The previous total we knew was 1,611,165 on 13th November 2020. The increase from that to 1,625,400 is 14,235 sales in 103 weeks, meaning that its average sales per week are 138 - presumably that's almost entirely streaming sales each week.

 

At least it should get some trickle sales with the physical formats now, assuming they'll keep them in print.

 

Why Spice World hasn't been in print on CD is beyond me...

Edited November 11, 20222 yr by tommie

Them promoting streaming it the week after release is so odd. I cant get my head round that at all?

 

Nice to have an updated figure for Spiceworld (looking at the positive).

embarrassing

It isn't embarrassing. It is a 25 year old album that has already sold 1.6m copies. No one bar a tiny amount of internet gays will ever even know where it charted this week or care. Sad for fans it didn't do better, sure, but it really means nothing in the grand scheme. They can still sell out a world tour tomorrow or get booked at Glastonbury.

 

Universal will only care if it made money (which it probably still has when you think how expensive the formats are).

I'd say it's kind of embarrassing in and of itself. For Universal at least. Out of every Spice Girls album release there's ever been, group and solo (and I'll count these "25" projects as being separate albums because they've had multi-formats) this has the second lowest weekly sales... only above L.A. State of Mind lol.

 

Sure they can brush this one under the carpet, but... this is one of the biggest reissue/anniversary failures of recent times.

 

 

 

Just to make matters worse but the CD currently isn't able to be pre-ordered on Amazon. It's changed to "Temporarily out of stock". Only third party sellers have the picture disc on there now too. :thinking:

SW 25 got what it deserved. One of the worst anniversary editions of an album that I've seen. Not paying the original photographers for HQ scans and using live tracks ripped from YouTube is embarrassing.

 

Forever 25 will probably be just as bad. If Universal and the girls didn't put any effort into SW 25, why would they course correct with their least celebrated album. They will probably just release Woman and that's it. I don't see them releasing many of the pop songs from Forever.

Again I don't look at it like that and I'm not sure 99% of people would. It is like saying Spice25 flopped compared to Life in mono which had double the first week sales of Spice25.

 

It is a reissue that had its biggest selling singular format delayed. Sure a higher chart position would have been nice but honestly only about 9 of us even care.

 

The OCC have socials about how a 1997 Spice girls album is back in the vinyl top 10. You can paint this however you want. First time Spice has been top 100 since spring 1999, even after ROTSG, Olympics, SW19 it didn't do that.

I think this just goes to show you that the public wants one iconic album re-released and one alone.

 

 

 

The OCC have socials about how a 1997 Spice girls album is back in the vinyl top 10. You can paint this however you want. First time Spice has been top 100 since spring 1999, even after ROTSG, Olympics, SW19 it didn't do that.

I mean even in this week's chart we see that The Prodigy are back in the Top 20 with their 1997 album, and that had just one new format to its name, one vinyl.

 

We can sugarcoat Spiceworld in as many different ways as we like, but I think it's very hard to deny that #46 and barely over 2,000 is pretty bad going for it and disappointing for those who care about charts and the possibility of future Spice Girls releases. I think it would be a fair assessment that the majority of us did not anticipate it missing the Top 40 before the release week came, we had higher expectations and they weren't met in quite spectacular fashion. Maybe the majority of people won't care, but then you could say the majority of people don't care who is at #1. It's mainly about those who do care. Will Universal really be satisfied with this result? We won't know until it becomes apparent that they don't bother doing anything like this again. My suspicion is that Universal didn't commission this 25th anniversary album with the thought of "it would be great if this could make it into the Top 50 at the most".

SW 25 got what it deserved. One of the worst anniversary editions of an album that I've seen. Not paying the original photographers for HQ scans and using live tracks ripped from YouTube is embarrassing.

 

Forever 25 will probably be just as bad. If Universal and the girls didn't put any effort into SW 25, why would they course correct with their least celebrated album. They will probably just release Woman and that's it. I don't see them releasing many of the pop songs from Forever.

 

It's that old expression: you reap what you sow. I completely agree that this re-issue was anything but a celebration; for an album that literally has a title that represents the global domination by the Spice Girls, SW25 was not the T. Is not the T. And never will be the T. Garbage in, garbage out. I'm only upset by this as a devoted fan who wanted more for this album because it deserved more. The SGs don't give a shit about this project, clearly.

 

And how ironic: I thought SPICE 25 was a letdown in terms of the CD2 tracklisting but honestly, in hindsight, SPICE 25 is a goldmine compared to SW25. At least the former had quality audio.

 

There's no excuse.

 

Shame on Universal.

 

I don't believe for a second that the SGs handpicked any of the tracks on CD2 of SW25.

 

Melanie C is such a perfectionist. She would have vetoed those poor quality live tracks.

 

All they probably chose was WHICH songs to feature as live tracks on CD2. Meanwhile the Istanbul recordings are collecting cookies in a folder on a hard drive somewhere in an office in Santa Monica or the Netherlands.

Edited November 11, 20222 yr by Equinox8

I'm honestly bitter about Universal's handling over this project, it's been so shoddy. I suppose the early warning sign was the ridiculous 11 week gap between the initial teaser and the announcement of the formats. Maybe it was at that stage that we should have known how this "anniversary celebration" was going to pan out.

 

I'm certainly not revelling in how this album has been handled, or celebrating the bad chart position - far from it - I'm actually gutted about it. I truly feel that the album deserved to be much better handled, and believe that it easily could have been. The team responsible for this, in my humble opinion, did not have the level of passion or understanding in the Spice Girls required to create a release that was befitting of its importance in the world of pop music.

