I actually do think Song For Her would have worked how it was intended...as a TV show theme song. In that sense, I think the song completely understands the assignment. I can imagine that chorus playing during the show's intro video...with the contestants dancing around...and the girls striking sassy poses or whatever. I figure we would have gone in and out of commercials with a quick "This is a song for her!" clip.

 

I think there's a kernel of an idea that could have worked within the GEM proposal. It was a doomed plan to try to use a show to cast women to tour with Mel, Geri, and Emma. As much as they wanted to say "no one's getting replaced!"...replacing VB and Mel C (even for a singular tour) was literally what they were doing for the project.

 

However...I do think a solid show could have been made out of Mel, Geri, and Emma playing hosts/mentors to a group of moms vying for a recording contract. Make it available to all moms...but with an emphasis on ones in their 30s/40s and up who perhaps thought their moment had passed them by. Have the girls do surprise appearances at the homes of each contestant. Leave elimination strictly to audience votes...so the girls themselves can be strictly supportive mentors. Does that totally defeat their original intent of doing a show so the three piece could go on tour? Yes. But. Whatever. That's my belated pitch.

 

Last thought. I honestly am surprised no one picked up the show's original concept. Even if it would have been damaging to the Spice brand...I figure it likely would have been a ratings success for a network.

I actually do think Song For Her would have worked how it was intended...as a TV show theme song. In that sense, I think the song completely understands the assignment. I can imagine that chorus playing during the show's intro video...with the contestants dancing around...and the girls striking sassy poses or whatever. I figure we would have gone in and out of commercials with a quick "This is a song for her!" clip.

 

I think there's a kernel of an idea that could have worked within the GEM proposal. It was a doomed plan to try to use a show to cast women to tour with Mel, Geri, and Emma. As much as they wanted to say "no one's getting replaced!"...replacing VB and Mel C (even for a singular tour) was literally what they were doing for the project.

 

However...I do think a solid show could have been made out of Mel, Geri, and Emma playing hosts/mentors to a group of moms vying for a recording contract. Make it available to all moms...but with an emphasis on ones in their 30s/40s and up who perhaps thought their moment had passed them by. Have the girls do surprise appearances at the homes of each contestant. Leave elimination strictly to audience votes...so the girls themselves can be strictly supportive mentors. Does that totally defeat their original intent of doing a show so the three piece could go on tour? Yes. But. Whatever. That's my belated pitch.

 

Last thought. I honestly am surprised no one picked up the show's original concept. Even if it would have been damaging to the Spice brand...I figure it likely would have been a ratings success for a network.

 

It was doomed as a project because it literally was a punch in the face to the general idea of the Spice Girls and their message. Even if the emphasis was *not* to replace Mel C and Victoria, that is how it would have been perceived as that was technically the point of the show even if temporarily.

 

It did have a stench of 'well they didnt want to do it so we replaced them' and that just isnt very 'girl power' at all.

The whole GEM project was a terrible idea... Song For Her was outdated upon arrival.

I actually do think Song For Her would have worked how it was intended...as a TV show theme song. In that sense, I think the song completely understands the assignment. I can imagine that chorus playing during the show's intro video...with the contestants dancing around...and the girls striking sassy poses or whatever. I figure we would have gone in and out of commercials with a quick "This is a song for her!" clip.

 

I think there's a kernel of an idea that could have worked within the GEM proposal. It was a doomed plan to try to use a show to cast women to tour with Mel, Geri, and Emma. As much as they wanted to say "no one's getting replaced!"...replacing VB and Mel C (even for a singular tour) was literally what they were doing for the project.

 

However...I do think a solid show could have been made out of Mel, Geri, and Emma playing hosts/mentors to a group of moms vying for a recording contract. Make it available to all moms...but with an emphasis on ones in their 30s/40s and up who perhaps thought their moment had passed them by. Have the girls do surprise appearances at the homes of each contestant. Leave elimination strictly to audience votes...so the girls themselves can be strictly supportive mentors. Does that totally defeat their original intent of doing a show so the three piece could go on tour? Yes. But. Whatever. That's my belated pitch.

