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Of course, it goes without saying that I am THRILLED we have a presdient capable of the job back in office. Biden won't be able to solve the problems in America, but he can only do more good than Trump has done and it will begin to see things turn in the right direction.
Come on folks, even you who hate Trump have to admit that his Presidency has been rather colourful and he has given us some good laughs. Can't see there being another quite like him again. He's a character and that's why he won. Wasn't enough this time.

 

Rings of steel now thrown around Biden and Harris by the Secret Service and air-space over his home town of Delaware has just been closed down.

You're right!

 

Locking kids in cages and separating them from their parents? Absolutely hilarious.

Raping numerous women and being suspiciously close with paedophile Jeffrey Epstein? Classic, very presidential.

Taking away rights from LGBT and especially trans youth? What a legend. No one quite like him.

Being so inept at handling a pandemic that 230k+ die because he believes the virus is a hoax made to hurt his chances at re-election? So freakin' funny, gave me some GOOD laughs.

 

What a character.

 

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Can't wait to see what fun antics he gets up to in jail.

Of course, it goes without saying that I am THRILLED we have a presdient capable of the job back in office. Biden won't be able to solve the problems in America, but he can only do more good than Trump has done and it will begin to see things turn in the right direction.

 

 

No offence but nobody knows how good a President will be before they take office. There's no real training for it and you don't get a go beforehand. You learn on the job as Trump did.

His presidency has been an absolute disaster, it has added fire to the racists, it has divided and ripped apart immigrant families for nothing more than wanting a better life, it has made people less safe, it has seen significant erosions of democracy, decency and electoral impartiality. It has sown the seeds for a new generation of fascists and will not be going away any time soon. He has made it that people challenge objective fact - which by it's very definition is devoid of bias - and given people the confidence to write their own versions of reality which they then impose on others. He has undermined global stability, cosying up to dictators and despots and has wasted 4 vital years in the fight against climate chaneg. The wounds Trump has inflicted on the US and the world will not go away quickly and, as with so many of these things, will not be felt most keenly by those who inflicted them.

 

That there will hopefully never be another Trump should be the greatest testament to the last 4 years - elect someone totally unsuitable for the job, you end up with a mess. You reap what you sow indeed.

 

Absolutely all of this. It would have been far better for the world had Trump never been elected. And that his movement was able to hijack populist feeling against establishment politics into the racism, fascism and denying reality has just delayed help getting to the people who need it most - many may have even voted Trump with good intentions, thinking he was the answer to years of two-party politics letting them down - but he immediately betrayed them by cosying up to rich donors even more than Democrat counterparts would have. And his network inundated them with lies so that to this day, they don't even see it.

 

Evil man, I'm ecstatic he's out of office.

Biden's job is going to be very difficult to really achieve lots of things but we should look at the different angle, at least the orange thing will be stopped from changing laws, taking human rights and I can go and on and on.
I did not type what dhwe has supposed to have quoted so please remove it or will ask a mod to.
No offence but nobody knows how good a President will be before they take office. There's no real training for it and you don't get a go beforehand. You learn on the job as Trump did.

 

I didn't say Biden would be a good president, simply that he is capable of fulfilling the role. Being capable means you can still fail. Trump was neither capable, nor a good president. The only thing Trump learned in his time in office is that he wasn't cut out for it and had to lie and con people at every turn to try and deflect from his failings.

I see Biden only doing one term, if that even. He may hand over to Harris before 2024 so she's President to seek re-election. Certainly can't see him seeking a second term.
I didn't say Biden would be a good president, simply that he is capable of fulfilling the role. Being capable means you can still fail. Trump was neither capable, nor a good president. The only thing Trump learned in his time in office is that he wasn't cut out for it and had to lie and con people at every turn to try and deflect from his failings.

 

 

Trump was reportedly as surprised as anyone when he won and reportedly said "Oh sh*t" when he finally knew. Don't think he even really wanted the job but couldn't very well step down when he'd been elected.

Trump was reportedly as surprised as anyone when he won and reportedly said "Oh sh*t" when he finally knew. Don't think he even really wanted the job but couldn't very well step down when he'd been elected.

 

Which is exactly the problem with Trump. He ran for the most important office in the land (and one of the most important in the world) because of ego. Rightly or wrongly Biden (and HRC in 2016) ran because they wanted to make a difference. Regardless of where you stand on their politics, that's a better platform to run on than simply to pad your own self importance.

Congratulations America finally the nightmare of Trump as president is OVER! I feel quite emotional about it and it's not even my country there must be tons of Americans absolutely sobbing their eyes out with joy right now.

 

So happy USA is going to get a 'human' president now. Trump can return to the darkness where he belongs. :w00t:
No offence but nobody knows how good a President will be before they take office. There's no real training for it and you don't get a go beforehand. You learn on the job as Trump did.

I see no signs that Trump has learned anything about how to be president in the last four years.

Or be a decent person.

I am not a Trump fan and he is clearly a President who is more about short termism and living in denial. However clearly with a lot of people (rightly or wrongly) he was very popular. I can see his appeal and the illusion he creates. The problem is when you are the most important man in the world you need to have a sense of humilty, grace etc. - I have no issue with Republicans in general, but the lies and myths he created with the nu-right are downright dangerous and ill-found. I'm glad social media and the world has cottoned on to these facts as there are a lot of people who believe them, when there is little to none factual truth or evidence to them.

 

If anything the Biden administration should be around trying to correct the wrongs of the Trump administration. I'd be shocked if he ran in 2024, he has said as much but I guess power can make people do silly things. In slightly more selfish news, hopefully this will balance the UK back to normality instead of flirting with the tactics the Trump administration used.

I can definitely see the appeal - I think he tapped into a very real sense of fear among a lot of people in the US, very similar to how Brexit resonated here - where the world has changed around people and they either haven't been able to adapt or haven't wanted to adapt. Obviously there are myriad reasons for this, not least social and education depravation but I disagree that the Republican party itself isn't partly to blame for Trump. They created the environment in which he flourished, he was extremely successful in that respect of identifying and exploiting those fears. The Democrats are of course to blame too, Obama let a lot slide during his time, especially on the state level and it allowed for the almost vice like grip Republicans have on so many states which have created the very processes Trump is now railing against in many cases.

 

It's a very tough line for Biden to walk - rolling back what Trump did is a key priority, but he also needs to educate and bring people along with him. It's going to be difficult given he will almost certainly have a deeply hostile Republican senate, but it isn't going to be good enough to reinforce the ACA, for example, without actually convincing people it benefits them or else we will end up in this cycle of shit again in 4 years, or 8 years or whenever we next have a Republican in the white house.

 

The media also need to look very closely at themselves. There's going to be a lot of self-congratularoty patting on the back now, but they need to accept that they created Trump. Social media absolutely plays a role too and that's a whole other battle, but the media gave Trump a platform, star billing and played his lies over and over and over again - thereby reinforcing them.

As I said earlier, even if he runs in 2024 I can't see him getting the Nomination. I think they'll go for Nikki Haley then. Pence won't get it either.
As much as I’m happy this has happened I can’t shake the feeling everything will go horribly wrong soon. Or perhaps it’s just something I’ve learned to expect given the last 4 years of chaos.
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