June 11, 20196 yr I’m somewhat alarmed that Johnson (I refuse to refer to him by first name), is a runaway favourite. I’m still not convinced. My only conclusion that he gets the backing is because he basically won’t do his job, will spend most of his time swanning about doing PR and any other self-serving narcissistic activities. Meanwhile, the leg work will be done without him by all other MPs will continue to play tug of war thus carving a road to a second ref. On a side note, is Johnson really a Brexiter? He's a Quitter for as long as it helps him get to be PM. If he gets the job his focus will switch to keeping it. If that means abandoning this whole nonsense and revoking Article 50, that's what he will do.
June 11, 20196 yr He's a Quitter for as long as it helps him get to be PM. If he gets the job his focus will switch to keeping it. If that means abandoning this whole nonsense and revoking Article 50, that's what he will do. There was also the business of him apparently writing two different articles about his decision on the EU Referendum - one where he sets out his intention to campaign for Leave, and one for Remain, and in the end he plumped for Leave. I think his "Remain" article did leak out a few years back. There was an article today about his lack of moral and political compass, and quite surprisingly it was in The Spectator, particularly when you remember who its editor was from 1999-2005.
June 11, 20196 yr There was also the business of him apparently writing two different articles about his decision on the EU Referendum - one where he sets out his intention to campaign for Leave, and one for Remain, and in the end he plumped for Leave. I think his "Remain" article did leak out a few years back. There was an article today about his lack of moral and political compass, and quite surprisingly it was in The Spectator, particularly when you remember who its editor was from 1999-2005. I used to know Neil Sherlock (the man mentioned in the article for beating Johnson at Oxford) very well. He and his father were in Woking Lib Dems in my time there.
June 12, 20196 yr You'd prefer even Boris?? :P I think a carrot with a spray cheese-cream hairdo could do a better job than Johnson. Notice how he's avoiding all questions today, ESPECIALLY those related to how he is going to achieve a deal by October when the EU has disbanded the teams following the elections and he won't be in post till ooh at least 8 weeks before Halloween after theyve all been on their summer hols in france. Nor how he proposes to convince the same MP's not to be against No Deal that May was. Nor how trying to get a deal once youve left and are desperate for any crumbs is better than being a member and having power of disruption. Nor what about all those 90's coke revelations. Lies? Hasn't denied them. Carrot.
June 12, 20196 yr Author A Comres poll asked how people would vote if Boris was PM and Corbyn still led Labour. Interesting. An overall majority of 140 for Boris. :o Con: 37% Lab: 22% Lib Dems: 20% Brexit: 14% Edited June 12, 20196 yr by Common Sense
June 12, 20196 yr A Comres poll asked how people would vote if Boris was PM and Corbyn still led Labour. Interesting. An overall majority of 140 for Boris. :o Con: 37% Lab: 22% Lib Dems: 20% Brexit: 14% That is so out of kilter with other polls that it has to be taken with a whole mine of salt.
June 12, 20196 yr Author That is so out of kilter with other polls that it has to be taken with a whole mine of salt. He's obviously their best chance of winning the next election and they know that. Someone was wondering on DS today if they may all withdraw to give it to Boris without a membership vote like in 2016 if he has a large first vote from MP's. I'd wondered that too.
June 12, 20196 yr He's obviously their best chance of winning the next election and they know that. Someone was wondering on DS today if they may all withdraw to give it to Boris without a membership vote like in 2016 if he has a large first vote from MP's. I'd wondered that too. They'll live to regret it. Trouble is, the rest of us will suffer far more.
June 12, 20196 yr Author Result of first round of MP's voting expected about 1pm tomorrow. Edited June 12, 20196 yr by Common Sense
June 12, 20196 yr There was also the business of him apparently writing two different articles about his decision on the EU Referendum - one where he sets out his intention to campaign for Leave, and one for Remain, and in the end he plumped for Leave. I think his "Remain" article did leak out a few years back. There was an article today about his lack of moral and political compass, and quite surprisingly it was in The Spectator, particularly when you remember who its editor was from 1999-2005. I’ve seen this before. My theory is that Brexit is pass the parcel, but with a ticking clock. May avoided the explosion. I agree Johnson is all mouth. People are worried he will push his no deal through but there is a whole host of hurdles to get over for that to happen, not to mention over eventualities we haven’t necessarily thought of at this stage. I think Johnson is very weak, politically.
June 13, 20196 yr Further evidence of the calibre of leadership candidates... Ester McVey defended her aim to cut spending on overseas aid by claiming that money was mis-spent. When asked for an example she cited an airport where the runway was built in the wrong direction, facing the wind. She was asked where this airport was and replied "It's in... one of the continents,,, abroad". Alan Duncan (a Tory MP) believes she is referring to an airport in St Helena. This is a UK Overseas Territory and, therefore, our responsibility. The spending does not count as overseas aid. As for the direction of the runway, there is nothing wrong with it. It is built, as with all runways, to avoid cross-winds most of the time.
June 13, 20196 yr Result of first round of MP's voting expected about 1pm tomorrow. Voting closes at mid-day. Only the Tories could take a whole hour to count 300 votes.
June 13, 20196 yr Further evidence of the calibre of leadership candidates... Ester McVey defended her aim to cut spending on overseas aid by claiming that money was mis-spent. When asked for an example she cited an airport where the runway was built in the wrong direction, facing the wind. She was asked where this airport was and replied "It's in... one of the continents,,, abroad". Alan Duncan (a Tory MP) believes she is referring to an airport in St Helena. This is a UK Overseas Territory and, therefore, our responsibility. The spending does not count as overseas aid. As for the direction of the runway, there is nothing wrong with it. It is built, as with all runways, to avoid cross-winds most of the time. So McVey literally a Blowhard full of wind. It's a very windy mountain top, and planes struggle to land commercially. It's a UK project. So a UK cock-up then. Quel suprise! :lol: She's another carrot. Most of the candidates are morons or radicals making half-remembered-stuff up when they havent got a prompt in front of them and a script to stick to.
June 13, 20196 yr He's obviously their best chance of winning the next election and they know that. Someone was wondering on DS today if they may all withdraw to give it to Boris without a membership vote like in 2016 if he has a large first vote from MP's. I'd wondered that too. Yes, Boris is nothing to be sniffed at. Funny how Gove is answering questions and Johnson isn't about being a bit sniffy in the past. That could get right up one's nose. Double-standards in the Tory Party? Heaven forbid!
June 13, 20196 yr Results are in: Michael Gove: 37 Matt Hancock: 20 Mark Harper: 10 Jeremy Hunt: 43 Sajid Javid: 23 Boris Johnson: 114 Andrea Leadsom: 11 Esther McVey: 9 Dominic Raab: 27 Rory Stewart: 19 Boris Johnson's massive lead :mellow: He's almost certainly our next PM then isn't he? McVey, Harper and Leadsom have been kicked out of the race.
June 13, 20196 yr I’m pretty sure that unless he loses supporters in subsequent ballots, then that would be enough to comfortably see Boris into the run-off. But Tory supporters could surprise us if they prefer the other candidate, who’s either going to be Gove or Hunt.
June 13, 20196 yr Stewart surviving until the next ballot is a small victory. He’ll want to be returning in a few years to lead them out of desolaction. It looks good for Boris but I think Hunt in the final round could run him close.
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