March 21, 20196 yr I'm saying the reason we have immigration is because there aren't enough Brits to do the jobs that generate money that pay the taxes that support the nation and that despitre having the power to totally stop non-EU immigration for a decade May just sent round vans moaning and extradited actual British Empire citizens and stopped much-needed doctors coming over - because they are needed. The EU immigration thing is just political blame-shifting, they have and always have had the power to stop and limit immigration but don't because it's needed. I'd like to offer an amendment to that 'but don't because it's politically incorrect to discuss it'.
March 21, 20196 yr Water shortages not a problem for pro-immigrant Scotland and never will be. Even if we take in 5m immigrants
March 22, 20196 yr Water shortages not a problem for pro-immigrant Scotland and never will be. Even if we take in 5m immigrants Comment saved for later reference. ;) Progressives are full of big talk over loving immigrants, but very few of them live with/near them... I wonder why? :rolleyes: Edited March 22, 20196 yr by vidcapper
March 22, 20196 yr You do realise that a significant amount of England’s water supply comes from Scotland right? We get so much rain that our sustainable water usage level is far far far higher than our population. My parents house is rural and all of the farms are manned by immigrants from Eastern Europe. People born outside the UK make up a lot of our population. I’m used to having large numbers of migrants around us and I actually think it’s great. Until Brexit both our neighbours were migrants as well as the house next door but one. Now one of our neighbours has moved to Germany to escape the madness. I currently live in highly multicultural Manchester and have spent 6 months living as an immigrant in Berlin - a city with a high migrant population. After all of that I can say without a shadow of a doubt that I am pro-migration. I’ve seen the benefits it brings.
March 22, 20196 yr You do realise that a significant amount of England’s water supply comes from Scotland right? We get so much rain that our sustainable water usage level is far far far higher than our population. My parents house is rural and all of the farms are manned by immigrants from Eastern Europe. People born outside the UK make up a lot of our population. I’m used to having large numbers of migrants around us and I actually think it’s great. Until Brexit both our neighbours were migrants as well as the house next door but one. Now one of our neighbours has moved to Germany to escape the madness. I currently live in highly multicultural Manchester and have spent 6 months living as an immigrant in Berlin - a city with a high migrant population. After all of that I can say without a shadow of a doubt that I am pro-migration. I’ve seen the benefits it brings. What about the distinction between legal & illegal immigrants then? The latter is where problems usually arise.
March 22, 20196 yr Stop moving the goal posts to suit your bigoted agenda hun. We do not have an illegal immigration problem. We have a problem with our migration system that means it is hideously inefficient and is downright cruel to those seeking legal status. It prevents people from working and forces them into destitution. A fairer and quicker system would resolve many issues. As would exit controls at our borders (as the majority of “illegal immigrants” are visa overstayers) and a clear legal framework for deportation, as well as dedicated courts for requests and appeals, to make the system more effective. Doing as other countries do and automatically banning overstayers from entry for a couple of years is a good incentive to depart on time, as is mandatory deportation for overstayers. Key for me though is an appropriate system for asylum. I side eye people claiming only after they’ve been caught and I side eye our current system which is so cruel that people trafficking has sprung up as a cottage industry. Making it easier to claim asylum at port of entry or a British consulate will cut the people traffickers off at the knees. Pro-immigrant doesn’t mean anti-border control. It means welcoming people who want to better themselves and will contribute to society as well as providing a home and assistance to those who need it most. The system should be compassionate, fair and efficient but firm where appropriate. Properly enforcing EU law on freedom of movement would be an ideal start
March 22, 20196 yr Stop moving the goal posts to suit your bigoted agenda hun. If it is 'bigoted' to want to protect the country from foreign criminals entering illegally, then so be it. God knows, we've already got too many home grown criminals, without letting in more!
March 22, 20196 yr Author If it is 'bigoted' to want to protect the country from foreign criminals entering illegally, then so be it. God knows, we've already got too many home grown criminals, without letting in more! laws exist to deport foreign illegal entry criminals. There is nothing stopping stopping the UK do this already. Just as we can already deport EU citizens who don't have registered tax-contributing jobs. Stop blaming the EU for failures of British governments to allocate resources to do what is the law. Blame those in power in this country and ask why they have done nothing about it - because it suits their hatred-whipping anti-EU agenda, that's why.