 

Last thought. I honestly am surprised no one picked up the show's original concept. Even if it would have been damaging to the Spice brand...I figure it likely would have been a ratings success for a network.

 

 

I can see your idea and where you are coming from but personally I hate it! Lol

 

I’ll always thank Mel for not doing this car crash project, my friend is a radio DJ and he said that basically Mel only wanted to tour but the others were pushing for the X Factor style show to find a replacement Posh Spice for the tour, she refused to participate in replacing Victoria and walked away from the whole tour due to it. That’s why we got the 4 piece tour a few years on instead as their show idea was scrapped.

It’s a bit crazy that three of them felt that it was a worthwhile endeavour to try and find a new fifth member, rather than just go on as a four. I can’t imagine any outcome other than that being a total disaster. A new member would have felt like an imposter even with an introduction via a reality show. So honestly thank goodness for Melanie C at that moment in time!

It’s a bit crazy that three of them felt that it was a worthwhile endeavour to try and find a new fifth member, rather than just go on as a four. I can’t imagine any outcome other than that being a total disaster. A new member would have felt like an imposter even with an introduction via a reality show. So honestly thank goodness for Melanie C at that moment in time!

 

 

I also think it would have a huge contradiction when they said they would never replace Geri back in the day to then do it with Victoria! Thank god for Melanie indeed, I think it helped she was closest to Victoria out of the lot of them at this point.

Personally, I never really bought the idea and it sounds so anti-Spice that it makes me feel like maybe people got the wrong idea? There is no way a 'replacement' would have ever worked with the Spice Girls.

 

Could it have been like the Little Mix/BBC show where they were fishing for a new act that would be the opening act of a new tour, but the press/punters took that as a 'replacement' show? It wouldnt surprise me to be honest.

 

The whole Mel C's take on this during the VoM promo leads me to believe she just didnt want to do the reunion as a four in respect to Victoria, but as far as I know there was never a comment or allusion to the reality show, right?

Personally, I never really bought the idea and it sounds so anti-Spice that it makes me feel like maybe people got the wrong idea? There is no way a 'replacement' would have ever worked with the Spice Girls.

 

Could it have been like the Little Mix/BBC show where they were fishing for a new act that would be the opening act of a new tour, but the press/punters took that as a 'replacement' show? It wouldnt surprise me to be honest.

 

The whole Mel C's take on this during the VoM promo leads me to believe she just didnt want to do the reunion as a four in respect to Victoria, but as far as I know there was never a comment or allusion to the reality show, right?

 

 

Straight from the horses (mean to call Mel a horse but you get me) mouth according to my radio DJ friend. Apparently it's why her and Emma fell out a bit because she was insisting she wouldn't do it and wanted Emma to back her up but she backed up Geri and Mel B so Melanie C walked away from the whole thing just before they were due to sign contracts for the tour. She was talking to her team and him about it in the dressing room before going on air, and she was really pissed off with Emma apparently.

 

The whole five or nothing was just the easiest way to explain it away without bad mouthing them in the media.

Edited August 22, 20222 yr by spiceboy

Straight from the horses (mean to call Mel a horse but you get me) mouth according to my radio DJ friend. Apparently it's why her and Emma fell out a bit because she was insisting she wouldn't do it and wanted Emma to back her up but she backed up Geri and Mel B so Melanie C walked away from the whole thing just before they were due to sign contracts for the tour. She was talking to her team and him about it in the dressing room before going on air, and she was really pissed off with Emma apparently.

 

The whole five or nothing was just the easiest way to explain it away without bad mouthing them in the media.

 

Thank you for this and wow that is really sad, specially as Emma is so close to Victoria and had been so close to Mel till then too. Obviously people change their minds, but to me this will always be the most baffling of 'eras' as it seemed pretty awful overall for everyone involved, and totally forced...

 

I remember at the time the tour sounded just UK-based and small arenas, right?

 

I'm very glad they made ammends though.

Thank you for this and wow that is really sad, specially as Emma is so close to Victoria and had been so close to Mel till then too. Obviously people change their minds, but to me this will always be the most baffling of 'eras' as it seemed pretty awful overall for everyone involved, and totally forced...

 

I remember at the time the tour sounded just UK-based and small arenas, right?

 

I'm very glad they made ammends though.

 

 

I have no idea whether it was arenas or what at that point but I do know there was initially no other things in the pipeline just a tour. The other ideas came after Victoria refused to be a part of it although initially it was agreed for a four piece tour, I think the show was thought to be done to help promote it as they were unaware of what the demand would be like. Melanie C hated the idea and refused to do it the others kept pressuring her with it so she walked away from the whole thing.

 

It all worked out perfectly in the end with 2019 though!

Edited August 22, 20222 yr by spiceboy

Sadly Mel C and Emma's relationship has never truly recovered from the whole GEM era too. They are friends and respectful but it isn't the friendship it was.

 

There have been a lot of near misses though. A tour was also in the works in 2014 but it was felt waiting till the anniversary in 2016 would be better. I think that is why Emma sided with Geri and Mel B as in the back of her mind I'm sure the feeling was if we miss the boat in 2016 that is it so let's go for it t.v show and all.

 

The big issue with 2012-2018 was could they be successful without Victoria and it always brought tension behind the scenes. What would/could they do that was big and didn't look desparate or not do well. Mel C was always the cautious one, Geri and Mel B would do anything and Emma sat in the middle.

 

Thankfully that tension is gone now and it is more Victoria be a part if you want but her being in or out wont be the deciding factor as they can be successful as a 4. Also Mel C is a much different person now, the Mel C of 2016 wouldn't be doing an autobiography, dancing with the stars or coinmaster commercials. I think the Mel C of today would be much more open to a tv show to find a woman to do one song a night with them on a tour, though they know now it isn't needed anyway.

^ I think you are wrong.

 

Melanie has always said that she'll write an autobiography one day. Is 28 years in the music industry not enough time?

 

Secondly, she did Superstar and Asia's Got Talent and wasn't against doing Strictly (given the right offer). How is it different to doing Dancing with the Stars?

 

Thirdly, doing a Tesco advert is hardly more "prestigious" than a Coinmaster one.

Mel C has said she would write an autobiography when she is old (like 60+) as she wanted it to be truthful. This one wont be properly truthful as she isn't going to delve into the stuff like being discussed in this topic now when Spice Girls projects and cash ins are still happening. Mel C is just doing this now as a nice cheque.

 

Being a talent show judge is very different to being on Dancing with the stars. She has also been very negative about going on Strictly saying the pay ir rubbish and the tabloids are awful when doing it.

 

Why am I bothering to reply. You know Mel C is more likely to do these type of C-list celeb projects now whether you admit it or not.

^ I think you are wrong.

 

Melanie has always said that she'll write an autobiography one day. Is 28 years in the music industry not enough time?

 

Secondly, she did Superstar and Asia's Got Talent and wasn't against doing Strictly (given the right offer). How is it different to doing Dancing with the Stars?

 

Thirdly, doing a Tesco advert is hardly more "prestigious" than a Coinmaster one.

Maybe not prestigious, and I can only speak from my perspective, but those Tesco adverts seemed to be quite well received in the UK and didn't come across as being a tacky endeavour. Mainly for being such a hugely known supermarket, so it didn't seem beneath them to be involved with them for a major Christmas advertising campaign. Plus it seems that they were widely regarded as being amusing adverts. Whereas Coinmaster... well I think the UK perception would be that a games app is a level down from involvement with a British supermarket.

