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great they added Lana to HH

but more surprisingly they also added Westlife!!!!!

 

they have also added Billie Eilish - When I Was Older

and Kehlani too

 

Oh and Lewis Capaldi is now track #3!!!

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Catfish down to #17 but still doing impressively

 

where have all these indie streamers been hiding all this time?

 

If more indie songs were added to playlists to HHUK like Catfish has, indie would be making the charts more, probably.

 

It's good to see there will be an indie hit in the official top 40 on Friday though, even though having listened to it, I am not a huge fan of 'Longshot', having liked 'Kathleen' back in the day.

Bombay Bicycle Club have announced their return - their last album in 2014 got to #1. They're already trending on Twitter in the UK.

 

I think they could pull a Catfish when they release their comeback single!

 

There's no sign of the single yet thoigh is t there not? The twitter feed just says 'this year'?

There's no sign of the single yet thoigh is t there not? The twitter feed just says 'this year'?

Nope, not yet. But it seems they will release new music this year. :)

I can't wait - now we just need Vampire Weekend back :)

They're back this year too! They're releasing their fourth album later this year. :)

 

So many good indie returns this year: Foals, Vampire Weekend, Catfish, Ian Brown, Circa Waves, Bombay, The Courteeners, Doves, Friendly Fires, The Libertines and more!

 

The 1975 and Idles are also releasing new albums this year.

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They're back this year too! They're releasing their fourth album later this year. :)

 

So many good indie returns this year: Foals, Vampire Weekend, Catfish, Ian Brown, Circa Waves, Bombay, The Courteeners, The Libertines and more!

 

The 1975 and Idles are also releasing new albums this year.

 

Amazing :wub:

 

Hope they get good success!

I've been a fan of The Weeknd since 2011 and the whole point of his music back then was that it was hazy and depraved. No one listens to "Glass Table Girls" and holds him up as a role model. Either way not everyone listens to music hoping to get their mother Helen Lovejoy's approval that they're disowning all the scary evil men and their scary evil music. But if you want to go there, that awful Juice WRLD song that everyone seems to be okay with is far more misogynistic.

 

The real problem is that the song is so bland for Gesaffelstein and The Weeknd.

I don’t condone the lyrics either but just to play devil’s advocate, there are trillions of songs in the world and the lyrics are probably a dime a dozen. And if we’re gonna analyze every single lyric, do you know people could listen to the verses of Sweet But Psycho and think “oh so you won’t consent YET but I’ll f*ck with your mind until you do”? I’m not going against everyone bc I love the song and I’m pretty sure Ava herself doesn’t condone sex without consent, but I’m just saying “what if?”

 

There are songs that try to convey a specific motif and The Weeknd’s just happens to be the equivalent of someone who has risen to fame and fortune and is lost in the euphoria of it all: smoking weed, doing drugs, and having mindless sex with their groupies. And that’s something that’s fairly common in music. It’s what people thought rockstars did back in the day. Do these people believe that any of this stuff is good for them? Who knows? It’s just a motif.

 

This could end up being a really good discussion point because of the controversy that it caused, or this could go downhill for me and my reputation as a whole, but it’s something to think about. Does he really believe these things should be glorified, or are we only starting controversy to earn woke brownie points?

I'm probably one of the less "woke" people on this board, and even I was quite shocked by the lyrics in "Lost In The Fire" - the 2nd verse appear to be condoning "corrective rape", which is one of the vilest things that one can do to a woman. I'm not sure whether this is really the Weeknd's own thoughts, or if this song is like Eminem's 'Slim Shady' character, who purposely says horrible and terrible things, and is not a person that one should emulate or relate. Either way, I would imagine that the controversy won't be swept under the carpet, and I have a feeling that if the song does get played regularly on commercial radio, they'll either censor the 2nd verse or remove it entirely.

 

I don't like the song, either musicially or lyrically anyway, so I have no intention of willingly listening to it again.

Yeah personally I’d like a radio edit. Helps smooth things over and makes it more marketable.

 

I’m just gonna leave it at that.

I don’t condone the lyrics either but just to play devil’s advocate, there are trillions of songs in the world and the lyrics are probably a dime a dozen. And if we’re gonna analyze every single lyric, do you know people could listen to the verses of Sweet But Psycho and think “oh so you won’t consent YET but I’ll f*ck with your mind until you do”? I’m not going against everyone bc I love the song and I’m pretty sure Ava herself doesn’t condone sex without consent, but I’m just saying “what if?”

 

There are songs that try to convey a specific motif and The Weeknd’s just happens to be the equivalent of someone who has risen to fame and fortune and is lost in the euphoria of it all: smoking weed, doing drugs, and having mindless sex with their groupies. And that’s something that’s fairly common in music. It’s what people thought rockstars did back in the day. Do these people believe that any of this stuff is good for them? Who knows? It’s just a motif.

 

This could end up being a really good discussion point because of the controversy that it caused, or this could go downhill for me and my reputation as a whole, but it’s something to think about. Does he really believe these things should be glorified, or are we only starting controversy to earn woke brownie points?

Yeah I get what you mean completely. Art is often performative but there is often an element of insidious mentality that can creep through if it's left unchecked. Like I don't think it's particularly a surprise that when, not the genres as a whole, but a noted popular subset of hip hop & country music can be so objectifying to women, and unsurprisingly very few women can crack the mainstream in those genres because the hive mind as a whole find it weird or unnatural to hear that music from women.

 

I mainly just found this whole situation curious as an 'oh, I guess if you'd never heard of The Weeknd prior to "Love Me Harder" or "Earned It" maybe this would seem strange, but honestly he's been just as depraved since back when nobody knew who he was or what he looked like (or that he was even one person). I suppose there's something to be said of the song going severely out there to shock. Can only wonder how long it'll take until Spotify back away from it.

 

I posit though that there's something to be said of collective reactions being just as insidious. Like people pile up these individual incidents and use it to make any sort of excuse to not challenge their pre-conceptions. When that goes unchallenged, you get ugly sweeping gestures that become normalised, and it just piles on more segregation of music audiences, and more bafflement of what 'those' artists and 'those' listeners are condoning.

It's not a defense that "he's been doing that since xx" I mean, if he keeps on performing lyrics like that year after year, he must really consider it as an asset even though it's same old same old? The public perspective evolves and he doesn't, simple as that. No way it's working for him, most likely against.

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I'm not really defending the lyrics as what they are, which is pretty tired from my perspective (and the kind of homophobic line is pretty bad), but the reason I spoke up in the first place was the outrage that people could listen to something so...outrageous. It never feels right to me when people put people up to their own arbitrary standards of what is okay to passively listen to, be it circumstances surrounding the song or the artist themselves.

2 Post Malone Wow. 361k :cheer:

6 Sam/Normani 287k

8 Calvin/Rag'n'Bone Man 236k

 

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Spotify Daily Chart Update (14/01)

01 [01] Ava Max – Sweet but Psycho 433,922

02 [03] Post Malone – Wow. [*NEW PEAK*] 361,224

03 [02] Ariana Grande – thank u, next 335,188

04 [05] Halsey – Without Me 328,891

05 [04] Post Malone & Swae Lee – Sunflower (Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse) 321,369

06 [06] Sam Smith & Normani – Dancing With A Stranger 287,168

07 [07] Mark Ronson – Nothing Breaks Like a Heart (feat. Miley Cyrus) 242,887

08 [09] Calvin Harris & Rag'n'Bone Man – Giant [*NEW PEAK*] 236,743

09 [08] Travis Scott – SICKO MODE 230,598

10 [10] Gesaffelstein – Lost in the Fire (feat. The Weeknd) 229,517

 

11 [15] Jax Jones & Years & Years – Play [*NEW PEAK*]