March 22, 20196 yr laws exist to deport foreign illegal entry criminals. There is nothing stopping stopping the UK do this already. cough<ECHR>cough Stop blaming the EU for failures of British governments to allocate resources to do what is the law. Blame those in power in this country and ask why they have done nothing about it - because it suits their hatred-whipping anti-EU agenda, that's why. Those in power are pro-EU not anti - that's why parliament is having problems passing Brexit legislation!
March 22, 20196 yr Author cough<ECHR>cough Those in power are pro-EU not anti - that's why parliament is having problems passing Brexit legislation! 1. The rest of Europe doesn't have problems deporting people, and there are occasional rare instances in this country. It's not like there's a massive list of cases clogging up courts in the UK and the EU. You don't hear about the ones that go smoothly because they go smoothly. Even the ones that illegally deport British citizens to countries they barely know eg The Caribbean. 2. The legislation would have passed if the DUP and ERG had got behind it. They are Hard-line Brexiters, so you don't get to blame Remainers, sorry. They have the numbers but they are so swivel-eyed extreme they can't support their own cause in their own party as organised by their own fellow-Brexiters, that's how nuts they are. Nobody else is in power, the Tories enterd into a deal with the DUP to hold power, following a GE called by Tories and a referendum arranged by Tories, and all that has happened since has been Tory, they havent involved Parliament and deliberately tried to exclude Parliament even though it's constitutionally illegal. May hasnt tried to engage, amend, co-operate with, or listen to the opinions of anyone other than her own inner insane self, so the entire mess is entirely her creation, aided and abetted every step of the way by blatant meh behaviour from Corbyn giving her an easy ride. to allow her to hang herself, hang the Tories, and hang the country. Just saying.....
March 22, 20196 yr If it is 'bigoted' to want to protect the country from foreign criminals entering illegally, then so be it. God knows, we've already got too many home grown criminals, without letting in more! Seriously. That’s the only line you’ve read? If you had bothered to continue reading beyond the point where I call out your actual agenda, you’d note that I discuss ways I believe we can tackle “illegal immigration” that is wholly free from a bigoted undertone. So yes it is possible, just not by you x
March 23, 20196 yr Seriously. That’s the only line you’ve read? Of course not, but it's the only one I chose to respond to.
March 25, 20196 yr PETER HITCHENS: 'I fear a British Trump who'll crush our civilisation' https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-...vilisation.html
March 25, 20196 yr Author PETER HITCHENS: 'I fear a British Trump who'll crush our civilisation' https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-...vilisation.html Project Fear.
March 28, 20196 yr MEPs have complained that they had accidentally voted in favour of a controversial EU law which will result in more stringent regulation of the internet after the voting order was switched at the last minute. Had their proper votes been recorded, then some of the more stringent amendments would have been rejected.
April 22, 20196 yr 4 years ago, a popular Ukrainian TV show, called Servant Of The People, started, starring a teacher who became President of Ukraine following a viral video. The teacher is played by Volodymyr Zelensky. Today, Volodymyr Zelensky, an entertainment mogul with no political experience, wins the Presidential election in Ukraine with 73% of the vote. Hi reality, meet fiction. (though from a quick browse of his positions, he SEEMS promising if only because he's a blank slate that Ukrainians are projecting their need for change onto)
April 22, 20196 yr Yet another event that Charlie Brooker seems to have foreseen, this time with his 2013 episode of Black Mirror ‘The Waldo Moment’.
April 22, 20196 yr He has predicted far too much to not be hanging from his toe nails in a CIA black site.
April 22, 20196 yr Yet another event that Charlie Brooker seems to have foreseen, this time with his 2013 episode of Black Mirror ‘The Waldo Moment’. But before that, there was... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Amazing_Mrs_Pritchard Then, of course, there was Being There.
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