Posted May 23, 20214 yr Should they or shouldn’t they? With the BBC having struck a deal with BMG to collaborate on our entries, the possibility must have been discussed and may even be on the table for 2022..?! What’s everybody’s thoughts about it? Would you like to see them try? If they had entered this year with something off WTFH (can’t be Something In Your Eyes or Father’s Eyes as they are covers), what song do you think could have earned us some points?
May 23, 20214 yr There was an exchange on Twitter today! H said Steps should do it. Faye responded and said she’s happier to watch
May 23, 20214 yr I couldn’t envisage Steps doing well on the televote sadly as their style of pop isn’t what does well in the contest at all these days. A really strong track like What The Future Holds or Heartbreak In This City could I’m sure have picked up an ok jury score but I think they’d struggle to get out of the bottom seven or eight songs overall. I can’t imagine any scenario that they’d end up in the top ten.
May 23, 20214 yr I'd rather they avoided it. I feel like the cons of them doing it outweigh the pros, unfortunately.
May 24, 20214 yr They'd most likely do better than our recent entries on Eurovision but isn't there some sort of stigma attached to it? The alternate is that it gives them the exposure they need and they become a worldwide phenomenon again :lol:
May 24, 20214 yr I don't think they'd do especially well but I'd be very on board with them doing it anyway, it would be nice to have another act that are actually famous and have chart success in the UK. Even if they don't do well, I don't see what they have to lose from it? They're already seen as 'so Eurovision' in the UK and mentioned every year (along with now the Frock Destroyers) as THE act that should do it, they would surely continue getting top 5 albums and sell-out UK tours afterwards.
May 24, 20214 yr I dont see what they would have to loose from it, as they are essentially a UK and Ireland act now anyway which would probably mean their entry would get well known in both countries and give them some chart success and exposure which can do them no harm. Eurovision doesnt seem to go for Steps type of pop but they could probably do enough to get a top 20 finish at Eurovision at the worst,.their existing fans wont turn their back on them if they didnt do well. Edited May 24, 20214 yr by Feel_The_Fever
May 24, 20214 yr There was an exchange on Twitter today! H said Steps should do it. Faye responded and said she’s happier to watch Thank god for Faye :wub:
May 24, 20214 yr I think it's a big no from me. They have kind of built up a semi-respectable reputation as a legacy act in the UK now. Anyone going to Eurovision is seen as a joke in the UK and they don't need to damaged what they have managed to build on their reputation in their come back. If Eurovision was still like it used to be in the 90's and before then I'd be all for it as they could at least get good exposure in Europe and get a hit single / album out of it, however it's not as Europe hates us and won't give us the time of day on the show. Blue didn't do too bad out of it I guess but then again they didn't do well out of it either. I must admit though I could have seen them rocking Flying the flag as cheesy as it is. :lol:
May 24, 20214 yr I have a different opinion, i don't think Europe hates the UK, it might not be the most popular country but countries like Russia for example are far more hated but they do well at Eurovision. I genuinely think its to do with the music, for example embers this year wasn't the worst song in the competition but it was one of the weakest and it wasn't strong enough to encourage people to vote for the song. The Europe hates the UK is a story muted for the last 20 years now but when the right is sent people will support it which we seen with Jade Ewan for example and Blue did reasonaably well too. Ireland have the same problem, the songs for the most are not strong enough and both need to look at the selection process and send songs with a more European appeal. If Steps did do it, they need a really strong pop song such as Scared of the Dark or a really good ballad.
May 24, 20214 yr You'd think Steps were this credible, real music act given some of the responses.. They are not above Eurovision. FFS if they're going to cover songs that took part in the Swedish selection process, they might as well give it a go and perhaps have one of those songwriters pen them an entry!
May 24, 20214 yr I have a different opinion, i don't think Europe hates the UK, it might not be the most popular country but countries like Russia for example are far more hated but they do well at Eurovision. I genuinely think its to do with the music, for example embers this year wasn't the worst song in the competition but it was one of the weakest and it wasn't strong enough to encourage people to vote for the song. The Europe hates the UK is a story muted for the last 20 years now but when the right is sent people will support it which we seen with Jade Ewan for example and Blue did reasonaably well too. Ireland have the same problem, the songs for the most are not strong enough and both need to look at the selection process and send songs with a more European appeal. If Steps did do it, they need a really strong pop song such as Scared of the Dark or a really good ballad. The whole "Europe hates the UK" sentiment is such nonsense indeed :lol: Look at Russia and Israel for example, countries that always do way better and certainly have a lot more problems compared to the UK. Embers completely bombed in the UK, so if British people don't even support their own entry, how can you expect people picking up their phone to vote for it? It was just a weak song, like basically every song the UK sends these days. I'd LOVE for Steps to do Eurovision. I think their music and style would fit it very well, don't think they would win, but it could be such a moment for them. Even if they did become last, I can't see that doing any harm as their fans would still support them. It could only give them some extra attention, especially from European people who were kids when they had some success in mainland Europe. And as much as I adore Steps, let's not pretend they are seen as a very credible music act by most people. So I cannot see how they could be 'above Eurovision' at all.