 

It's weird to me because there's been comments over the years from the Spice Girls themselves proclaiming that they are super concerned about their own legacy and protecting it at all costs. 'Spiceworld 25' as a project, from the artwork, to the formats, to the audio quality, to the track list, to the promotion of it... has not been a great endeavour for the legacy at all, it's been handled like they're some C list artist with cheaply done "this will do" reissues being considered enough. It's not enough!

 

The best we can say for Spiceworld 25's performance is that it'll likely go pretty unnoticed, but isn't that in itself a rather damning response to what is one of the most successful albums of all time? People just not caring? And those who do care mostly feel so let down. The number of people I read saying they were passing on buying any of it. That certainly reflects in the #46 position and 2,000-ish sales.

 

One positive to come from this for me is just like Equinox8 says, that in hindsight Spiceworld 25 does actually make Spice 25 seem so much better. Now don't get me wrong, that album had its issues, but one thing that it had going for it is that it came across "professionally", like the CD2 had release standard audio quality, they tidied up the demos nicely.

 

 

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I played around on Photoshop because I wanted to see what Spiceworld 25 would look like if they used the "space background" that they've used as their Spotify header and in social media videos.

 

I am far from being a Photoshop expert so I'm a bit nervous to show off my work, but this is really just a concept, not trying to be perfect. Anyway if you click it, it links to a bigger image!

 

I don't believe for a second that the SGs handpicked any of the tracks on CD2 of SW25.

 

Melanie C is such a perfectionist. She would have vetoed those poor quality live tracks.

 

All they probably chose was WHICH songs to feature as live tracks on CD2. Meanwhile the Istanbul recordings are collecting cookies in a folder on a hard drive somewhere in an office in Santa Monica or the Netherlands.

This is a interesting point to bring up. It makes perfect sense when you think about it. The girls probably don't even know the Universal team used low quality live tracks. Someone should mention this to Mel C. Her reaction will be very telling.

I played around on Photoshop because I wanted to see what Spiceworld 25 would look like if they used the "space background" that they've used as their Spotify header and in social media videos.

 

I am far from being a Photoshop expert so I'm a bit nervous to show off my work, but this is really just a concept, not trying to be perfect. Anyway if you click it, it links to a bigger image!

 

Absolutely love that cover you made :wub:

Thank you Maz *.* :wub:

I'm honestly bitter about Universal's handling over this project, it's been so shoddy. I suppose the early warning sign was the ridiculous 11 week gap between the initial teaser and the announcement of the formats. Maybe it was at that stage that we should have known how this "anniversary celebration" was going to pan out.

 

I'm certainly not revelling in how this album has been handled, or celebrating the bad chart position - far from it - I'm actually gutted about it. I truly feel that the album deserved to be much better handled, and believe that it easily could have been. The team responsible for this, in my humble opinion, did not have the level of passion or understanding in the Spice Girls required to create a release that was befitting of its importance in the world of pop music.

 

It's weird to me because there's been comments over the years from the Spice Girls themselves proclaiming that they are super concerned about their own legacy and protecting it at all costs. 'Spiceworld 25' as a project, from the artwork, to the formats, to the audio quality, to the track list, to the promotion of it... has not been a great endeavour for the legacy at all, it's been handled like they're some C list artist with cheaply done "this will do" reissues being considered enough. It's not enough!

 

The best we can say for Spiceworld 25's performance is that it'll likely go pretty unnoticed, but isn't that in itself a rather damning response to what is one of the most successful albums of all time? People just not caring? And those who do care mostly feel so let down. The number of people I read saying they were passing on buying any of it. That certainly reflects in the #46 position and 2,000-ish sales.

 

One positive to come from this for me is just like Equinox8 says, that in hindsight Spiceworld 25 does actually make Spice 25 seem so much better. Now don't get me wrong, that album had its issues, but one thing that it had going for it is that it came across "professionally", like the CD2 had release standard audio quality, they tidied up the demos nicely.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I played around on Photoshop because I wanted to see what Spiceworld 25 would look like if they used the "space background" that they've used as their Spotify header and in social media videos.

 

I am far from being a Photoshop expert so I'm a bit nervous to show off my work, but this is really just a concept, not trying to be perfect. Anyway if you click it, it links to a bigger image!

 

 

In agreement with all of this, and yes I love your cover :wub:

Yeah I think at the end of the day, the team who handles the girls at Universal did not care for our girls. When SW19 was happening, they just dropped a picture disc vinyl and that’s it. They didn’t even capitalize on it. With Spice25, The logo and the scanned pictures were not up to standard, but at least it seemed the tracklist itself was agreed by the girls themselves (even we don’t like it we can respect it). This time around, they dropped the ball on everything, the tracklist, the art from fans’ scanned work (not getting or paying directly the original photographers’ work) and the ripped live tracks from YouTube quality. They would have definitely sold more if they released the vinyl in five individual covers again because at the end of the day that’s what collectors collect.

At least we can finally stop shouting into the wind to have Step to me on streaming platforms #positives

What are the chances we will get a "thank you" tweet hinting at #Forever25? :thinking:

 

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Stranger things have happened but if I was putting on a bet id say no.

What are the chances we will get a "thank you" tweet hinting at #Forever25? :thinking:

 

@1456682731287502849

 

They were so overwhelmed with the support that they did f*** all for Spiceworld25 :rolleyes: