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What I hate is how some people have this sort of "if you're not dancing to it, you don't care what song is on" attitude. If you're not bothered about what song is on, why are you even listening to music anyway?

 

Having said that, they're not really listening to music, they're just hearing it. There's a big difference between the two.

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I totally see what Jack means. Ed is forced down the throats as some hugely credible artist, it's quite inescapable and a lot of people I know that know pretty much nothing about music automatically 'love' Ed Sheeran. That's not to say he doesn't have some good music, but he really is pushed as 'real music', when a lot of people who loved him are the same people who'd turn their noses up at out and out pop - not knowing that Ed uses a lot of the same co-writers and producers as those artists.

You said it better than I could have :lol:

I do get that, explaining it that way is a good way to put it. I love Ed LOADS but a lot of people I know irl who don't really listen to a wide range of music do act like he's the only person ever to write and produce his own music and that makes him so far above anyone else. I enjoy Ed's music for what it is, not becasue he's a "real talent" and so much above out and out the same old pop.
it's what they're trying to do will lots of UK artists recently, Ed, Adele, George Ezra, James Bay, but actually none of them write their own songs, they always co-write with others, an even with teams...

And what's the problem with co-writing? (Just a general question, not trying to talk down to you haha)

 

Tbh, as long as the song is good, I don't really care if the artist has written it or not. It's such a snobby way to view things, imo. Obviously it's a bonus if I know it's written by that artist, but if it's not and it's a jam, I don't really hold it against them as it isn't really fair.

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And what's the problem with co-writing? (Just a general question, not trying to talk down to you haha)

 

Tbh, as long as the song is good, I don't really care if the artist has written it or not. It's such a snobby way to view things, imo. Obviously it's a bonus if I know it's written by that artist, but if it's not and it's a jam, I don't really hold it against them as it isn't really fair.

 

Has anyone mentioned dislike of co-writing?

As then it is real emotion expressed by the artist. If not, they become somgbirds, or even as low as the Westlife coverband puppet level.

for me personally it's different

writing your songs on your own

or working with those teams and adding a comma here, a comma there

 

of course a good song is a good song and a good artist is a good artist

but for me a real singer songwriter does not need a team to work with

 

Has anyone mentioned dislike of co-writing?
His post mentioned that they didn't write all their stuff and co-write their stuff instead. Which there isn't anything wrong with, is all I was suggesting :lol:

 

I get what you mean though Bjork!

I honestly couldn't give a flying Judi Dench who writes the song, if it's a good song it's a good song!
Solo Dance top 10 is very impressive, if it wasn't for Ed Sheeran Martin would be getting a top 20 placing this week - hopefully it'll get there in future though. Just shows how much it pays to have a 59p reduction, he's over doubled in sales since the reduction meaning not only is his chart position improved, he's earning more £££ :D
Solo Dance top 10 is very impressive, if it wasn't for Ed Sheeran Martin would be getting a top 20 placing this week - hopefully it'll get there in future though. Just shows how much it pays to have a 59p reduction, he's over doubled in sales since the reduction meaning not only is his chart position improved, he's earning more £££ :D

Hope so - one of my favourites of the year so far

Well little mox and 1 direction are party bands and 0 clue how to write songs. They sit in song writing teams and add comas or change a word here or there with no input to the melody either. That type of 'co write' or Beyonce's even more egregious form of accepting aongs if she can have her names on the credits -and no song writer is refusing that- is what should be looked down upon.
Well little mix and 1 direction are party bands and have 0 clue how to write songs. They sit in song writing teams and add commas here or there or change a word with no input to the melody either. That type of 'co write' - or Beyonce's even more egregious form of accepting songs if she can have her names on the credits - and no song writer is refusing that- is what should be looked down upon.

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Well little mox and 1 direction are party bands and 0 clue how to write songs. They sit in song writing teams and add comas or change a word here or there with no input to the melody either. That type of 'co write' or Beyonce's even more egregious form of accepting aongs if she can have her names on the credits -and no song writer is refusing that- is what should be looked down upon.
I really wish a mod would "co-write" your posts to help them make sense...
I thought most solo artists co-wrote. Often it just means that the artist wrote a song and then someone else looked at it and made some suggestions.
The bigger they get the less chance thwy have of that happening, as the record company gets a huge vested interest in them doing well. Then come the overproduced albums - chexk out Coldplay after their 4th.
Shape of You just got performed on The Voice -_-
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