March 20, 20214 yr The tories know it would only take a small change to make the snp look like they lost the mandate hence the past few months. Reminds me a lot of the 2014 ref campaign when the English media saw the poll showing independence ahead in mid September all the supermarkets etc coming out with scare mongering at the unionists request
March 22, 20214 yr Apparently Tories are planning to hold a no confidence vote on Wednesday if Nicola doesn't resign on Tuesday. Salmond is also going to release a statement on this on Wednesday too. @1373931995684814851 It's honestly disgusting the treatment showing here, I think it's the first time I've felt this passionate since the referendum, the polls are showing independence lead increasing too, it's just a shame that she could be forced out by the end of the week.
March 22, 20214 yr If the report clears her (not the biased committee one but the independent one) then I have a feeling that this will backfire spectacularly on the Tories and just Fire up the base. Actually tbh either way I have a feeling this will not end well for the Scottish Tories and Unionist Tories of various other shades which apparently seems to include a former SNP First Minister now (whos conduct i ain’t dignifying by naming him)
March 22, 20214 yr There hasn't actually been much said on the English media about this, at least not yet. If any politician breaks the Ministerial Code as a matter of principle they should resign. However more and more, cross-party wide we are seeing politicians breaking the code but not resigning. More of a general point about politicians, but anyway in this context unless it's really, really bad then I suspect Sturgeon will hold her ground and ride the backlash out. It's been a proven tactic to work recently so I suspect no matter what party allegiance, MPs will do it as once the dust settles people find something else to vent their anger at.
March 22, 20214 yr There hasn't actually been much said on the English media about this, at least not yet. If any politician breaks the Ministerial Code as a matter of principle they should resign. However more and more, cross-party wide we are seeing politicians breaking the code but not resigning. More of a general point about politicians, but anyway in this context unless it's really, really bad then I suspect Sturgeon will hold her ground and ride the backlash out. It's been a proven tactic to work recently so I suspect no matter what party allegiance, MPs will do it as once the dust settles people find something else to vent their anger at. I’ve lost count of the number of Tories that have broken it since the 2019 election alone and yet all remain in post. And DRoss hasn’t called for a single one of them to resign. Same for Labour. As such every single hypocritical utterance should be viewed through this lens. But the media won’t do that because they, like Tories/Unionists (at this point in Scotland there is no difference. You’re either Green, SNP or a Tory c**t), have an agenda to push that involves keeping the unicorn in chains
March 22, 20214 yr And she's cleared :cheer: Whether it's enough to put the SNP back in the position of getting a majority remains to be seen - I think the recent poll dip is vaccine related and this saga fell on party lines.
March 22, 20214 yr I’ve lost count of the number of Tories that have broken it since the 2019 election alone and yet all remain in post. And DRoss hasn’t called for a single one of them to resign. Same for Labour. As such every single hypocritical utterance should be viewed through this lens. But the media won’t do that because they, like Tories/Unionists (at this point in Scotland there is no difference. You’re either Green, SNP or a Tory c**t), have an agenda to push that involves keeping the unicorn in chains That's because it's the whole "do as I say, not as I do" :lol: It does really wind me up a lot about politicians in the current climate, too many career focused politicians and not enough looking after the man in the street. But as soon as the man in the street comes on they get ridiculed (and before anyone has a go at me, Corbyn was not the man in the street!).
March 22, 20214 yr The Greens are expected to support Nicola when Tories vote for no confidence! Scottish Greens co-leader Patrick Harvie said his party would not support the Conservatives' vote of no confidence in the first minister. “In lodging a vote of no confidence before this report was published, just as they called for the first minister's resignation before she even gave evidence to the parliamentary committee, the Tories have shown that they have no interest in establishing the truth," he said. Mr Harvie said James Hamilton had clearly concluded that Nicola Sturgeon did not breach the ministerial code. He said the independent report "retains credibility in this process, unlike the parliamentary committee which has repeatedly sabotaged its own authority and betrayed the trust of original complainers".
March 22, 20214 yr Tories are completely going to self implode before the elections aren’t they. I wonder if the media will say Nicola is innocent then ?
March 22, 20214 yr The Schadenfreude I feel right now is off the f***ing Charts This is the best possible outcome. It makes whatever the committee report and Salmond have to say extremely easy to paint as what they Are, partisan smears designed to attack and bring down a powerful woman. It’s hard to think of a bigger open goal the Tories could have scored with the leaks from the committee but then they go an call for a vote of no confidence on the back of a report they haven’t seen that says exactly the opposite of what they had decided it should say. Absolute clownery. How can any right minded person look at the Scottish Tories and think „yup, that’s the Party for me“. Useless c**ts couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery with instructions and help from brewery staff
March 22, 20214 yr And she's cleared :cheer: Whether it's enough to put the SNP back in the position of getting a majority remains to be seen - I think the recent poll dip is vaccine related and this saga fell on party lines. Yeh the tories won’t care as long as it effects them in the election and means they can argue against another referendum and put that to end. They are tories they don’t work on facts after all!
March 22, 20214 yr Am f***in buzzing this stitch up has just utterly collapsed in on itself. I feel for the complainants who have been utterly betrayed by the unionist members of that committee going on a witch hunt to bring down a powerful woman for the actions of her male predecessor.
March 22, 20214 yr I never suspected she was guilty, what a massive shitstorm over nothing, Sturgeon's not perfect, but she is still very competent. I'm hoping she can ride whatever 'backlash' remains and support for independence remains strong. I don't even fully get the whole thing, it's just so, so transparent that it's been taken advantage of by the Tories to attempt to keep Scotland and the Media have happily played along.
March 22, 20214 yr I never suspected she was guilty, what a massive shitstorm over nothing, Sturgeon's not perfect, but she is still very competent. I'm hoping she can ride whatever 'backlash' remains and support for independence remains strong. I don't even fully get the whole thing, it's just so, so transparent that it's been taken advantage of by the Tories to attempt to keep Scotland and the Media have happily played along. The Spectator and Andrew Neil (from his luxury villa second home in France) were the ones pushing this months ago! The mainstreams just followed like sheep.
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