What a f***ing baby.

What a f***ing baby.

If this doesn't make people believe he doesn't care about the country then I don't know what will. If he had he would fight for it until the end. Now the perception is that he only cares about himself and the power that this position can provide him and him alone. If anyone can name a more pathetic selfish "human" "being" please go ahead, I'm all ears.

a new challenger enters the ring:

 

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How serious will this end up being? Limited in some ways, the deadline to file as an independent has already passed in a number of states, if he's going to follow it through and do more than a publicity stunt and campaign this might drag away a decent number of non-engaged votes, quite possibly aimed at splitting the black vote because we know he's expressed MAGA sentiments before.

He's not running.

 

(Says the fellow who confidently stated in 2015 that Donald Trump was only running for president as a publicity stunt to promote his latest series of The Apprentice).

I hope nothing will come of it, but it really worries me that it will capture the attentions of younger people and those begrudgingly voting for Biden, the parallels to Trump when he first announced he was running are too big. Although saying that, I think he endorsed Trump before.

I hope nothing will come of it, but it really worries me that it will capture the attentions of younger people and those begrudgingly voting for Biden, the parallels to Trump when he first announced he was running are too big. Although saying that, I think he endorsed Trump before.

 

He’s definitely endorsed Trump before so I really wouldn’t understand why anyone who doesn’t want to vote for Trump would then vote for him. :huh:

At this point if this somehow makes Trump win in the end then America really deserves him as the president

Democrats unite behind Biden.

 

From NY Times.

 

Joe Biden has emerged from a contested Democratic primary with surprising party unity and without any serious threat on his left flank, according to New York Times/Siena College polls of the six battleground states likeliest to decide the presidency.

 

Over all, voters in the battleground states who said Bernie Sanders was their top choice for president said they backed Mr. Biden over President Trump, 87 percent to 4 percent. If there was a Bernie-or-Bust movement, it has either faded with the conclusion of the Democratic race, or it never existed in serious numbers in the battleground states.

 

Mr. Biden commands even more significant support from voters who supported Elizabeth Warren in the primary. The Democrats who said she was their top choice to be the Democratic nominee backed Mr. Biden over Mr. Trump by a staggering margin of 96 percent to 0 percent — even wider than Mr. Biden’s 96-1 lead among those who said he was their top choice in the Democratic primary.

 

 

West has now admitted that he's never in his life voted before and doesn't really support Trump this time but certainly doesn't like Biden or want him to oust Trump.

 

I still can't see him standing if I'm honest.

Democrats unite behind Biden.

 

From NY Times.

 

Joe Biden has emerged from a contested Democratic primary with surprising party unity and without any serious threat on his left flank, according to New York Times/Siena College polls of the six battleground states likeliest to decide the presidency.

 

Over all, voters in the battleground states who said Bernie Sanders was their top choice for president said they backed Mr. Biden over President Trump, 87 percent to 4 percent. If there was a Bernie-or-Bust movement, it has either faded with the conclusion of the Democratic race, or it never existed in serious numbers in the battleground states.

 

Mr. Biden commands even more significant support from voters who supported Elizabeth Warren in the primary. The Democrats who said she was their top choice to be the Democratic nominee backed Mr. Biden over Mr. Trump by a staggering margin of 96 percent to 0 percent — even wider than Mr. Biden’s 96-1 lead among those who said he was their top choice in the Democratic primary.

 

The relevant numbers for that:

 

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Looks like we shouldn't have been listening to toxic centrist Klobuchar supporters, they're enabling Trump by not getting the candidate they wanted, #Amyorbust will doom the Democrats.

 

Anyway, flippancy aside, looking good for Democrat unity, the only moral choice for the left/Bernie supporters is to vote out this fascism at its roots so that is an encouraging poll.

West has now admitted that he's never in his life voted before and doesn't really support Trump this time but certainly doesn't like Biden or want him to oust Trump.

 

I still can't see him standing if I'm honest.

 

Is he allowed to run? Following his recent mental breakdown...

Joe Biden has published a plan to revive the US economy. In the same breath, Trump has criticised it for being "radical left" (a very and thing in his eyes) and for being a copy of his own (as yet unpublished) plan.

god I WISH Biden and the Democrats were as far left as the Republican hivemind think they are

 

Biden's economic plan has some serious holes (manufacturing is not coming back to the American Midwest), but it'll come across as mostly mature and achievable from a quick read of it, and I would doubt Trump has anything better.

Was gonna say that lol 'left' in America means conservative in a European context 😂

Poll in Texas today has Biden 5 points up on Trump

 

If Trump loses Texas he's toast and indicates a possible Biden landslide.

Poll in Texas today has Biden 5 points up on Trump

 

If Trump loses Texas he's toast and indicates a possible Biden landslide.

Interesting. I'd take that with a rather large dose of salt but if it's accurate then Trump will be humiliated in November. Fingers crossed.

Remember, people didn't think Trump would win in 2016. I did but not a lot gave him a chance. He was the underdog and is now but let's see what happens. The campaign proper hasn't started yet or the debates.

Remember, people didn't think Trump would win in 2016. I did but not a lot gave him a chance. He was the underdog and is now but let's see what happens. The campaign proper hasn't started yet or the debates.

 

I seem to remember everyone was very much aware of the danger and praying it wouldn’t happen. Wanting him to win and expecting him to win are two different things.

Remember, people didn't think Trump would win in 2016. I did but not a lot gave him a chance. He was the underdog and is now but let's see what happens. The campaign proper hasn't started yet or the debates.

 

Nothing is absolute of course and I could get proven wrong in a few months...

 

but there are a number of good reasons to assume this will not play out the same way as 2016.

 

- Clinton was far more unpopular across the country for better or worse, Biden is really not, and has been maintaining good approval ratings, in comparison to Trump's that are among the worst of any sitting president

 

- Related to that, some people broke for Trump because he was an unknown quantity. He has not shown any signs of expanding his base on anything other than 'a good economy' which is now gone, which means that undecideds will very likely break away from him now they know exactly what he's about.

 

- Biden is doing well in important states according to all the models, I'd say Minnesota, Michigan and Pennsylvania are more likely than not to go Democrat and there are signs that Florida and even Texas are now tossups. Very hard for the Republicans to get a route to victory like that.

 

- Polls at the corresponding time in 2016 were a lot closer than they are now, there were a few national polls in which Trump was ahead or chasing Clinton's tail very closely. She never had a consistent lead of more than 5 points at this point (she did better in October but that's debate territory) and was equal or behind in some, Biden is consistently leading Trump by close to 10 points and his worst in the past 3 weeks is +4.

 

- Trump has no argument at the debates. What can he point to that won't get overshadowed by his awful pandemic response? I suspect he will actually pull out because it's the method least likely to lose him support.

 

The only major reason in Trump's favour is that he has far more institutional power to cheat this time around, which... yeah....

 

In summary, the polls are much better to Trump's opponent this time and he has no consistent route back, at least democratically.

Nothing is absolute of course and I could get proven wrong in a few months...

 

but there are a number of good reasons to assume this will not play out the same way as 2016.

 

 

 

In summary, the polls are much better to Trump's opponent this time and he has no consistent route back, at least democratically.

 

 

I agree and that's what the US press is virtually saying. Someone compared it to Brexit and 2017 here but then another columnist said no, he feels this is different and more like 2019 here and Trump's set to lose. This feels different with Biden opening up huge leads in some areas and states, even Texas, and him seemingly having the momentum right now.