Something that amused me is that 'Think About Things' is #5 in Ireland! Though streams in general there are quite small of course

Stan culture originated in rap music, Gaga transferred the culture to pop music, both are of equal worth and weighting.

 

Lady Gaga did not transfer Stan culture to pop music. Before Lady Gaga existed, people like Madonna and especially Britney Spears had VERY obsessive fans. Even the likes of Kelly Clarkson and Leona Lewis and the various girl groups before her did. Certainly people like Kylie.

 

If you saw what Avril Lavigne stans were doing on YouTube back in 2007 and 2008... Or even Britney stans for that matter lol (LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE!!!).

 

I don't know why Lady Gaga keeps getting credited for things that happened before she existed? It's ridiculous.

 

Your post makes other good points though.

The lack of actual knowledge and understanding in this post is quite embarrassing. Travis Scott, a rapper, has got 2 recent #1s in the US by selling bundles and encouraging multi-buy purchases from his obsessive stans. Stan culture originated in rap music, Gaga transferred the culture to pop music, both are of equal worth and weighting.

 

The desperation you talk of is also most notable in rap music or R&B music (see Beyoncé's feature on Savage, Nicki appearing everywhere). But when pop stars do it, it is desperate? And if you had any ounce of knowledge on the background of this song, and the deep depression that it was borne out of from the two artists involved who have used the song to channel the pain and wash it away, you'd know it IS desperate: but desperate to recover and mend their minds, not desperate for success.

 

Music is subjective so your comments on "only listening to it because of curiosity or the names" shows just how small minded your outlook is. How sad.

 

Pop music will never be low brow, no matter how hard people try to make it.

 

Well said!! Shut that hater down.

actually something I read the other day, not even sure if it's possible

Drake has had something like 125 hits in the US that are collaborations,

either him as lead including a feature or him as featured

And Travis Scott's latest hit under his name was a solo song.

!!!

Lady Gaga did not transfer Stan culture to pop music. Before Lady Gaga existed, people like Madonna and especially Britney Spears had VERY obsessive fans. Even the likes of Kelly Clarkson and Leona Lewis and the various girl groups before her did. Certainly people like Kylie.

 

If you saw what Avril Lavigne stans were doing on YouTube back in 2007 and 2008... Or even Britney stans for that matter lol (LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE!!!).

 

I don't know why Lady Gaga keeps getting credited for things that happened before she existed? It's ridiculous.

 

Your post makes other good points though.

 

True but Gaga was influential when it came to naming fanbases. Before Monsters I don't think the likes of Army, Navy, Beyhive, Katy Cats, Lambs etc existed officially but correct me if I'm wrong. :kink:

!!!

 

You've all been warned x

 

True but Gaga was influential when it came to naming fanbases. Before Monsters I don't think the likes of Army, Navy, Beyhive, Katy Cats, Lambs etc existed officially but correct me if I'm wrong. :kink:

Yeah I definitely get Eric's points but this was mainly what I was referring to. The shift to online stan culture that we see now on Twitter etc. Obviously stans have existed long before but there was a definite shift with the birth of the "monsters".

 

This article explains it really well and is worth a read in my opinion: https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/pakq59/l...urce=reddit.com

I know it's not the main point being made, but I'd just like to say: Lambs pre-date Monsters by at least 10 years :cool:

 

Stream Mariah Carey - Glitter now!

I know it's not the main point being made, but I'd just like to say: Lambs pre-date Monsters by at least 10 years :cool:

 

Stream Mariah Carey - Glitter now!

 

I know it's not the main point being made, but I'd just like to say: Lambs pre-date Monsters by at least 10 years :cool:

 

Stream Mariah Carey - Glitter now!

i’ll pass :wacko:

i’ll pass :wacko:

Spotify Chart Update (22/05)

 

01 01 DaBaby – Rockstar (feat. Roddy Ricch) 505,233

02 NE Lady Gaga & Ariana Grande – Rain On Me 472,715 [*NEW PEAK*]

03 94 KSI – Cap (feat. Offset) 375,746 [*NEW PEAK*]

04 02 The Weeknd – Blinding Lights 366,782

05 15 KSI – Houdini (feat. Swarmz & Tion Wayne) 344,344

06 194 KSI – Killa Killa (feat. Aiyana-Lee) 337,140 [*NEW PEAK*]

07 104 KSI – What You Been On 335,177 [*NEW PEAK*]

08 03 Drake – Toosie Slide 317,775

09 148 KSI – Bad Lil Vibe (feat. Jeremih) 309,682 [*NEW PEAK*]

10 04 Saint Jhn – Roses (Imanbek Remix) 305,797

 

11 188 KSI – Domain [*NEW PEAK*]

12 NE KSI – Millions [*NEW PEAK*]

13 05 S1mba – Rover (feat. DTG)

14 06 Powfu – Death Bed (Coffee For Your Head) (feat. Beabadoobee)

15 NE KSI – Undefeated [*NEW PEAK*]

16 NE KSI – How It Feel [*NEW PEAK*]

17 07 Lil Mosey – Blueberry Faygo

18 08 AJ Tracey – Dinner Guest (feat. MoStack)

19 10 Ariana Grande & Justin Bieber – Stuck With U

20 09 Dua Lipa – Break My Heart

 

21 117 KSI – Down Like That (feat. Rick Ross, Lil Baby & S-X)

22 151 KSI – Poppin (feat. Lil Pump & Smokepurpp) [*NEW PEAK*]

23 NE The 1975 – Tonight (I Wish I Was Your Boy) [*NEW PEAK*]

24 11 Aitch & AJ Tracey – Rain (feat. Tay Keith)

25 149 KSI – Wake Up Call (feat. Trippie Redd)

26 12 Nathan Dawe – Flowers (feat. Jaykae)

27 13 Joel Corry – Lonely

28 14 Dua Lipa – Don't Start Now

29 17 6ix9ine – Gooba

30 16 The Scotts – The Scotts

 

31 20 Megan Thee Stallion – Savage Remix (feat. Beyoncé) {#16 combined}

32 28 Harry Styles – Watermelon Sugar

33 19 Roddy Ricch – The Box

34 18 Tones and I – Dance Monkey

35 21 Doja Cat – Say So (feat. Nicki Minaj) {#10 combined}

36 25 Topic – Breaking Me (feat. A7S)

37 22 Benee – Supalonely (feat. Gus Dapperton)

38 NE The 1975 – Nothing Revealed / Everything Denied [*NEW PEAK*]

39 26 Lewis Capaldi – Someone You Loved

40 NE The 1975 – Roadkill [*NEW PEAK*]

 

41 24 Doja Cat – Say So

43 29 220 Kid & Gracey – Don't Need Love

44 30 JP Saxe – If The World Was Ending (feat. Julia Michaels)

45 23 Harry Styles – Adore You

49 140 The 1975 – If You're Too Shy (Let Me Know)

50 37 StaySolidRocky – Party Girl

52 34 Doja Cat – Boss Bitch

58 39 Little Mix – Break Up Song

59 36 Sam Fischer – This City

64 41 Jack Harlow – Whats Poppin

65 42 PartyNextDoor – Believe It (feat. Rihanna)

67 48 Surf Mesa – ily (I Love You Baby) (feat. Emilee)

69 44 Don Toliver – After Party

71 61 Daði Freyr – Think About Things

75 147 Niko B – Who's That What's That [*NEW PEAK*]

82 NE Aitch – Raw [*NEW PEAK*]

87 55 Regard & Raye – Secrets

91 54 Drake – Chicago Freestyle (feat. Giveon)

94 NE Gunna – Wunna [*NEW PEAK*]

99 NE Gunna – Dollaz On My Head (feat. Young Thug) [*NEW PEAK*]

 

101 60 Marshmello & Halsey – Be Kind

104 65 Juice WRLD – Righteous

110 95 Katy Perry – Daisies

111 66 Robbie Doherty & Keees. – Pour the Milk

112 NE Agust D – Daechwita [*NEW PEAK*]

118 75 Melanie Martinez – Play Date

120 80 Madison Beer – Selfish

123 79 Ava Max – Kings & Queens

124 NE Fredo – Hickory Dickory Dock [*NEW PEAK*]

130 87 Kygo – Like It Is (feat. Zara Larsson & Tyga)

