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A binding referendum would have had a threshold.

A binding referendum would have had provision for the result to be annulled if the winning side broke the law.

The Leave side would have been under more pressure to produce something vaguely resembling a plan if the vote was to be binding.

 

You are commenting on a hypothetical scenario that *didn't* happen, rather than the real one that did.

 

We had a referendum that produced a particular result, there's no point arguing that everything would be peachy as long as the gov't ignored the result of it. The effective end of democracy in this country would be far far worse than the consequences of even a 'no deal' Brexit!

 

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But Remainers are going to claim that *absolutely ANYTHING* that goes wrong in the next few years is due to Brexit, regardless... :drama:

 

Because a lot of it will be. All these things that a lot of people dismissed as fear are actually going to happen. Similarly why it looks like we're struggling for trade deals.. because we actually don't have much to trade!

About 6 ruddy months too late. I'm guessing the defections finally changed their mind.

 

Probably finally decided to put their personal idelogogy ahead of the Party for the sake of the Party splitting. Such a shame it's taken this long, but at least it looks like Parliment is fully against a No Deal now.

It would need about 25-35 Tories to support it I believe, to counter the Caroline Flint types.
I think we've topped out at around 20 Conservative rebels, and 3 of them just left the party. So... no majority.

There are pragmatic Tory MPs such as George Freeman, Simon Hart and maybe even cabinet members like Amber Rudd who haven't yet rebelled on Brexit legislation but would in such an urgent situation. Many of these are in the 50-strong Brexit Delivery Group. I accept that there's no probably no majority now and that the vast majority in that list would prefer a Labour-friendly soft Brexit political declaration before resorting to a People's Vote - it depends what happens between now and March 12.

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YEs, I saw some of those URL's too

It is now worth putting the current timetable into perspective. Yesterday, I bought some bacon. The Best Before date is 28 March. In other words, the time left for the withdrawal agreement to get through parliament and for a whole raft of related legislation to be passed is now the same as the time it takes for raw meat to go off.
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It is now worth putting the current timetable into perspective. Yesterday, I bought some bacon. The Best Before date is 28 March. In other words, the time left for the withdrawal agreement to get through parliament and for a whole raft of related legislation to be passed is now the same as the time it takes for raw meat to go off.

 

Have you thought about freezing it... :teresa:

Have you thought about freezing it... :teresa:

 

well in terms of being stored in the icer, left in the cold, and a frozen economy, that's quite an appropriate suggestion... :P

well in terms of being stored in the icer, left in the cold, and a frozen economy, that's quite an appropriate suggestion... :P

Far better than my answer would have been :lol:

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