Ukip has more or less become a political non-entity since their failures in this year's General and Local Elections, and it looks like their upcoming leadership election could be the last proverbial nail in their coffin. The list of candidates running for the leadership includes Anne Marie Waters, an anti-Islamic, anti-Catholic, ex-Labour Irish lesbian who has links to the English Defense League and is regarded by most watchers as very much on the far right. Given that her views have been branded too extreme, even for Ukip, and that several MEPs from the party have threatened to leave if she was allowed to run, let alone win the thing, by the end of the year Ukip will either a) cease to be, or b) mutate into something incredibly evil.

 

Almost makes you pine for David Coburn to become leader. Almost.

Dangerous as in he would appeal to voters in the north and eat away at Labour's vote, or dangerous in relation to his political views?

 

I hope this last election proved: the North remembers, no matter the vile Tory propaganda rags and BBTory. It is a Labour heartland for a reason, Nuttalls or whoever else.

I think almost every remaining member is standing in the leadership contest. As it is a First Past The Post contest the winning candidate may get a pretty small share of the vote. That could leave a lot of unhappy members.

Ukip is as dead as farages conscience.

 

As a democratically electable force at any rate.

 

Hooray!

Ukip is as dead as farages conscience.

 

As a democratically electable force at any rate.

 

Hooray!

Farage's conscience has never existed. Sadly, the same cannot be said of UKIP.

I would not agree that UKIP have 'failed' - very much the contrary in fact!

 

They campaigned for, and achieved a vote for Brexit - with *that* done, their purpose has been served, and the reason for their existence has ended. To me, that hardly seems like a failure.

I would not agree that UKIP have 'failed' - very much the contrary in fact!

 

They campaigned for, and achieved a vote for Brexit - with *that* done, their purpose has been served, and the reason for their existence has ended. To me, that hardly seems like a failure.

 

err well that depends on how Brexit turns out, so you are being very premature in your assumption that it will be a happy ending. I suggest they will be seen as a bunch of liars who made promises they couldn't keep and plunged the country into chaos. Let's wait and see what judgement history makes, eh....?

They are charlatans, crooks and racists. That they ever got to achieve their aim is a damning indictment of our overly right wing media

Henry Bolton has been elected the new leader of UKIP. Given that even I've never heard of him, it's fair to say he's not going to make an impact (although I understand he's a former Lib Dem election candidate & ran for the Police & Crime Commissioner role for Ukip, which is the political equivalent of a participation trophy). Ukip will be dead by Christmas under his leadership, which I guess is better than what would have happened if Anne Marie had been elected, which would have led to a resurgence of Ukip, albeit turning it into something really, incredibly nasty and horrific.

You seem to be assuming that this chap will still be leader by Christmas.

I love that they are having their party conference in Torquay, or TorBADOS as the locals call it. All booked in at Fawlty Towers.

err well that depends on how Brexit turns out, so you are being very premature in your assumption that it will be a happy ending. I suggest they will be seen as a bunch of liars who made promises they couldn't keep and plunged the country into chaos. Let's wait and see what judgement history makes, eh....?

 

1. I've never claimed that Brexit will be a guaranteed success, although many of its opponents are only too willing to make the opposite claim, with no more evidence than I have.

 

2. As for UKIP achieving their purpose, it is surely undeniable that they have done so, for better or worse.

1. I've never claimed that Brexit will be a guaranteed success, although many of its opponents are only too willing to make the opposite claim, with no more evidence than I have.

 

2. As for UKIP achieving their purpose, it is surely undeniable that they have done so, for better or worse.

 

1. Lots of evidence, none of it looking positive. All those trade deals with the USA and being able to support British industries - these will be the same deals that the USA is hiking 200% taxes on (airplane parts) because they claim unfair competition. Job losses, and we still the EU available to lay some heavy-duty elbowing on our behalf - soon we won't even have that and the USA will be able to lean very heavily on us.

 

As I keep saying though, happy to hear examples to the contrary in the right thread.

 

2. Yes, that's true.

 

3. UKIP and unrelated to the quote. Totally shocked to hear the new leader is an ex-army, ex-policeman. Who couldve predicted?! The bit about being a Libdem candidate though, surely that is fake news! Wishy washy centre-ground one minute, next right-wing. Obviously a man of long-held principles. Given the leaflets reported at the conference comparing gay lifestyle to that of Hitler and the Yorkshire Ripper, can I just say I don't recall either of them caring for ailing parents and UKIP can just go f*** themselves? If anyone is like Hitler......

There's a surprising number of voters who were Lib Dem up to 2010 and have flirted with UKIP since. A number of council seats in Sheffield have gone from one to the other, sometimes via Labour, and one of the UKIP councillors is an ex Lib Dem.

 

Coincidentally, the entire group on the council said that they would resign from the party if Anne Marie Waters had won yesterday. There was some speculation that they may join another Europhobic party which is active in the region - which goes by the name of the Social Democratic Party.

 

Strange world.

Its been a while but as farage is moaning about his wife leaving him over brexit - perhaps the racism and slagging off people like her was just being unreasonable to married eu citizens living in the uk?

 

And of being skint - which of us wouldnt be skint on a weekly eu salary and pension of 100k or so? Barely enough to buy a house every month the poor love.

 

And of fearing being attacked every time he goes out - i had no idea us snowflakes were so easily incited to violence, but live and learn. At least he understands how non whites and gay people feel these days when they go out....

 

I will however repeat the words of sympathy he gave to the family of murdered jo cox, its only fair:

 

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Talking of historic political nutters, i wish i was this eloquent...

 

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Perhaps the fact that Farage was shagging his assistant played a part as well.

Its been a while but as farage is moaning about his wife leaving him over brexit - perhaps the racism and slagging off people like her was just being unreasonable to married eu citizens living in the uk?

 

And of being skint - which of us wouldnt be skint on a weekly eu salary and pension of 100k or so? Barely enough to buy a house every month the poor love.

 

My sarcasm detector just exploded. :w00t:

 

And of fearing being attacked every time he goes out - i had no idea us snowflakes were so easily incited to violence, but live and learn. At least he understands how non whites and gay people feel these days when they go out....

How could potential attackers even tell someone was gay? :unsure: In any case, I suspect you have exaggerated the dangers somewhat - a rather Daily Mail tactic, don't you think? :teresa:

 

I will however repeat the words of sympathy he gave to the family of murdered jo cox, its only fair:

 

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You put nothing there. :huh:

 

And I thought the nonchalant response to the election of Ukip's new leader (whose name I can't remember) would have spelled the end for this thread (and Ukip, electorally), but well played Farage, the gift that just keeps giving. Although it is a gift that you'd rather not receive, like credit cards in your name that you never ordered that get sent to your address anyway.

You put nothing there. :huh:

That's the point. He quoted Farage's words of sympathy in full, complete with translations into every European language.

And I thought the nonchalant response to the election of Ukip's new leader (whose name I can't remember) would have spelled the end for this thread (and Ukip, electorally), but well played Farage, the gift that just keeps giving. Although it is a gift that you'd rather not receive, like credit cards in your name that you never ordered that get sent to your address anyway.

I suspect the average UKIP member can't remember the leader's name either :lol: