What do you think about it though? I mean as. Tory supporter?

 

Are you happy to get Brexit Done at the expense of lives and the conditions on which Children are treated in hospitals?

 

I just want Brexit done. It's not his fault if one hospital has a problem. He's said they'll increase funding and train more Dr's and nurses.

I just want Brexit done. It's not his fault if one hospital has a problem. He's said they'll increase funding and train more Dr's and nurses.

 

Wow!

 

Thanks for showing what Farage and Johnson and the right wing media have done to this country.

Wow!

 

Thanks for showing what Farage and Johnson and the right wing media have done to this country.

 

 

If they increase funding as Boris has promised there'll be more beds. That was one child waiting for a bed in one hospital though. It's winter and hospitals are busy.

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If they increase funding as Boris has promised there'll be more beds.

 

Yeah I think we can all see the Boris based problem with this comment and the lies told from their manifesto.

British Sun. Didn't know there was another.

There’s no such thing as the “British sun” ffs the world doesn’t revolve around bloody England. There’s an Irish, Scottish and English/Welsh edition (as far as I’m aware there isn’t a stand alone Welsh edition)

If they increase funding as Boris has promised there'll be more beds. That was one child waiting for a bed in one hospital though. It's winter and hospitals are busy.

Absolutely hopeless

Chris, even the most audent Boris fan can see he clearly messed up big time in that interview. His inability to even recognise the fact and try to give his PR message, cumilating in him taking the journalists phone and putting it in his pocket does not do any harm to the credibility that "Tories don't care about kids". It was a huge PR gaffe.

Boris has had to cancel a visit to Bishop Auckland on security advice after Momentum activists said they'd be there to throw milkshakes at him.

 

Disgusting that in a democracy a leader can't go campaigning without the threat of assassination by milkshake. :(

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There’s no such thing as the “British sun” ffs the world doesn’t revolve around bloody England. There’s an Irish, Scottish and English/Welsh edition (as far as I’m aware there isn’t a stand alone Welsh edition)

 

 

English/Welsh then. I never knew there were others.

Chris, even the most audent Boris fan can see he clearly messed up big time in that interview. His inability to even recognise the fact and try to give his PR message, cumilating in him taking the journalists phone and putting it in his pocket does not do any harm to the credibility that "Tories don't care about kids". It was a huge PR gaffe.

 

 

We always get these NHS scare stories in an election campaign though. Would be the same if Labour were battling to stay in power.

We always get these NHS scare stories in an election campaign though. Would be the same if Labour were battling to stay in power.

 

Scare story?

 

There’s no hope for you :rolleyes:

Scare story?

 

There’s no hope for you :rolleyes:

 

 

Well okay stories that the NHS is in a mess and underfunded. He's said since that incident this morning that they'll increase funding. If I were him I'd stay home the next two days. :P

Scare story?

 

There’s no hope for you :rolleyes:

 

 

Well okay stories that the NHS is in a mess and underfunded. He's said since that incident this morning that they'll increase funding. If I were him I'd stay home the next two days. :P

When Boris does wrong I do call him out on it. I fully and absolutely believe he should have appeared with Andrew Neil and even emailed Tory HQ and No.10 to tell him so. Him calling Muslim women letterboxes was wrong too and blatantly racist but he said it was a "throwaway remark, a light-hearted joke"

 

Boris isn't perfect and am sure Corbyn would admit that he isn't. No-one is. He's trying though to get honour the referendum result and the will of the people.

He could conceivably have dismissed it as a throwaway remark if he had said it in an unguarded moment although many people would have said that it exposed his underlying racism. However, he said it in a published article. He had time to consider it and time to change his mind. He chose to go ahead and send it for publication. The same applies to smiling picaninnies, tank-topped bum boys and bank robbers as well as his bigoted remarks about working class people.

Boris has had to cancel a visit to Bishop Auckland on security advice after Momentum activists said they'd be there to throw milkshakes at him.

 

Disgusting that in a democracy a leader can't go campaigning without the threat of assassination by milkshake. :(

Oh dear. the poor sensitive flower.

Oh dear. the poor sensitive flower.

 

 

They shouldn't announce his schedule in advance.

They shouldn't announce his schedule in advance.