12 [13] Kodak Black – ZEZE (feat. Travis Scott & Offset)

13 [17] Meek Mill – Going Bad (feat. Drake)

14 [19] Headie One – 18HUNNA (feat. Dave)

15 [12] benny blanco – Eastside (with Halsey & Khalid)

16 [14] Zara Larsson – Ruin My Life

17 [28] NSG – Options (feat. Tion Wayne) [*NEW PEAK*]

18 [11] George Ezra – Shotgun

19 [20] Ellie Goulding & Diplo – Close To Me (feat. Swae Lee)

20 [16] Lady Gaga & Bradley Cooper – Shallow

 

21 [21] Panic! At The Disco – High Hopes

22 [25] Calvin Harris & Sam Smith – Promises

23 [23] Dave – Funky Friday (feat. Fredo)

24 [24] Billie Eilish – when the party's over

25 [18] Marshmello – Happier (feat. Bastille)

26 [27] Sheck Wes – Mo Bamba

27 [32] Khalid – Saturday Nights [*NEW PEAK*]

28 [39] Loud Luxury – Body (feat. Brando)

29 [33] Catfish and the Bottlemen – Longshot

30 [31] Post Malone – Better Now

 

31 [26] Jess Glynne – Thursday

32 [38] Khalid – Better

33 [36] Tyga – Taste (feat. Offset)

34 [30] Little Mix – Woman Like Me (feat. Nicki Minaj)

35 [22] Keala Settle - This Is Me

36 [45] Lewis Capaldi – Someone You Loved [*NEW PEAK*]

37 [42] Flipp Dinero – Leave Me Alone

38 [37] Ariana Grande – imagine

39 [46] Lil Baby & Gunna – Drip Too Hard

40 [50] 6ix9ine – KIKA (feat. Tory Lanez)

 

41 [40] James Arthur & Anne-Marie – Rewrite The Stars

46 [49] russ splash – Gun Lean

48 [48] George Ezra – Hold My Girl

50 [60] Chris Brown – Undecided

52 [55] Cadet & Deno Driz – Advice

55 [47] Dua Lipa & BLACKPINK – Kiss and Make Up

65 [75] Cardi B – Money

73 [80] benny blanco & Calvin Harris – I Found You

77 [76] Clean Bandit – Baby (feat. Marina and The Diamonds & Luis Fonsi)

82 [100] A Boogie Wit da Hoodie – Look Back At It [*NEW PEAK*]

83 [66] Anne-Marie – Perfect To Me

88 [92] Lewis Capaldi – Grace

94 [110] A Boogie Wit da Hoodie – Swervin (feat. 6ix9ine) [*NEW PEAK*]

 

107 [107] Sam Smith – Fire On Fire - From "Watership Down"

110 [132] A Boogie Wit da Hoodie – Startender (feat. Offset & Tyga) [*NEW PEAK*]

113 [124] Westlife – Hello My Love

127 [156] 21 Savage - a lot

133 [177] Kehlani – Nights Like This (feat. Ty Dolla $ign) [*NEW PEAK*]

142 [180] FISHER – Losing It

147 [162] 21 Savage - monster

148 [191] Bring Me The Horizon – medicine

155 [200] CamelPhat & Cristoph – Breathe (feat. Jem Cooke)

157 [173] Marshmello & Roddy Ricch – Project Dreams

162 [RE] Yxng Bane – Problem (feat. Fredo)

174 [RE] Tom Grennan – Found What I've Been Looking For

190 [RE] Madison Beer – Hurts Like Hell (feat. Offset)

194 [RE] The Chainsmokers – Hope (feat. Winona Oak)

 

OUT [140] Pinkfong – Baby Shark

Kehlani with an impressive jump :wub:

Westlife also climbing again! Wonder if they can go top 100 again?

Ew at Post rapidly climbing. Back off, bitch.

Hope Westlife climb into the top 100 again: although it won't get much airplay support, just appearances on some timely shows!
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