Posted March 29, 20187 yr The Labour/anti-Semitism issue. Is it just a storm-in-a-teacup generated by the Tory press, or might it become a significant negative factor in trying to get back into power?
March 29, 20187 yr Storm in the Tory press and BBTory teacup. The sane anti semitism report concluded there is MORE of it in the Tory party, yet the BBC fails to mention that. Surprise surprise? The mural was of bankers, not Jewish people. Corbyn has been the most prolific anti racist campaigner in parliament for years. The fact that the right wing press is calling even JEWISH people anti semitic is hilarious. They are conflating criticism of Israeli government policy with um racism. Left wing Jewish people are being told they are racist by the non-Jewish right!
March 29, 20187 yr Author Storm in the Tory press and BBTory teacup. The sane anti semitism report concluded there is MORE of it in the Tory party, yet the BBC fails to mention that. Surprise surprise? The mural was of bankers, not Jewish people. Corbyn has been the most prolific anti racist campaigner in parliament for years. The fact that the right wing press is calling even JEWISH people anti semitic is hilarious. They are conflating criticism of Israeli government policy with um racism. Left wing Jewish people are being told they are racist by the non-Jewish right! So you don't think it'll be a hindrance for the next election, then.
March 29, 20187 yr Well there is antisemitism in the Labour Party which is of course an issue that needs to be addressed. Of course the Tories will find any excuse to smear Corbyn but he really hasn't done much about the anti semitism issue. Here is what the guardian says on the matter. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguard...or-antisemitism
March 29, 20187 yr So you don't think it'll be a hindrance for the next election, then. No. The more the BBTory et all smear, the more the public just ignore it. The Russia background made a lot more people see the BBC Tory propaganda channel for what it is. Funny how they all made headlines of a 2006 mural of BANKERS days out from the May elections when Labour is 7 points ahead. Surely that is just coincidence?? :lol: Anti-Israeli government is not necessarily antisemitism. The Tories have a worse problem with it anyway according to the report. Where are the headlines about that? They cannot bash Labour on policy, so they attack with smears. It there IS some racism in the party, and I'm not talking being critical of right wing Israel, then Corbyn as an anti racist protester is the right person to deal with it.
March 29, 20187 yr Author Well there is antisemitism in the Labour Party which is of course an issue that needs to be addressed. Of course the Tories will find any excuse to smear Corbyn but he really hasn't done much about the anti semitism issue. Here is what the guardian says on the matter. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguard...or-antisemitism I give them credit for mentioning it - anti-Semitism is not something that *anyone* should be downplaying. Edited March 29, 20187 yr by vidcapper
March 29, 20187 yr Author No. The more the BBTory et all smear, the more the public just ignore it. The Russia background made a lot more people see the BBC Tory propaganda channel for what it is. What planet are you posting from? :P Anti-Israeli government is not necessarily antisemitism. The Tories have a worse problem with it anyway according to the report. Where are the headlines about that? They cannot bash Labour on policy, so they attack with smears. It there IS some racism in the party, and I'm not talking being critical of right wing Israel, then Corbyn as an anti racist protester is the right person to deal with it. But the thing is, when someone acts 'holier than thou', and gets caught out, it's worse than if they'd said nothing at all - e.g. if you condemn someone for having an affair, then get caught with your own pants down, you then lose all credibility if you make further allegations of the same nature against your opponent.
March 29, 20187 yr I think anyone with any sense in the world would look at that mural and say to themselves that it is offensively anti-Semetic, and any attempts to minimise this is incredibly wrong. And as if you needed any more proof, the artist who painted that mural gave his first interview since the story broke to...David Icke (Lizard-people conspiracy person and known anti-Semite), where he ranted about the Rothschilds. The writer Jeremy Duns, has been very good on the issue of anti-Semitism within Labour for many years, and is definitely worth reading on Twitter at the moment about the issue. Around the time of Corbyn's election, he did a "test" where if he came across a British holocaust denier, he would see who they supported, and in almost every case, it was Jeremy Corbyn.
March 29, 20187 yr I think the right are desperately trying to bring the party into disrepute in order to do damage in the local elections. That is not to say there isn't an issue with antisemitism on the left. People struggle separating Zionism and Israel from Judaism etc. It's something Labour can approve on.
March 29, 20187 yr I can't believe Labour supporters are saying the mural wasn't anti-Semitic...that's just ridiculous :lol: It's clear there's a massive problem with anti-semitism in the Labour Party and even their own leader conveniently 'didn't see properly' an anti-seminic mural.
March 29, 20187 yr Author I think the right are desperately trying to bring the party into disrepute in order to do damage in the local elections. Not that they seeming need much help at the moment...
March 29, 20187 yr I can't believe Labour supporters are saying the mural wasn't anti-Semitic...that's just ridiculous :lol: It's clear there's a massive problem with anti-semitism in the Labour Party and even their own leader conveniently 'didn't see properly' an anti-seminic mural. et he anti semitism report said there is MORE of it in the Tort party lol x Try again. Don't just listen to what the BBTory says.
March 29, 20187 yr et (sic) he (sic) anti semitism report said there is MORE of it in the Tort (sic) party lol x Try again. Don't just listen to what the BBTory says. Let's have a source for this no-doubt balanced and unbiased report that says this.
March 29, 20187 yr I'll find it. Those are CLEAAARLY typos. Put away your superiority complex. We all know how to use sic. We all went to uni. Jesus
March 29, 20187 yr Author I'll find it. Those are CLEAAARLY typos. Put away your superiority complex. We all know how to use sic. We all went to uni. Jesus I went to a college that later turned into a uni - does that count? :)
March 29, 20187 yr The mural is clearly classically anti Jew and if Corbyn doesn't know by now not to comment publicly on something you don't agree with.... Labour has been dodging this issue for 2 years just as Corbyn habitually dodges issues he finds difficult to condemn or support. I can quite believe there is anti Semitic behaviour in other parties but if it's not being reported its hard to confirm and that in any case doesn't excuse in any way other parties regardless of whether Tories are the same or worse.
March 29, 20187 yr ..but just to balance it a bit in the interest of anti-racism: "Leave.EU Verified account @LeaveEUOfficial Follow Follow @LeaveEUOfficial More Is it any wonder that Labour can't be bothered to deal with the disgusting antisemitism in their party when they are so reliant on the votes of Britain's exploding Muslim population? It's a question of maths for these people, not justice!" and the response: "Board of Deputies of British Jews Verified account @BoardofDeputies 7h7 hours ago More Board of Deputies of British Jews Retweeted Leave.EU Completely unacceptable from @LeaveEUOfficial - please delete and apologise now. Some of the best allies we have in the struggle against antisemitism are Muslims, @SadiqKhan, @TellMamaUK and more. This is not the way to challenge antisemitism." So, yes, people still proving they "didn't" vote for Brexit for racist reasons (so f*** off racist Brexiters trying to politically capitalise on one form of racism by using another form of racism fearmongering for political reasons.) Can I say f*** Off Racists? I think I can....and I think it's justified.
March 31, 20187 yr It'll be interesting to see the next set of voting intention polls... Judging by the shouty, annoying, anti-immigrant, EU-hating woman on Newsnight the other evening (Nottingham public Q&A on Brexit) Labour might even get a boost in some areas as she was pissed off at the Tories not just leaving and sticking 2 fingers up to the EU....
March 31, 20187 yr Author Judging by the shouty, annoying, anti-immigrant, EU-hating woman on Newsnight the other evening (Nottingham public Q&A on Brexit) Labour might even get a boost in some areas as she was pissed off at the Tories not just leaving and sticking 2 fingers up to the EU.... Perish the thought that Newsnight might be cherry-picking *that* sort of Leaver for their audience, rather than the vast majority of more rational ones... :teresa:
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