Dumping Corbyn will be a necessity if they lose a 2nd election under him...

 

 

Well let's hope he goes of his own accord. Surely he will.

This morning's big election news. From BBC News.

 

 

Labour's policies would cost £1.2 trillion over five years, the Conservative Party has claimed.

An analysis of Labour's pledges, overseen by Sajid Javid, suggests Jeremy Corbyn's party is committed to spending £650 million a day, according to a report in the Sunday Times.

 

The plans would cost every UK family £43,000 per year over the next five years, the Conservatives said.

 

The Chancellor told the paper the country "cannot afford Corbyn's spending spree", which he claimed would "undo all the hard work of the British people in recent years".

 

He said Labour's proposals - which include plans to renationalise rail, mail, water and energy - could leave the economy on the "brink of bankruptcy".

 

The paper said the figure was based on costings for Labour's last manifesto and its most recent pledges, spread across a five-year period.

 

Business minister Kwasi Kwarteng said Labour's plans are "reckless" as he defended the Conservatives' claim.

 

He told Sky's Sophy Ridge On Sunday: "It is absolutely right that the public know that Labour's plans are reckless and unaffordable."

 

However, he could not state the total cost of the Tories' pledges.

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No one has quite been able to explain to me yet why I have to hate Corbyn with such venom.

This morning's big election news. From BBC News.

Labour's policies would cost £1.2 trillion over five years, the Conservative Party has claimed.

An analysis of Labour's pledges, overseen by Sajid Javid, suggests Jeremy Corbyn's party is committed to spending £650 million a day, according to a report in the Sunday Times.

 

The plans would cost every UK family £43,000 per year over the next five years, the Conservatives said.

 

The Chancellor told the paper the country "cannot afford Corbyn's spending spree", which he claimed would "undo all the hard work of the British people in recent years".

 

He said Labour's proposals - which include plans to renationalise rail, mail, water and energy - could leave the economy on the "brink of bankruptcy".

 

The paper said the figure was based on costings for Labour's last manifesto and its most recent pledges, spread across a five-year period.

 

Business minister Kwasi Kwarteng said Labour's plans are "reckless" as he defended the Conservatives' claim.

 

He told Sky's Sophy Ridge On Sunday: "It is absolutely right that the public know that Labour's plans are reckless and unaffordable."

 

However, he could not state the total cost of the Tories' pledges.

 

I thought about posting this myself, but I doubt anyone else but us would like the source. ;)

^Of course, what you're failing to mention there is that the actual story is about the Conservatives manufacturing fake news about Labour. Conservative lies. Though it probably was updated pretty recently.

 

It isn't about Corbyn. He needs to be replaced with a successor to keep Labour's tradition of centre-left dem soc, and then Rebecca Long-Bailey, or Dawn Butler, or Jess Philips or whoever it is will face those same attacks. I mean, Ed bloody Miliband was called Red Ed. They'll do it to any Labour leader if they are scared of what their policies will do to their wealth. And if he's replaced with a Blairite then we just start the same sorry cycle of Labour acquiescing back to the right and no real change ever occurring.

 

Starmer and McDonnell are also respectable voices, if you want to say Tories are more than just an idiotic Johnson then you have to also consider that Labour has plenty of voices.

 

BNP, NF, Britain First etc are not going save any deposits let alone win any seats, so which Racist/fascist parties did you have in mind? :huh:

 

Oh, I wonder.

 

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-storie...adron-1-6367008

 

Not to mention the founder turning out to be a big old racist and the fact that Farage is certainly crypto-fascist himself, but hides it his cheery demeanour.

 

and let's not forget the Tories:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/polit...h-a9196451.html

 

those two are just from the last 24 hours. Brexit and Tory party candidates are going through an alarmingly high rate of having to resign the minute they're put up and their histories searched. Institutional racists.

Wait until the manifestos are published before getting into spending. You can't yet portray either party as unaffordable, and all accounts show that the Conservatives plan to spend and borrow at high rates much like Labour, but with less of a look to investing.

Sajid Javid on Marr - absolute d!ck; ANSWER THE QUESTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Same old Tory sh!te - don't answer a question, then just soundbite, soundbite, soundbite and get people fearful of Corbyn at every turn.

