May 10, 20196 yr It is indeed ridiculous. Nigel Farage has racked up his record 33rd appearance on Question Time after complaining about a lack of coverage (https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-storie...-time-1-6040398), then summarily on said show could not name a country that trades solely on WTO rules (https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/question-...xample-blunder/). And then over here we have Guido f***ing Fawkes thinking he can dismiss a professor of clinical psychology (who might have the danger of actually knowing what he’s talking about on the issue of subliminal psychology) by using the loaded language of ‘spluttered’. Well this is it in a nutshell when a Brexiteer tells you we should trade on WTO trade terms. No-one does it cos they are shite.
May 10, 20196 yr Well this is it in a nutshell when a Brexiteer tells you we should trade on WTO trade terms. No-one does it cos they are shite. And, of course, those rules are written by unelected bureaucrats without even having to be endorsed by an elected parliament because the WTO doesn't have one. Furthermore, unlike the EU, being a democracy is not a requirement for membership.
May 10, 20196 yr Author Just watched Change UK's PEB from this evening. Goodness, it was woeful. Obviously they didn't take anyone with a background in making political spots when they jumped ship.
May 10, 20196 yr Author Also, have added a poll to this thread, so we can get a good grasp on what parties we're gravitating towards.
May 11, 20196 yr As I've said before, the Brexit Party's persuasion tactics have been second to none since they've started, and the quoted psychologist isn't the only one who's picked up on that. Nigel Farage has said that his aim is to win the election, and so far he has been bust ticking all the boxes to hit that target (although I still can't personally see them topping the poll). The fact the party doesn't have proper policies or a manifesto means nothing, it is not an impediment to them winning (if anything, it would be a hindrance). Oh I do know how effective it’s being, but one can only hope that continually pointing out how little substance exists behind the Farage blank cheque has some counter-effect. Voted Lib Dem in the poll. Unfortunately a lot of what I’m seeing is infighting as the Remain parties once again devour themselves, this time over Gina Miller’s tactical voting website, largely because it says to vote the LDs wherever you are in England for a Remain vote. England does have some very good Green MEPs but there is a stronger Lib Dem base*. *this whole issue is of course assuming that Remain is your only concern in this election. What the MEPs will stand for in the European Parliament is just as important.
May 11, 20196 yr Have i got news for you is pulled because it has heidi allen on as guest. Nigel farage meanwhile gets to promote his fan club for the 34th time on question time. If you cant invite other members of a socalled "political party" instead of the self promoting head of a personality based one issue cult then you shouldnt get pissy about a politician having a laugh. Imho of course. Plus farage was on the show for the last european elections so allen claims. If true hypocrisy much.
May 11, 20196 yr Meanwhile man of the blokey poverty stricken wannabe politician nigel "im buggering off when the shit hits the fan" farage has problems with his range rover and chauffeur..... This is in the sun.... https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9049369/nigel...th-old-toddler/ Yes, The Sun!
May 11, 20196 yr Have i got news for you is pulled because it has heidi allen on as guest. Nigel farage meanwhile gets to promote his fan club for the 34th time on question time. If you cant invite other members of a socalled "political party" instead of the self promoting head of a personality based one issue cult then you shouldnt get pissy about a politician having a laugh. Imho of course. Plus farage was on the show for the last european elections so allen claims. If true hypocrisy much. It goes beyond that. Just one week before the local elections there was a Tory MP on HIGNFY. That, apparently, was perfectly OK. The BBC / Hat Trick Production went ahead and recorded the programme on Thursday night knowing that there was an election due in just two weeks' time. They obviously went ahead in t he belief that there wouldn't be a problem. They spent Friday editing the programme and were all set to show it. Then, less than an hour before it was due to be shown, the show was pulled. The whole thing stinks. Meanwhile, Farage is on the Andrew Marr show tomorrow along with a Labour and Tory guest. No doubt he will be given the usual soft ride. There will be no Lib Dem on the show. There wasn't one on the show last week either, despite the fact that it came just a few days after the party had performed spectacularly well in the local elections. I look forward to the whole of next week's show being given over to Vince Cable or Tom Brake (EU spokesman) just to restore balance
May 11, 20196 yr It goes beyond that. Just one week before the local elections there was a Tory MP on HIGNFY. That, apparently, was perfectly OK. The BBC / Hat Trick Production went ahead and recorded the programme on Thursday night knowing that there was an election due in just two weeks' time. They obviously went ahead in t he belief that there wouldn't be a problem. They spent Friday editing the programme and were all set to show it. Then, less than an hour before it was due to be shown, the show was pulled. The whole thing stinks. Meanwhile, Farage is on the Andrew Marr show tomorrow along with a Labour and Tory guest. No doubt he will be given the usual soft ride. There will be no Lib Dem on the show. There wasn't one on the show last week either, despite the fact that it came just a few days after the party had performed spectacularly well in the local elections. I look forward to the whole of next week's show being given over to Vince Cable or Tom Brake (EU spokesman) just to restore balance Don't hold your breath, though. :P