May 24, 20214 yr I agree and i said this in the Eurovision thread, the Uk dont even support their own entries (Ireland the same) so how can we expect Europe to support the songs but all that could change with a really good song. For the UK its not about winning any more its about coming in on the left hand side of the scoreboard, for Ireland its simply just to qualify for the final and both would be happy with these outcomes for now and if they can get on track then a win looks more possible. This is where Steps could fit in nicely and bridge that gap thats so badly needed. Im by no means putting Jedward in the same category as Steps but look at the buzz Jedward got around their lipstick entry and they benefited from doing Eurovision so it would be possible to turn it in to a more positive than negative experience. Edited May 24, 20214 yr by Feel_The_Fever
May 24, 20214 yr The whole "Europe hates the UK" sentiment is such nonsense indeed :lol: Look at Russia and Israel for example, countries that always do way better and certainly have a lot more problems compared to the UK. Embers completely bombed in the UK, so if British people don't even support their own entry, how can you expect people picking up their phone to vote for it? It was just a weak song, like basically every song the UK sends these days. I'd LOVE for Steps to do Eurovision. I think their music and style would fit it very well, don't think they would win, but it could be such a moment for them. Even if they did become last, I can't see that doing any harm as their fans would still support them. It could only give them some extra attention, especially from European people who were kids when they had some success in mainland Europe. And as much as I adore Steps, let's not pretend they are seen as a very credible music act by most people. So I cannot see how they could be 'above Eurovision' at all. It was certainly not the weakest song of the night by far there was some absolute utter tosh that managed to get a few votes from the juries or the public. There’s no way not one person liked the song at all yet liked that rubbish that Germany sent for example… there is 100% some political bias going on throughout the entire show, it’s obvious when the same countries give them highest points to the same other countries every… single… year. I just think it’s hilarious personally. The main reason for steps not being part of Eurovision is because most of the content is utter tosh, steps don’t need the association.
May 24, 20214 yr It was certainly not the weakest song of the night by far there was some absolute utter tosh that managed to get a few votes from the juries or the public. There’s no way not one person liked the song at all yet liked that rubbish that Germany sent for example… there is 100% some political bias going on throughout the entire show, it’s obvious when the same countries give them highest points to the same other countries every… single… year. I just think it’s hilarious personally. The main reason for steps not being part of Eurovision is because most of the content is utter tosh, steps don’t need the association. Well that's just personal preference, isn't it? I for one did enjoy the German song more than Embers which I honestly think was by far the weakest song and performance of the evening (and no, I'm definitely not a UK "hater"). Like I said, the British public themselves didn't exactly root for Embers either, with it bombing in the charts, so how could you expect other countries to like it? The political bias is also far less relevant than people always say; there was actually a Dutch research done last week that proved countries rarely win because of political biases and it's more a myth than an actual fact. And again, you saying the content is "utter tosh" is another personal preference. Basically everyone has said this year was one of the strongest events in years with a lot of actual, genuine good songs and acts. Quite a lot who would be considered a lot more as serious or critically acclaimed artists than Steps. So I think they would fit right in.
May 24, 20214 yr Well that's just personal preference, isn't it? I for one did enjoy the German song more than Embers which I honestly think was by far the weakest song and performance of the evening (and no, I'm definitely not a UK "hater"). Like I said, the British public themselves didn't exactly root for Embers either, with it bombing in the charts, so how could you expect other countries to like it? The political bias is also far less relevant than people always say; there was actually a Dutch research done last week that proved countries rarely win because of political biases and it's more a myth than an actual fact. And again, you saying the content is "utter tosh" is another personal preference. Basically everyone has said this year was one of the strongest events in years with a lot of actual, genuine good songs and acts. Quite a lot who would be considered a lot more as serious or critically acclaimed artists than Steps. So I think they would fit right in. Fair points well made… apart from Germany that really was one of the worst songs I’ve ever heard in my life! 🤣 Ps I love your Sugababes sig it’s gorgeous! ❤️