 

Edited November 10, 20195 yr by ElectroBoy

Nigel Farage should have been on Sky with Sophie Ridge this morning but pulled out last night. Love the joke "pity his dad didn't pull out" :D

Sajid Javid on Marr - absolute d!ck; ANSWER THE QUESTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Same old Tory sh!te - don't answer a question, then just soundbite, soundbite, soundbite and get people fearful of Corbyn at every turn.

 

 

Just watching him on today's extended Marr and he was on Sky just after 9. He's doing the studio rounds today as a lot of the others are at the Remembrance service.

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What the hell is that rubbish above?! Tory lies.

What the hell is that rubbish above?! Tory lies.

 

 

NO. Labour's plans to cripple the country financially within 18 months says the Chancellor.

This morning's big election news. From BBC News.

Labour's policies would cost £1.2 trillion over five years, the Conservative Party has claimed.

An analysis of Labour's pledges, overseen by Sajid Javid, suggests Jeremy Corbyn's party is committed to spending £650 million a day, according to a report in the Sunday Times.

 

The plans would cost every UK family £43,000 per year over the next five years, the Conservatives said.

 

The Chancellor told the paper the country "cannot afford Corbyn's spending spree", which he claimed would "undo all the hard work of the British people in recent years".

 

He said Labour's proposals - which include plans to renationalise rail, mail, water and energy - could leave the economy on the "brink of bankruptcy".

 

The paper said the figure was based on costings for Labour's last manifesto and its most recent pledges, spread across a five-year period.

 

Business minister Kwasi Kwarteng said Labour's plans are "reckless" as he defended the Conservatives' claim.

 

He told Sky's Sophy Ridge On Sunday: "It is absolutely right that the public know that Labour's plans are reckless and unaffordable."

 

However, he could not state the total cost of the Tories' pledges.

 

The last line is key.

 

As for the figure, it is plainly ridiculous and misleading. OK, so maybe some people might end up paying a lot more tax. However, to calculate an average that is more than a lot of households earn in a year is just scaremongering.

Whose report on the matter was compiled by the Conservative Party and not the Treasury and is therefore not credible. Jesus.

The last line is key.

 

As for the figure, it is plainly ridiculous and misleading. OK, so maybe some people might end up paying a lot more tax. However, to calculate an average that is more than a lot of households earn in a year is just scaremongering.

 

The front pages on this matter are sickening. Misrepresentations of fact, parroting Tory propaganda on the front pages of at least four of our major newspapers.

The front pages on this matter are sickening. Misrepresentations of fact, parroting Tory propaganda on the front pages of at least four of our major newspapers.

And, of course, most of them ignore the fact that the investigation into Johnson's alleged misuse of public funds has been put on hold until after the election. Similarly, there is still no mention of the report into potential Russian interference in the referendum campaign that could call into question the legitimacy of the result.

NO. Labour's plans to cripple the country financially within 18 months says the Chancellor.

 

As Marr said; Javid knows more about the possible spending of Labour than he does of his own plans. In fact he couldn't answer any of Marr's questions and just kept returning to the same Tory Rhetoric of Corbyn is bad, get Brexit done - repeat to fade

 

The Tories can't seem to sell themselves on the merit of their own proposals/ what they want to do. They can only make themselves look better by trying to run down the competition.

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Whose report on the matter was compiled by the Conservative Party and not the Treasury and is therefore not credible. Jesus.

 

This. Ban the troll!!!

Whose report on the matter was compiled by the Conservative Party and not the Treasury and is therefore not credible. Jesus.

If they've used methods they've employed before, they will have taken every single vague mention of extra spending by a Labour spokesperson, assumed it to be a definite pledge, calculated the maximum potential cost and added on a bit more. Of course, today's Tory party are even less honest than ever, so they may well have added in some ideas floated by ordinary Labour party members in the pub.

Once again Corbyn doesn't even bother to bow after laying his wreath at the Cenotaph. :angry: Yes he stood there for a few seconds but didn't make an obvious bow as Boris did. Shame on him. What's wrong with the guy? :rolleyes:

 

You'd think after all the criticism about this in previous years that he'd do it properly. Hopefully his last time laying a wreath anyway.

Edited November 10, 20195 yr by Freddie Kruger

This. Ban the troll!!!

 

 

I agree. A little holiday will do you good Michael. :D