 

As for Melanie C, she did indeed do some judging panel shows in the 2010s, but what we do know about her from those years is that she was extremely cautious about "the legacy" of the Spice Girls. She said countless times that she thought the Olympics was the peak thing they would ever do, in the sense that if they couldn't top it, why do anything more? So I guess the idea of a Spice Girls reality show came across horribly to her. How would she feel about it now? Perhaps more open, depending on the concept? Obviously these are just my feelings, I wouldn't ever claim I know exactly what Melanie C would or wouldn't do. Just speculation!

Why am I bothering to reply.

Because this is a discussion board and your opinion isn't necessarily the truth.

 

We know the pay on DWTS is totally different to SCD. The American show is also not on the radar of the British tabloids.

 

Given the Covid circumstances of 2020-2021, which didn't allow her to play live, I'm glad Melanie used her time wisely and decided to do different projects, instead of sitting at home waiting & doing nothing.

Imagine telling the Mel C of 2016 she would be doing 4 piece adverts for an online gaming app. Not as a bonus to some other big project like a tour but just for a cheque. Heck imagine telling her she would happily go by Mel C and have it on her twitter bio not just Melanie C or her autobiography would be called the Sporty one for the US market.

Imagine telling the Mel C of 2016 she would be doing 4 piece adverts for an online gaming app. Not as a bonus to some other big project like a tour but just for a cheque. Heck imagine telling her she would happily go by Mel C and have it on her twitter bio not just Melanie C or her autobiography would be called the Sporty one for the US market.

 

 

I agree with this, Melanie is clearly a lot more open to doing things now than she was in 2016 her new management team have done wonders for that plus I think she has also relaxed in herself.

 

She has been very open about struggling with mental health and I think she has always struggled with how others perceive her (and then frustrated at herself for feeling like that) wheres she seems to have finally found some kind of inner acceptance of herself which has made her more open to embracing opportunities, plus she has always been fairly smart and I am sure she knows if she wants to continue being a solo acts on an independent label then she needs to get the money in elsewhere as she openly admits music doesn't make her any money anymore.

 

I am still not convinced she would do a reality show to "replace" posh or find another Spice Girl though, I think she quite rightly knew it would go down like a lead balloon and they would be ripped apart for it you can just see the headlines "POSH REPLACED" "FRIENDSHIP NEVER ENDS UNLESS ITS WITH POSH" "SPICE GIRLS ON HUNT TO FIND SINGER TO REPLACE THE ONE WHO DOESN'T SING" etc, then she has maintained a close relationship with Victoria for many years and she said herself about Victoria not attending the show that she found it quite difficult to watch the girls without her and that it was just too hard for her to attend. I don't thinks he would disrespect her like that because it is incredibly disrespectful especially when they never replaced Geri.

 

 

If what spiceboy says is true (I mean, if the source told the truth), I’d love to see some people here put the same energy to show disappointment the same way they do whenever Melanie C does something they don’t like.

 

I’ll try to find the interview, but this is not the first time Mel has taken the blame instead of bad mouthing or calling out her friends. In that interview she basically states that whenever a reunion failed to happen, she was considered the only stumbling block, but there were actually others that were also against or not available- they simply played the “safe card” and never make it public.

 

Now - if that replacement thing is true, this shows some of them are just not as genuine as they want to appear. I really do hope the idea of the replacement is not Madame Horner idea. She should be thankful the other girls didn’t replace her and invite her back when they reunited in 2007. The audacity.

Edited August 23, 20222 yr by dancinqueen

Now - if that replacement thing is true, this shows some of them are just not as genuine as they want to appear. I really do hope the idea of the replacement is not Madame Horner idea. She should be thankful the other girls didn’t replace her and invite her back when they reunited in 2007. The audacity.

 

Why? They hadn't been an active group for 7 years at that point. Did they have some kind of superiority over whether or not Geri could return? They were all ex Spice Girls by then and had been for the best part of a decade. Your "Madame Horner" line pretty much says it all of course.

^ Well, it shouldn't have been taken for granted. Westlife didn't accept Brian back when they reunited.