You mean it's best if he doesn't get to meet anyone other than Tory activists? Just in case someone asks him a question slightly more difficult than whether he prefers custard creams or bourbon creams.

You mean it's best if he doesn't get to meet anyone other than Tory activists? Just in case someone asks him a question slightly more difficult than whether he prefers custard creams or bourbon creams.

 

 

No in case some unhinged person or terrorist decides to shoot or stab him.

No in case some unhinged person or terrorist decides to shoot or stab him.

 

Like the 70 year old labour supporters who were abused whilst canvassing and ended up in hospital due to right wing supporters

Interesting article from The Independent.

 

 

It is often remarked that generals, the bad ones at any rate, always tend to fight the last war. And then, of course, lose.

 

I wonder if we – the journalists, the voters, even the politicians – are making the same mistake with the British general election of 2019.

 

Ever since the get-go, and even now, the word you most often hear (apart from Brexit) about this contest is “unpredictable”. We’re still told that this is the most unpredictable election in years; that anything could happen; the public is volatile and undecided; there will be some wave of tactical voting to transform things; or a wave of tactical campaigning to do the same; or a “youth quake” is going to sweep away our complacent assumptions; that aggressive micro-targeted modern cyber election techniques will transform the parties’ marketing; and, of course, that the polls are all wrong and anyway, a 2017-style Corbyn surge is just around the corner.

 

Even if any of those things were ever true, or were ever going to be true, they are not true now. It is not 2017 all over again. We are going to get a Tory landslide. Or leastways a very decent majority, large enough for Boris Johnson to disregard not only the opposition parties, but also the European Research Group and any vestigial stirrings of pro-Remain, anti-no deal sentiment that somehow escaped his purge of the candidates’ list.

 

At the start of this campaign, Johnson and the Conservatives had a roughly 10-point lead over the Labour Party, and the position has held, with some squeeze on the Farageists and the Lib Dems, bar a few wibbles and wobbles, ever since. We might as well have called off all the tedious “make-or-break” leaders’ debates and photo stunts and fact-checking and just put our feet up. I’m a Celeb was more volatile and unpredictable.

 

It has been remarkably predictable in fact – or, more accurately, the unpredictable thing about the year 2019 was how boringly predictable it has been. Things are not, as of today, “tight”, as Laura Kuenssberg says they are. I don’t know why she says this, given all the data, but there we are.

 

The Tories, true enough, agree it is touch and go, but that is not because they fear not being the largest party or winning a working majority. What is touch and go is the Johnson landslide – the thing he most prizes but dare not speak of.

 

In other words, the Conservatives want to scare people, especially Brexit Party voters and Labour Leavers, into giving them a landslide – a 100 plus majority. Labour also talks up how easily they could deprive the Tories of their majority (as in 2017), for similar reasons – to gather momentum. The Lib Dems try to make out they are still on track to hold the balance of power, as they fantasised when Jo Swinson made her historic blunder of granting Johnson his early election.

 

The more we look at it, the more the 2017 contest was sui generis, a reflection of Theresa May’s extraordinarily poor campaign, and we are now witnessing a reversion to an older norm. Almost every election since the Second World War has been characterised by two things: that the polls hardly shift during the campaign and, closely connected, that all the noise and tumult is mere background. People make their minds up years before.

 

The truth, I suppose, is that we have been in a virtual non-stop election campaign ever since the inconclusive 2017 poll. The voters are well aware of the personalities and arguments. Johnson and Sturgeon have been around for years and we are familiar with them; Corbyn is no longer this slightly startling man of principle: the more we have come to know him, the dodgier some of his views have become. Swinson, meantime, has pulled off the remarkable trick of growing less impressive the more the public see of her, whereas Sturgeon, Angela Rayner, Caroline Lucas and Rebecca Long-Bailey have been stars in a lacklustre scene.

 

Most people in this country can barely remember a Tory government with a parliamentary majority big enough for it to do whatever it liked. Many were not even born. It was last seen at the 1987 election, when Margaret Thatcher won her third contest with a majority of 102. I predict the same this time, even given all the social changes over the past 30 years. In which case, you should get used to the idea of a Johnson-led government of cronies and toadies.

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