, which incidentally they introduced, and hand the decision as to whether someone's fit to work back to GP's. He did say they would just after becoming leader but nothing since. I'll email him I think.

 

 

The DWP have written to my GP again asking if I'm fit for work yet so must be coming up for an assessment again. She rang me and said not to worry as she'll reply to them and stress that I'm nowhere near being fit yet, especially after my daughter's death last year. She agrees that it's ridiculous constantly re-assessing someone like me who has had depression for 40 years.

Edited September 23, 20195 yr by Common Sense

So why support the Tories?? :lol:

The DWP have written to my GP again asking if I'm fit for work yet so must be coming up for an assessment again. She rang me and said not to worry as she'll reply to them and stress that I'm nowhere near being fit yet, especially after my daughter's death last year. She agrees that it's ridiculous constantly re-assessing someone like me who has had depression for 40 years.

 

The people (lizards) you blindly throw your support behind are doing this to you, you utterly hapless halfwit. :lol:

 

The people (lizards) you blindly throw your support behind are doing this to you, you utterly hapless halfwit. :lol:

 

 

:lol:

So the Tory DWP are giving your GP unnecessary work and threatening you, and this is the third time this has happened. Right.

I've given Labour a lot of (well deserved) stick, but in order to show some fairness, I've had a look at their economic policies suggested by John McDonnell (whom I have a surprising amount of respect for all things considered, compared to Corbyn), as outlined in the below Tweet.

 

@1176100488120602627

 

The bits I agree with:

 

- Bringing in collective bargaining: I am incredibly pro-union (I'm the director of a credit union), so happy with this, as well as empowering the unions more, as long as they don't return fully to their 70s habits.

- Bringing in a £10/hour Living Wages - it's well known that one of the first people to advocate for the Living Wage was Pope Leo XIII in his seminal encyclical "Rerum novarum" (where he eviscerated run-away free market economics as well as the extremes of socialism), so it's good to see the Labour Party getting with the program 120 years after Catholicism did.

- Build 1 million homes: can't disagree with that, although neither can the Tories, for that matter.

 

Things I don't know enough about to comment either way on:

- Reduce working week

- European Working Time Directive

- Scrap Universal Credit (I obviously know the terrible problems with UC, but in no position to comment on various replacements to it).

- Free social care for the elderly: more about how to pay for it than anything, although agree in principle

 

Things I disagree with:

- Banning zero hour contracts: some people are happy working them, so would not want them banned. Tighter regulations and protections for those working them I can get behind.

- 1/10th of shares owned by workers: absolute lunacy that would result in companies shipping off out of the UK.

- Caping rents

 

So very much a mix of stuff I agree with and stuff that I don't

The DWP have written to my GP again asking if I'm fit for work yet so must be coming up for an assessment again. She rang me and said not to worry as she'll reply to them and stress that I'm nowhere near being fit yet, especially after my daughter's death last year. She agrees that it's ridiculous constantly re-assessing someone like me who has had depression for 40 years.

 

And yet you vote Tory? :lol: :lol: