Simon has said explicitly that the XF contestants aren't entertaining enough on their own and they need to bring in established talent to goose the ratings.

 

Really? Where? Awkward as it basically admits he has no faith in the show.

 

Last year was one of the worst years I can EVER remember in terms of guest performers. Some real odd choices, which were pretty bizarre.

 

Surely this year they will go for the big names. You would expect Simon to swallow his ego slightly and go for Liam Payne, Niall Horan and Harry Styles. Certainly I recall an interview where one of the producers wanted the latter for sure. Little Mix, Taylor Swift, Ed Sheeran all seem sure fire bets. Justin Bieber perhaps with Friends? P!nk, Louis Tomlinson, Fifth Harmony are probably shoe-ins at some point as well.

Jessie J is gearing up for another album, so she may perform too.

 

 

PRETTYMUCH are a good shout, not so well known (yet) but they are signed to Syco and surely Simon won't overlook a chance as good as this to launch them properly.

Surely Ed will perform to help him into a final Q4 single?

I think a lot of A-list acts might snob X Factor for the new BBC1 music show. The X Factor is kind of a cheesy brand at this point although it is still good exposure.

Edited September 12, 20177 yr by André

Not that X factor isn't a cheesy brand but the new show is the joe public trying to be an artist (if not better than them) hence the title EVEN BETTER THAN THE REAL THING (which basically sounds like an updated stars in their eyes the basic definition of cheesy) and it's hosted by paddy McGuiness how can it not be cheesy :lol:

Edited September 13, 20177 yr by 777666jason

Not that X factor isn't a cheesy brand but the new show is the joe public trying to be an artist (if not better than them) hence the title EVEN BETTER THAN THE REAL THING (which basically sounds like an updated stars in their eyes the basic definition of cheesy) and it's hosted by paddy McGuiness how can it not be cheesy :lol:

Nah, that's not the BBC1 music show I am talking about. They're doing a TOTP-style show presented by Greg James which will be on primetime later this year for 6 weeks.

I don't think it's that they're deliberately not choosing big performers due to pride, it feels more likely they can't book them, whether that's due to cost, or just due to people not wanting to appear on a show that's no longer the biggest thing on British TV and doesn't have the reputation it used to.

 

Practically alll of its recent non-final bookings have been either its own alumni or people that are less well known, purely pop, and can't really turn down any promo (e.g. Shawn Mendes, Craig David, Emeli Sande after three years off, Nathan Sykes).

 

Last year's biggest bookings were Bruno Mars, Lady Gaga after a period of downturn, and I guess Clean Bandit. Then we had a lot of random ones like Madness, Busted (twice), Sister Sledge and the casts of two musicals. Plus show alumni including Honey G, Louis Tomlinson, James Arthur, Olly, Scherzinger, Louisa Johnson and Little Mix (twice).

Edited September 13, 20177 yr by StillJupiter

I don't think it's that they're deliberately not choosing big performers due to pride, it feels more likely they can't book them, whether that's due to cost, or just due to people not wanting to appear on a show that's no longer the biggest thing on British TV and doesn't have the reputation it used to.

 

Practically alll of its recent non-final bookings have been either its own alumni or people that are less well known, purely pop, and can't really turn down any promo (e.g. Shawn Mendes, Craig David, Emeli Sande after three years off, Nathan Sykes).

 

Last year's biggest bookings were Bruno Mars, Lady Gaga after a period of downturn, and I guess Clean Bandit. Then we had a lot of random ones like Madness, Busted (twice), Sister Sledge and the casts of two musicals. Plus show alumni including Honey G, Louis Tomlinson, James Arthur, Olly, Scherzinger, Louisa Johnson and Little Mix (twice).

 

Eh, X-factor is still one of the biggest promotional platforms for music. James Arthur/Little Mix/Olly are big in their own right so would've gotten a slot even if they weren't alumini. Craig David/Emeli are pretty good bookings as is Shawn Mendes tbh. Bruno/Lady Gaga/Clean Bandit were great bookings too.

 

I think part of the problem last year was there weren't many big releases/album campains in Q4. During the X-factor's peak, there were many big names releasing at the time of the show alumini and non alumini (Lady Gaga/Beyonce/Rihanna/Florence + The Machines/Coldplay/Michael Buble/JLS/1D/Leona/Jessie J/Katy Perry/Bruno Mars/Black Eyed Peas/Justin Beiber/Whitney houston/Robbie Williams/Alicia Keys/Susan Boyle/Sharkia etc etc).

 

I do realise some of those names today (JLS/Leona/Susan Boyle) won't generate much buzz around the show, but during their peak they would've.

 

This year there seems to be a lot of potential with many major artists gearing up for releases or already in an album cycle it seems (Taylor Swift, Ed Sheeran, Katy Perry, rumours that Rihanna may be releasing an album in Q4, P!nk, Kelly Clarkson, maybe Little Mix, Jessie J, Bruno Mars, The Script, Rag'N'Bone Man, Dua Lipa, rumours that Eminem is releasing, Harry/Nial/Liam/Louis from 1D etc)!

I really want Katy to come and perform because it'd save her album. The UK public really react to her performances, even when they're dodgy and it's odd that the album has had no promotion here, I think it's part of the reason the album has underperformed so much. Alas, I think touring commitments put her out of the running.

Bruno Mars won't be releasing he released last year!

Do we know when these start yet?

Bruno Mars won't be releasing he released last year!

 

he's releasing another single from this album, so may perform that?

Do we know when these start yet?

The final is on 2/3 December and apparently there are six weeks of live shows, so 28/29 October?

Shania Twain please.

The final is on 2/3 December and apparently there are six weeks of live shows, so 28/29 October?

Only six weeks of live shows? Isn't that much less than previous series? And also the final seems to be much earlier this year?

They're deliberately doing less live shows due to falling ratings. Some might say the end of X Factor is nigh.

They're deliberately doing less live shows due to falling ratings. Some might say the end of X Factor is nigh.

Dermot's signed up for a few more years apparently so I doubt that's the case :heehee:

 

(its ratings aren't as good as they used to be but are still solid, certainly at the audition stages!)

X Factor won't be axed yet. It's still getting 6m overnight which is quite profitable. Channel 4 recently said 3m would be break even figure for Bake Off which has been much more expensive so they'll still be making a decent profit on it even if it's not the huge force it once was!