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7 new entries in the top 10 is insane, even for the time it was quite a lot.

 

Of course, it would never happen today thanks to OA/OS and streaming.

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I think the last time we had 7 new entries in the top 10 was that week in 2013 where Miley Cyrus, Eminem, Conor Maynard, Saturdays, John Newman & a couple others maybe entered? Not sure though.

 

I'd say it's still possible in the future but only if a huge artist dropped an album which got insane streaming numbers. Don't forget Bieber managed 9 entries total & 6 new top 40, most on streams alone so 5 year down the line those streams will only be bigger so it's definitely achievable.

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I think the last time we had 7 new entries in the top 10 was that week in 2013 where Miley Cyrus, Eminem, Conor Maynard, Saturdays, John Newman & a couple others maybe entered? Not sure though.

Not quite seven, we had six:

 

01 [NE] Miley - Wrecking Ball

02 [NE] Eminem - Berzerk

03 [01] OneRepublic - Counting Stars

04 [NE] Conor Maynard - R U Crazy

05 [NE] The Saturdays - Disco Love

06 [NE] James Blunt - Bonfire Heart

07 [04] Katy Perry - Roar

08 [03] Jason Derulo - Talk Dirty

09 [NE] John Newman - Cheating

10 [02] The Vamps - Can We Dance

Ah ok not quite then! Forgot poor old James Blunt.

 

There was also that week in late 2014 with 5 (Band Aid 30, Clean Bandit, Olly Murs, David Guetta & Wretch 32) with Rixton just outside too but would have got there on sales only.

 

Looking through charts in the early noughties it was insane how fast the turnover was. I think I'd get annoyed at it tbh it's too much the other way, I'd be invested in a track then as soon as I hear it a few times on the Chart Show it's gone!

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yep it does seem silly for a #1 single to only spend 5-8 weeks in the top 40. Some of my favourite #1s of the early 10s got barely any time on the chart show - poor 'Promises', 'Stay Awake' and 'Loca People' :(

 

the charts as they are now are still at 2008 levels of slowness but hopefully it'll improve soon and we get a reasonable turnover but with the huge hits still having chart runs long enough to justify their hugeness :)

Not quite seven, we had six:

 

01 [NE] Miley - Wrecking Ball

02 [NE] Eminem - Berzerk

03 [01] OneRepublic - Counting Stars

04 [NE] Conor Maynard - R U Crazy

05 [NE] The Saturdays - Disco Love

06 [NE] James Blunt - Bonfire Heart

07 [04] Katy Perry - Roar

08 [03] Jason Derulo - Talk Dirty

09 [NE] John Newman - Cheating

10 [02] The Vamps - Can We Dance

I imagine only Miley and Eminem would have stood a chance of entering the Top 10 out of those new entries had streaming been as big as it is now and OA/OS releases were the norm.

 

Looking through charts in the early noughties it was insane how fast the turnover was. I think I'd get annoyed at it tbh it's too much the other way, I'd be invested in a track then as soon as I hear it a few times on the Chart Show it's gone!

I've always been a fan of longer chart runs (not too long though, going by my personal chart, I like big hits to have had little more than 20 weeks Top 40) so I too would be annoyed by the turnover if I was old enough to follow the charts back then. That said, and this may partly be down to being to young to comprehend time, I remember hearing songs a lot on the TV and radio for much lengthier times than their chart runs would suggest, so it probably wouldn't have been a problem in that sense.

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I imagine only Miley and Eminem would have stood a chance of entering the Top 10 out of those new entries had streaming been as big as it is now and OA/OS releases were the norm.

I wouldn't have minded that actually, the other new entries that week weren't really good enough to be top 10 hits.

 

I'd predict the top 10 that week to have been

 

01 OneRepublic - Counting Stars

02 Miley Cyrus - Wrecking Ball [this was huge, but wouldn't have been #1, though it would've spent more than the 4 weeks top 10 it got officially]

03 Katy Perry - Roar

04 Jason Derulo - Talk Dirty

05 Drake - Hold On, We're Going Home

06 Avicii - Wake Me Up

07 Macklemore & Ryan Lewis - Same Love

08 Avicii - You Make Me

09 Ellie Goulding - Burn

10 Lana Del Rey - Summertime Sadness

 

Berzerk would've peaked weeks ago when the song premiered.

Fragma - Toca’s Miracle (feat. Coco Star)

 

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Date 16th Apr 2000

2 Weeks

Official Chart Run 1-1-2-4-10-11-17-24-33-36-36-39-51-66-72-78-58-52-81-x (20 weeks)

 

 

Fragma, alternatively known as The Fragma Project, are a German trance collective consisting of Ramon Zenker and brothers Dirk and Marco Duderstadt. The trio first came to prominence with the mostly instrumental trance hit ‘Toca Me’ which reached #11 in September 1999, having reached #81 a month earlier on import sales, after impacting dance floors across Europe over the summer.

 

That would’ve been the end of the story, but miraculously in early 2000 a pirated bootleg - by a British producer DJ Vinto - mashing the instrumental track ‘Toca Me’ with the vocals from Coco Star’s 1996 version of ‘I Need A Miracle’ blew up.

 

CoCo Star, born Sue Brice in Hertfordshire, first came to the attention of Jody Wisternoff of Massive Attack in the early 90’s Bristol club scene. She released a string of underground tracks in the mid 90’s culminating in ‘I Need A Miracle’ in 1996,which secured her a major label re-release, with a live launch at Pacha in the summer of 1997, reaching a creditable #39 in a fiercely competitive fourth quarter that November.

 

Faced with huge demand from radio and the public Fragma’s record company put them to work on producing a legit version. Storming to #1 in April 200 on sales of just under 188k, a then first week record for Positiva, ‘Toca’s Miracle’ spent 2 weeks at the summit and shifted over 500k copies, a veritable success by 2000 standards.

 

I wouldn't have minded that actually, the other new entries that week weren't really good enough to be top 10 hits.

 

I'd predict the top 10 that week to have been

 

01 OneRepublic - Counting Stars

02 Miley Cyrus - Wrecking Ball [this was huge, but wouldn't have been #1, though it would've spent more than the 4 weeks top 10 it got officially]

03 Katy Perry - Roar

04 Jason Derulo - Talk Dirty

05 Drake - Hold On, We're Going Home

06 Avicii - Wake Me Up

07 Macklemore & Ryan Lewis - Same Love

08 Avicii - You Make Me

09 Ellie Goulding - Burn

10 Lana Del Rey - Summertime Sadness

 

Berzerk would've peaked weeks ago when the song premiered.

That's one of the things I've liked about streaming: songs have to 'earn' a position in the Top 5, 10, 20 etc. instead of relying on weeks of pre-sales to get them there. There are problems with that, especially as streaming has become bigger, but I do like that about it.

'Toca's Miracle' makes me feel so nostalgic even though I don't recall having an opinion on it when I was little. It's such a classic, possibly the biggest dance track of the year 2000. It has the ability to make you want to rave and sing along in a club but I've found there's also a lot of emotion involved and it has a melancholy feel to it. Now could you imagine a dance track of today ever having that power?

Tocas Miracle - Its really good - Didnt appreciate it enough at the time as I was only 8 and didnt listen to the radio much. Trance with a disco style female vocal. Dance vocalists were much better in the 1990s and 2000s than today and there was more disco influence in thevoxal whereas now it is more modern R&B sadly.

 

DanG surely the chart is much much slower today than it was in 2008?

 

 

Ah ok not quite then! Forgot poor old James Blunt.

 

There was also that week in late 2014 with 5 (Band Aid 30, Clean Bandit, Olly Murs, David Guetta & Wretch 32) with Rixton just outside too but would have got there on sales only.

 

Looking through charts in the early noughties it was insane how fast the turnover was. I think I'd get annoyed at it tbh it's too much the other way, I'd be invested in a track then as soon as I hear it a few times on the Chart Show it's gone!

Omg I remember that 2014 week! The Veronicas entered as well so that was six! :wub: And nearly 7 as Swift was new in 11th!

 

EDIT: Ignore I'm talking crap :lol: My memory fails me!

yep it does seem silly for a #1 single to only spend 5-8 weeks in the top 40. Some of my favourite #1s of the early 10s got barely any time on the chart show - poor 'Promises', 'Stay Awake' and 'Loca People' :(

 

the charts as they are now are still at 2008 levels of slowness but hopefully it'll improve soon and we get a reasonable turnover but with the huge hits still having chart runs long enough to justify their hugeness :)

 

Why were the charts so slow in 2008?

I remember hearing songs a lot on the TV and radio for much lengthier times than their chart runs would suggest

 

I remember hearing Little Love by Lil Love loads in 2005 and it only managed a week in the lower end of the top 40. Also I heard High Again by Thomas Falke loads and that didnt even reach the top 40.

 

I hate slow charts like this year and 2008, it is bad for new music. There will only be a handful of dance tracks to choose from this year to be your favourite one that has been in the charts compared to loads in each year from 2000 to 2007 and loads in each year from 2010 to 2015. Same goes for other genres. My goodness just looking at OCC in 2008,radio playlists must have been even slower to change than today as that wasnt even streaming.

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I've always been a fast run is better kind of person, it takes a very special song to stick with me for more than 8 weeks so a #1 with that run in the top 40 would be no problem. And, as I can attest from whenever I've looked up old charts, it's amazing to see top 10 songs from 2000-2003 (or so) that I had no idea existed, shows so much was being given a chance. I don't imagine there'll be much of that in 2016. Of course the best is when it quickly climbs then peaks then falls away and streaming could move to that but we aren't at that level of turnover at all.

 

Toca's Miracle is a good example of why 2000 was lovely, clearly a big hit but doesn't outstay its welcome either - imagine its run in 2016, probably wouldn't have left the top 10 until the start of July. The song itself is a nice enough mashup (although it's probably relegated its component parts to history).

DJ Vimto! *.*

 

Amazingly Coco Star's twitter handle is @No1tocasmiracle

 

Hanging on to the past much!

 

Oh and here is the original from Coco which was recorded in 1994!

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Don't Give Up and Toca's Miracle, ah the days trance reached #1.

 

I thought Dont Give Up was deep house?

I thought Dont Give Up was deep house?

No, it's trance.

 

Although a bit watered down trance imo.

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