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First they come for the blacks, the Muslims, the Mexicans, the very poor, and then they come for the gays...

 

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/09/27/trump...97b1b4a01a12704

 

People dying in puerto rico, and the evil racist bigot in charge of the country is golfing for the thousandth time mouthing off about lazy puertoricans

 

It's going to take years to set right the damage done once this evil moron is impeached.

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ISTM no POTUS has attracted such ire since Abe Lincoln in the Southern States.

 

 

What a bizarre comparison.

 

At least I can understand why the Confederate States would hate Lincoln, but ISTM Trump is often criticised simply because he rubs 'liberals' up the wrong way, rather than for anything he's actually done? :unsure:

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At least I can understand why the Confederate States would hate Lincoln, but ISTM Trump is often criticised simply because he rubs 'liberals' up the wrong way, rather than for anything he's actually done? :unsure:

 

No. it's because he's EVIL. He's just ended health insurance for 9 million children. he's done nothing to help Peurto Rico (they have hundreds of billions-worth of troops available) which is an American territory. Peopel are and will be dying. He has the power to prevent it and chooses to play golf instead.

 

If you think having concerns for the welfare of children's lives is just "rubbing liberals up the wrong way" then your morals are warped or you are misinformed bigstylee and there is no point discussing anything further with you because you are incapbale of seeing what is morally wrong and criticising it.

 

if you are just unaware, then fine, now you are informed.

He's absolutely nuts and unbefitting of the presidenxy, as we all said all those months ago.

 

You cannot hire the world's biggest fat cat and expect him to become a Robin Hood overnight!!

All Men Are Created Equal. In theory only in the country supposedly usually leader of the free world....

 

Pink News on UN motion vote:

 

"It called for the death penalty to be banned “as a as a sanction for specific forms of conduct, such as apostasy, blasphemy, adultery and consensual same-sex relations”, as well as criticising its use on minors, mentally ill people and pregnant women.

 

The UN motion marks the first time the Human Rights Council has condemned the death penalty for gay people.

Of the 47 countries on the Human Rights Council, 27 voted in favour while 13 states voted against.

 

The United States voted against the motion, alongside Botswana, Burundi, Egypt, Ethiopia, Bangladesh, China, India, Iraq, Japan, Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates."

 

 

All Men Are Created Equal. In theory only in the country supposedly usually leader of the free world....

 

Pink News on UN motion vote:

 

"It called for the death penalty to be banned “as a as a sanction for specific forms of conduct, such as apostasy, blasphemy, adultery and consensual same-sex relations”, as well as criticising its use on minors, mentally ill people and pregnant women.

 

The UN motion marks the first time the Human Rights Council has condemned the death penalty for gay people.

Of the 47 countries on the Human Rights Council, 27 voted in favour while 13 states voted against.

 

The United States voted against the motion, alongside Botswana, Burundi, Egypt, Ethiopia, Bangladesh, China, India, Iraq, Japan, Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates."

 

My scepticism meter started ringing when I saw that Japan was on the list of countries that voted against it, as they didn't strike me as the sort of country that would vote against a motion condemning such treatment of gays, so after looking further it seems that there were other parts to the resolution - specifically that it condemns the death penalty in all cases, and calls on all countries to adopt protocols aimed at abolishing the death penalty. Both Japan and the USA are two of the countries that use the death penalty more regularly than others, so you could understand why they would not defend the resolution (the US voted against similar resolutions sans specifically mentioning LGBTs in the past), but as there was no option to partially support a bill, it makes it look like the USA are in support of this treatment of gays, even though that isn't the part of the resolution that they have objected to.

 

I've made my stance on the death penalty rather clear on this site in the past few years, so I wish that the US would have supported the resolution, but the way their vote's been portrayed by some is quite inaccurate. I have a dislike for these "trick resolutions" that paints legislators in a more nefarious just because they cannot vote on a certain part of a bill or resolution for perfectly legitimate reasons.

Aaaaah, thanks for that extra information! It did seem pretty sinister to see the US & Japan on that list because the rest are pretty much exactly the countries I'd have anticipated would vote against this resolution due to the status of LGBT rights in vast swathes of Africa and Asia.
Thanks for the additional info B-B. I also thought it odd about Japan. That said, trump's USA is attempting to make it legal to discriminate against gays anyway in some areas of life, so they deserve to be named and shamed. They also kill more of their own citizens (as individuals) than anyone else so hardly a shock they would vote against a sane resolution, however it's worded.
The anti LGBT discrimination is a Republican problem in general, it's far from unique to Trump... there's a guy coming to be elected to the Senate in Alabama who believes homosexual activity should be illegal (and this is someone who Trump DIDN'T endorse!)
The anti LGBT discrimination is a Republican problem in general, it's far from unique to Trump... there's a guy coming to be elected to the Senate in Alabama who believes homosexual activity should be illegal (and this is someone who Trump DIDN'T endorse!)

 

But you have to remember that religion still plays a significant role in the US, especially in the more rural areas.

But you have to remember that religion still plays a significant role in the US, especially in the more rural areas.

And you have to remember not to make excuses for inexcusable behaviour.

The anti LGBT discrimination is a Republican problem in general, it's far from unique to Trump... there's a guy coming to be elected to the Senate in Alabama who believes homosexual activity should be illegal (and this is someone who Trump DIDN'T endorse!)

Sarah Palin endorsed him though.

And you have to remember not to make excuses for inexcusable behaviour.

 

I wasn't excusing it, merely explaining it,

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OK, word is that charges have been filed. No details yet but I'm hoping that my initial prediction in the early part of the year that Trump was a traitor who would be gone by Xmas can still come true. Fingers-crossed!

 

(Obviously unlikely, watergate was a mild case of bullying and breaking-in and tape-recording in comparison and that took 2 years to sort, but hey, got to be optimistic!)

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