Michael Gove was saying earlier that he doesn’t want masks being made mandatory in shops. My response to that is that he can piss off

Why on Earth would he say that? It goes against what the who say!

Why on Earth would he say that? It goes against what the who say!

Because he’s an idiot who doesn’t want to wear a mask and theres also a lot of people who are vowing not to wear them saying it damages their lungs. I’d rather breathe through a mask than a ventilator

Because they’re just testing out public reactions to wearing masks before they actually make a decision on it. They’ve done it with literally everything they’ve decided since the pandemic begun. Boris wears a mask the day before Gove slaps ‘British Common Sense’ on it and they see what the reactions are and find out which is more popular. This is how the government works. They don’t lead us, we lead them. It’s a mess.

He was also calling for masks not to be made mandatory on public transport. If Boris decides to make masks mandatory in buildings, it will encourage more people to go to their local shop, supermarket or indoor shopping centre etc. instead of living in fear. People who are complaining about masks should see what it’s like in China. Over there, they even have to wear masks outdoors

Edited July 12, 20204 yr by Hadji

confuse the message -> blame the people

Yet another case of us being ridiculously slow despite clear scientific evidence pointing to the fact it will help us. The simple fact is no one is going to wear them unless they are mandatory, it is utterly pointless 'asking' them to wear them. I can count on two hands the number of people I saw wearing a mask when I went to the supermarket last week. Cases are going down here which is a positive, but precaution is still needed, well done to Gove for yet again showing that all this government thinks about is money.

I thought I’d try my local supermarket for the first time in a while. I only counted 3 people wearing masks, the ones who weren’t kept getting in my face. I was even on the verge of ramming my trolley into them for breaking distancing rules and trying to get in my face. This is why I prefer getting deliveries to save hassle. Where I live, cases are very low and I wanna keep it like that

I don't think the Government are trying to blur the message on purpose, I fully believe that the Cabinet are just at odds with themselves. Personally I am against making them mandatory in all enclosed public spaces, but if they are made mandatory I can live with that. I find the cotton re-usable ones really uncomfortable, but the proper PPE masks are absolutely fine. My own personal opinion is that it is probably too late to implement in England now, I think they missed the opportunity when the shops opened mid-June.

I get people might find them uncomfortable but we’re talking shops and public transport here, the hope is you would be inside either one for an extensive amount of time. And you can use scarves and bandanas too which would probably be more comfortable. I really can’t see how anyone can be against it.

 

When this is all over and it turns out masks are useless then no one would have lost anything in wearing one. If it turns out they’re very effective then not using one could be harmful to others.

 

What I’m trying to say is it wouldn’t hurt the government to make them mandatory. Unless they’re concerned about losing the selfish gammon vote.

It's pitifully weak communication from the government, absolutely inexcusable and it further cements the case for independence in Scotland because they just see the administration there doing a far better job.

 

 

I get people might find them uncomfortable but we’re talking shops and public transport here, the hope is you would be inside either one for an extensive amount of time. And you can use scarves and bandanas too which would probably be more comfortable. I really can’t see how anyone can be against it.

 

When this is all over and it turns out masks are useless then no one would have lost anything in wearing one. If it turns out they’re very effective then not using one could be harmful to others.

 

What I’m trying to say is it wouldn’t hurt the government to make them mandatory. Unless they’re concerned about losing the selfish gammon vote.

 

The problem is though, why make it mandatory now when we've all been going to the supermarkets and shops for months? Are people going to be encouraged or discouraged to go shopping now (and this fuel the economy). It's all stuff which should have been done months ago, it's much harder to get the engagement here.

 

 

 

The problem is though, why make it mandatory now when we've all been going to the supermarkets and shops for months? Are people going to be encouraged or discouraged to go shopping now (and this fuel the economy). It's all stuff which should have been done months ago, it's much harder to get the engagement here.

Belgium has done this yesterday and practically everyone wore a mask. A lot understand that it is needed to keep the virus at it's low platteau that it is at now. Sure it would've been better to announce it directly, but we keep discovering more about this virus every day. The airborne spread has only been confirmed like a week ago or so! Now would be THE time to announce it

I get people might find them uncomfortable but we’re talking shops and public transport here, the hope is you would be inside either one for an extensive amount of time. And you can use scarves and bandanas too which would probably be more comfortable. I really can’t see how anyone can be against it.

 

When this is all over and it turns out masks are useless then no one would have lost anything in wearing one. If it turns out they’re very effective then not using one could be harmful to others.

 

What I’m trying to say is it wouldn’t hurt the government to make them mandatory. Unless they’re concerned about losing the selfish gammon vote.

 

 

I agree 100% with Trump that whilst it may help to contain the virus it should still be up to each individual to decide and shouldn't be forced upon people. He does talk a lot of sense at times, if not always. Civil rights and not being told what to do by the Government. Here's the US leader agreeing with that viewpoint.

Belgium has done this yesterday and practically everyone wore a mask. A lot understand that it is needed to keep the virus at it's low platteau that it is at now. Sure it would've been better to announce it directly, but we keep discovering more about this virus every day. The airborne spread has only been confirmed like a week ago or so! Now would be THE time to announce it

 

Oh don't get me wrong - I think if England got told to wear a mask, most would wear it. It's a hard rule to police 100% though as realistically if you don't wear a mask you're not going to get fined etc.

Around here you can't enter any stores if you don't wear a mask, you get offered one at the entrance and if you refuse we will call the police on ur ass and get you a €350 fine 🤷‍♂️

The problem is though, why make it mandatory now when we've all been going to the supermarkets and shops for months? Are people going to be encouraged or discouraged to go shopping now (and this fuel the economy). It's all stuff which should have been done months ago, it's much harder to get the engagement here.

 

But that’s just it, we’re now being encouraged to go out all the time so masks would be ideal if we’re serious about keeping the virus at bay. Supermarkets aside, we were being told to stay at home months ago.

 

Better late than never I say.

But that’s just it, we’re now being encouraged to go out all the time so masks would be ideal if we’re serious about keeping the virus at bay. Supermarkets aside, we were being told to stay at home months ago.

 

Better late than never I say.

 

But the bigger is people are stupid. The amount of times I've seen people not wear masks properly, constantly touch their face to adjust the mask etc. etc. even pick their nose whilst weating a mask- people feel safer, but then some of the basic hygiene rules go out of the window. I think the counter argument is people then take more risks if they are wearing a mask in Western society and the messaging about social distancing (which is a much more effective measure) gets blurred.

But the bigger is people are stupid. The amount of times I've seen people not wear masks properly, constantly touch their face to adjust the mask etc. etc. even pick their nose whilst weating a mask- people feel safer, but then some of the basic hygiene rules go out of the window. I think the counter argument is people then take more risks if they are wearing a mask in Western society and the messaging about social distancing (which is a much more effective measure) gets blurred.

 

But we’re only talking about shops and public transport. If we had to take people’s stupidity into account for everything, we’d never get anything done. We definitely wouldn’t be able to hold elections. The government need to take a solid stance on this but won’t. They’re trying to preemptively shirk blame.

But the bigger is people are stupid. The amount of times I've seen people not wear masks properly, constantly touch their face to adjust the mask etc. etc. even pick their nose whilst weating a mask- people feel safer, but then some of the basic hygiene rules go out of the window. I think the counter argument is people then take more risks if they are wearing a mask in Western society and the messaging about social distancing (which is a much more effective measure) gets blurred.

 

..and yet the advice about public transport is perfectly clear. A lot of the high street shops around here, particularly the independent ones are impossible to socially distance within, I feel like it is a huge dereliction of duty to not protect staff in a sector of the economy that is going to be hard hit for the next 12-18 months. There is unlikely to be a vaccine and we are unlikely to eradicate it, so until it mutates into a much weaker strain we will have to get used to wearing masks a lot more.

 

The point about being more complacent is a valid one, and I think the case needs to be made that masks don't reduce YOUR risk but those around you (and indirectly yours if everyone wears one). It is an entirely selfless altruistic act not a selfish one to wear one, and it only succeeds with near 100% compliance.