135 91 Sam Smith – I'm Ready (feat. Demi Lovato)

138 NE Kygo – The Truth (feat. Valerie Broussard) [*NEW PEAK*]

151 96 Hosh & 1979 – Midnight (The Hanging Tree) (feat. Jalja)

153 NE Disclosure – Energy [*NEW PEAK*]

158 103 Twenty One Pilots – Level of Concern

161 82 Kygo – Lose Somebody (feat. OneRepublic)

173 NE Sia – Together [*NEW PEAK*]

175 154 SL – Bad Luck

176 115 Headie One – Rose Gold

182 NE Ellie Goulding – Power [*NEW PEAK*]

186 RE Sleepy Hallow – Deep End Freestyle

188 197 Machine Gun Kelly – Bloody Valentine

197 116 Future – Solitaires (feat. Travis Scott)

 

xx 127 Jubël – Dancing In The Moonlight (feat. Neimy)

xx 150 Martin Solveig & Roy Woods – Juliet & Romeo

xx 152 Chris Brown & Young Thug – Go Crazy

xx 166 Polo G – Flex (feat. Juice WRLD)

xx 167 Mist – House Party (feat. Fredo)

xx 168 Jonas Brothers – X (feat. Karol G)

xx 173 Kygo – Freedom (feat. Zak Abel)

xx 190 jxdn – Angels & Demons

 

+++

 

Albums

 

KSI

3. Cap (feat. Offset)

5. Houdini (feat. Swarmz & Tion Wayne)

6. Killa Killa (feat. Aiyana-Lee)

7. What You Been On

9. Bad Lil Vibe (feat. Jeremih)

11. Domain

12. Millions

15. Undefeated

16. How It Feel

21. Down Like That (feat. Rick Ross, Lil Baby & S-X)

22. Poppin (feat. Lil Pump & Smokepurpp)

25. Wake Up Call (feat. Trippie Redd)

 

The 1975

23. Tonight (I Wish I Was Your Boy)

38. Nothing Revealed / Everything Denied

40. Roadkill

42. Yeah I Know

46. Then Because She Goes

47. I Think There's Something You Should Know

49. If You're Too Shy (Let Me Know)

53. The End (Music For Cars)

57. Frail State Of Mind

61. Me & You Together Song

62. The Birthday Party

63. Shiny Collarbone

66. Streaming

68. What Should I Say

72. Playing On My Mind

74. Jesus Christ 2005 God Bless America

81. People

84. The 1975

85. Guys

86. Don't Worry

90. Having No Head

95. Bagsy Not In Net

 

Gunna

94. Wunna

99. Dollaz On My Head (feat. Young Thug)

105. Top Floor (feat. Travis Scott)

106. Cooler Than A Bitch (feat. Roddy Ricch)

107. Argentina

129. Blindfold (feat. Lil Baby)

145. Met Gala

148. MOTW

149. Gimmick

159. Feigning

164. Nasty Girl / On Camera

166. Addys (feat. Nechie)

195. Skybox

 

Agust D

112. Daechwita

165. What Do You Think?

187. Moonlight

192. Strange

Yeah I definitely get Eric's points but this was mainly what I was referring to. The shift to online stan culture that we see now on Twitter etc. Obviously stans have existed long before but there was a definite shift with the birth of the "monsters".

 

This article explains it really well and is worth a read in my opinion: https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/pakq59/l...urce=reddit.com

 

That article is so worth reading!

 

I’ve watched so many live performances from before Gaga was famous, I have several dvd collections of artists from before her time too and not once have I ever seen or heard anyone name their fans anything other than “my incredible fans” until Gaga had her little monsters and that’s not just an opinion of mine I’d say it’s a borderline fact we were the fast fanbase with our own name :lol:

looks like KSI are big dropping on Apple, all tracks down at least 20 places, same for the 1975

Disclosure *.*

Expected drops for KSI and 1975. KSI still has 3 songs top 20 though

Gaga and Ari hold at #2 with strong numbers still.

Edited May 24, 20205 yr by LMLou

Brilliant for Gaga to stay at #2!