'Sweet But Psycho' could have possibly been my favourite Christmas #1 since '2 Become 1', what a shame.

 

 

I'm an old fogey but even I like that one and Ariana's song too. Good Xmas top 3.

 

I wonder if this will increase sausage roll sales this Christmas. :)

 

 

Good on LadBaby looking set to deliver the surprise that's been so lacking in Christmas charts of recent years. Also anyone advocating sausage rolls heartily gets my approval.

 

Merry Christmas everyone :D :D :D

Bradley Walsh has outsold both of Zayn's two albums with his two then. :lol:

Well, if Sweet But Psycho finishes at #1 then surely that is the most popular song? It’s not as if Ariana is on ACR. :P

Honestly, I think the charts give too much weight to digital sales when 99.9% of the population is exclusively streaming. So if Ariana is getting more streams than Ava then she is more popular imo.

 

But anyway, the user who pointed the most popular song is neither Ariana nor Ava but Mariah Carey is correct. She should be #1 tbh.

Honestly, I think the charts give too much weight to digital sales when 99.9% of the population is exclusively streaming. So if Ariana is getting more streams than Ava then she is more popular imo.

 

You are truly exhausting. :drama:

You are truly exhausting. :drama:

So are you sis. But next time try to go for a reasonable argument instead of the dumb personal attack.

I know this battle is tense but can we please hold back from personal insults? I've just deleted a highly inappropriate post, we're all old enough to know better than name-calling :mellow:

Honestly, I think the charts give too much weight to digital sales when 99.9% of the population is exclusively streaming. So if Ariana is getting more streams than Ava then she is more popular imo.

 

But anyway, the user who pointed the most popular song is neither Ariana nor Ava but Mariah Carey is correct. She should be #1 tbh.

Have you done a survey to back up your 99.9% figure? If not, there is absolutely no weight to this argument...

Honestly, I think the charts give too much weight to digital sales when 99.9% of the population is exclusively streaming. So if Ariana is getting more streams than Ava then she is more popular imo.

 

But anyway, the user who pointed the most popular song is neither Ariana nor Ava but Mariah Carey is correct. She should be #1 tbh.

 

It's nothing like 99.9%

Have you done a survey to back up your 99.9% figure? If not, there is absolutely no weight to this argument...

I thought it was quite obviously a hyperbolic statement but lol, guess it needs to be explained.

 

Anyway, in your opinion what's the % of the public that consumes individual singles through streaming vs. through digital sales? I mean, I think it's laughable y'all honestly believe "Sweet but Psycho" is a bigger song right now among the GP than "Thank U, Next" but last time I had a discussion here people were legitimately arguing Rita Ora was a popstar the GP was very interested in so I guess we're all in different realities tbh.

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I thought it was quite obviously a hyperbolic statement but lol, guess it needs to be explained.

 

Anyway, in your opinion what's the % of the public that consumes individual singles through streaming vs. through digital sales? I mean, I think it's laughable y'all honestly believe "Sweet but Psycho" is a bigger song right now among the GP than "Thank U, Next" but last time I had a discussion here people were legitimately arguing Rita Ora was a popstar the GP was very interested in so I guess we're all in different realities tbh.

No I totally understood your point, I knew it was hyperbolic but even with exaggerating, you're arguing that those who download aren't a significant part of the music consuming audience that makes up the chart. It's short-sighted, especially when you look at Kworb and see that Sweet But Psycho is selling roughly four times as much as thank u, next. Couple that with a difference of only ~50k on Spotify, and Ava is quite easily ahead. I don't see why it's such a difficult concept to grasp?

 

I agree that there's a significantly higher number of people who stream over those who buy, but that doesn't mean we can ignore the latter and say it's irrelevant. But it seems you're not open to discussing this topic if you're giving us that attitude about the previous debate.

Erm if you did a survey of the “general public” there’s a strong chance a lot of them wouldn’t have heard of any of the three tracks or a lot of number 1s etc this year, does that make them any less popular, probably not :P

I wonder if this will increase sausage roll sales this Christmas. :)

Greggs has been busy this week when I walked past maybe it was just a coincidence :lol:

It's short-sighted, especially when you look at Kworb and see that Sweet But Psycho is selling roughly four times as much as thank u, next. Couple that with a difference of only ~50k on Spotify, and Ava is quite easily ahead. I don't see why it's such a difficult concept to grasp?

While I don't necessarily disagree (I'll let the charts decide), this is a very misleading way of presenting the information. A 4x lead sounds impressive but an 1,800 daily sales lead (if Digital Sales Data is to be trusted) which is the same thing does not :P The statistician in me can't help but be slightly bothered :lol:

While I don't necessarily disagree (I'll let the charts decide), this is a very misleading way of presenting the information. A 4x lead sounds impressive but an 1,800 daily sales lead (if Digital Sales Data is to be trusted) which is the same thing does not :P The statistician in me can't help but be slightly bothered :lol:

Of course, I'm speaking relatively - thank u, next is quite significantly behind Sweet But Psycho on iTunes is the point I was making, and it's not something to be ignored just because thank u, next is ahead on Spotify. iTunes may add comparatively less to the chart than it used to, but it really can make all the difference (see Freya Ridings perhaps most notably this year, who owes pretty much all of her top 10 weeks to downloads)

Of course, I'm speaking relatively - thank u, next is quite significantly behind Sweet But Psycho on iTunes is the point I was making, and it's not something to be ignored just because thank u, next is ahead on Spotify. iTunes may add comparatively less to the chart than it used to, but it really can make all the difference (see Freya Ridings perhaps most notably this year, who owes pretty much all of her top 10 weeks to downloads)

Yeah absolutely, I think LadBaby can attest to the power of sales :D Just incongruous data presentation (which I suppose is in part the fault of how iTunes/Spotify present their respective charts) is why the differing proportioned get so muddied. I think if the individual chart sales components were represented side by side with their proportions intact, there'd be a lot less hoopla about how the official chart doesn't line up with the impression people get from looking at iTunes & Spotify on their own.

I mean, the LadBaby artwork did make me laugh. Good on him.

I’m surprised LadBaby is doing well seeing as he’s nowhere on Spotify. I hope he or Ava gets it tomorrow and I also hope Mark overtakes Mariah tomorrow

FFS, 14k in a day, how? Was looking forward to a £50 Xmas bonus :drama:

 

As an upshot, at least there was fuss in the media made over the Xmas No.1 in the end. Ava's team are absolutely mad not getting her over here for some last minute promo, a Christmas number one out of nowhere with her first hit would have been such a good marketing story.

 

Yes it'll def make the news if he takes the no1 as it's a random novelty track although I'm not too sure if it'll help more people promo for next years race as it didnt with the rage campaign, just meant we got a lot of crap campaigns!! We shall see though!!