May 11, 20196 yr It goes beyond that. Just one week before the local elections there was a Tory MP on HIGNFY. That, apparently, was perfectly OK. The BBC / Hat Trick Production went ahead and recorded the programme on Thursday night knowing that there was an election due in just two weeks' time. They obviously went ahead in t he belief that there wouldn't be a problem. They spent Friday editing the programme and were all set to show it. Then, less than an hour before it was due to be shown, the show was pulled. The whole thing stinks. Meanwhile, Farage is on the Andrew Marr show tomorrow along with a Labour and Tory guest. No doubt he will be given the usual soft ride. There will be no Lib Dem on the show. There wasn't one on the show last week either, despite the fact that it came just a few days after the party had performed spectacularly well in the local elections. I look forward to the whole of next week's show being given over to Vince Cable or Tom Brake (EU spokesman) just to restore balance The feeble excuse is that leaders of political parties will be able to cause bias on light entertainment shows specialising in slagging off all politicians especially the guests, but non leaders wont. That nobody has heard of heidi allen by and large must mean that, say, boris johnson would have been fine and while she is going to boost the pro eu cause but johnson isnt. Simplistic. Thats the bbc who have issues of logic and clearly just opt for bias in the name of non bias. Pathetic.
May 12, 20196 yr Have i got news for you is pulled because it has heidi allen on as guest. Nigel farage meanwhile gets to promote his fan club for the 34th time on question time. If you cant invite other members of a socalled "political party" instead of the self promoting head of a personality based one issue cult then you shouldnt get pissy about a politician having a laugh. Imho of course. Plus farage was on the show for the last european elections so allen claims. If true hypocrisy much. I loved their tweet: @1126934743407370241 Stupid decision really, especially as they had a Conservative MP (Johnny Mercer) on the week of the Local Elections. He was totally DESTROYED (as they say on Twitter/YouTube) by Ian Hislop though. Purdah means fuck all, especially for the Euros where turnout is notoriously low and nobody even knows (or cares) who their MEP is.
May 13, 20196 yr What would your ranked choice voting be in a truly proportional system be? (I quite like STV, preferably with large constituencies, which is used in Scottish council and non-Westminster NI elections) I think it'd go SNP -> Green -> Lib Dems -> Labour -> ChangeUK -> Tories -> BREX -> UKIP for me. Edited May 13, 20196 yr by Harve
May 13, 20196 yr What would your ranked choice voting be in a truly proportional system be? (I quite like STV, preferably with large constituencies, which is used in Scottish council and non-Westminster NI elections) I think it'd go SNP -> Green -> Lib Dems -> Labour -> ChangeUK -> Tories -> BREX -> UKIP for me. IT would be Brexit > UKIP and that's all.
May 13, 20196 yr Voted other - Sinn Fein most likely. Likely Labour if I lived in the UK or the Brexit Party as a protest at the handling of Brexit by the MPs in parliament.
May 13, 20196 yr Author I know that Buzzjack is not a representative sample of the general public, but I'm quite surprised that no-one has voted for Labour in the poll so far. Has their dithering over their EU-position put a lot of people off? Less surprised, but still somewhat surprised, that no-one's plumped for the Tories either. Voted other - Sinn Fein most likely. Likely Labour if I lived in the UK or the Brexit Party as a protest at the handling of Brexit by the MPs in parliament. I know I'm not one to judge anybody else's political preferences...but really??
May 13, 20196 yr Looking purely at a European Election basis, I'd go Lib Dems > Greens >>>>>>>> Change UK >>>>> Labour >>>> Conservative (last ditch attempt to block the remaining)
May 13, 20196 yr I know that Buzzjack is not a representative sample of the general public, but I'm quite surprised that no-one has voted for Labour in the poll so far. Has their dithering over their EU-position put a lot of people off? Less surprised, but still somewhat surprised, that no-one's plumped for the Tories either. I know I'm not one to judge anybody else's political preferences...but really?? Yes definitely, democracy should be upheld imo: swiftly followed by a border poll!!
May 13, 20196 yr Yes definitely, democracy should be upheld imo: swiftly followed by a border poll!! The only way of upholding democracy is to accept that the advisory referendum was won fraudulently and that, therefore, the result should be disregarded.
May 13, 20196 yr The result was always going to be implemented the PM of the time said in official government literature that it would be.
May 13, 20196 yr The result was always going to be implemented the PM of the time said in official government literature that it would be. Parliament is sovereign. Parliament legislated for an advisory referendum. A statement from the PM cannot override that.
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