The teams were recently fairly unanimous in their refusal to allow dispensation for Herta to be granted a license but not against a review of the rules. Red Bull are looking to circumvent this by getting the FIA to grant full points for his 2018 season and then running him in FP1 in as many races as possible this season, then place him in a race seat at Abu Dhabi.

 

Which might be the only way he accrues the 40 points needed.

 

The rules were brought in to prevent anyone as young as Verstappen was getting a license at that age again and there were also many against Raikkonen getting a license when he did and yet both turned out perfectly good enough. The teams are capable of policing themselves and you'd be hard pressed to find someone worse than Mazepin.

 

Herta is currently outdriving Grosjean, Rossi, Ericsson and Sato, who were all deemed worthy of a license once.

 

 

 

In other news, Hamilton will start the Italian GP from the back after requiring a new engine

Edited September 8, 20222 yr by Severin

The rules were brought in to prevent anyone as young as Verstappen was getting a license at that age again and there were also many against Raikkonen getting a license when he did and yet both turned out perfectly good enough. The teams are capable of policing themselves and you'd be hard pressed to find someone worse than Mazepin.

 

Herta is currently outdriving Grosjean, Rossi, Ericsson and Sato, who were all deemed worthy of a license once.

Precisely... The teams should be the judge of who gets a seat. Does it matter that Verstappen was 16? He was clearly competitive already.

 

Raikkonen was older, but surely if a team wants to take the risk, and the driver has done the testing mileage, it should be the teams call. If they want to chase money/branding (and end up with a Ricardo Rosset or Yuji Ide) that's their call - the 107% rule will stop them from racing. 🤷‍♂️ I can't see the likes of Ferrari or Mercedes opting for a pay driver anyway

 

That being said, Indycar should (almost undoubtedly) be somewhere between F1 and F2 in the open wheel motorsport ladder... It's silly that their drivers have such an uphill battle to get superlicense points!

That 107% rule was/is nonsense. I remember many times during 2010-2012 the 3 backmarker teams failing to reach it yet the drivers were still allowed to race.

 

It is funny that Verstappen & Raikkonen got the most criticism when starting for their lack of experience and they're 2 of the greats.

That 107% rule was/is nonsense. I remember many times during 2010-2012 the 3 backmarker teams failing to reach it yet the drivers were still allowed to race.

 

It is funny that Verstappen & Raikkonen got the most criticism when starting for their lack of experience and they're 2 of the greats.

The way to make it not nonsense is to enforce it 😂 I think the only exception should be if the driver was consistently within 107% of top free practice time (minimum number of laps set across all sessions/and a majority within the top time of the session) and they were not able to set a (competitive) lap time through no fault of their own - due to traffic (where another driver was penalised), retirement (would say exclude driver error, but that seems beyond the line to me), problem with the car (that can be evidenced), or an extreme circumstance (like a track invader)!

 

Apparently I have opinions on this 🙈🙈🙈

Porsche have confirmed that they will not be entering F1 with Red Bull, leaving it unlikely they will enter the sport, although the company maintains the door is still open for the future.

 

Personally, I was curious to see what was in it for Red Bull as they certainly don't seem to be struggling and don't need the iupheaval

With confirmation that the race this weekend will go ahead, Monza really has quite the track record (pun intended) of being the race directly after huge global news/events. Princess Diana's death, 9/11 and now this year.

Verstappen, Perez, Sainz, Hamilton, Tsunoda and Bottas will all take grid penalties in relation to new parts on the car - Tsunoda has a further grid drop for his reprimand last weekend.

 

 

Starting to be obvious that grid penalties are not a sufficient deterrent to force teams in to abiding by the cost cap and that it may have to come to points deductions or a severe time penalty.

Shall we all have a sweepstake on what lap Max will take the lead then? I'm going lap 20.

 

In all seriousness I SENSE a Russell victory. I can just vision it, such a poignant moment, God Save The Queen playing out on Sunday. Monza is also the track for shock wins, Berger in 1988, Vettel in 2008, Gasly and Ricciardo in the past 2 years. There's just something about that place...

 

Edit: Just remembered Frentzen in 1999, Montoya in 2001 as well!

Edited September 9, 20222 yr by Dobbo.

Even if Russell wins it won't be God Save the Queen playing. The song is now officially God Save the King and was the moment she died

Touché!

In terms of the racing I do think it really is a case will Leclerc be quick enough to hold off Verstappen and whether Sainz can delay Max if he manages to get in front of him at any point.

 

I really want a Ferrari home win this weekend

rooting for Leclerc this weekend, Ferrari needs to show a bit of recovery

 

 

I would say there’s a 0% chance of Merc winning while both Ferraris and both red bulls are in the race. They’re just too weak in a straight line to not be a sitting duck on the main straight

 

 

Monza has always been a popular track for engine changes because of its ease to overtake

Alonso has more chance of winning than a Merc does

Edited September 9, 20222 yr by Severin

Alex Albon will miss Qualifying and the GP due to appendicitis. Nyck De Vries will replace him

Italian Grand Prix Review

 

Best driver:

Worst driver:

Best team:

Worst team:

Best overtake:

Worst overtake:

Best moment:

Worst moment:

Best thing about the race:

Worst thing about the race:

 

And the race in a sentence:

Aston Martin have become the 6th team to record a double DNF in 2022.

 

The #IalianGP was Aston Martin's first double retirement since their championship debut at the 1959 Dutch Grand Prix and the team's first since the 2020 Bahrain Grand Prix as Racing Point.

Best driver: Nyck De Vries (although Verstappen was immaculate again and Sainz was strong)

Worst driver: Latifi

Best team: Red Bull

Worst team: Aston Martin

Best overtake: Schumacher on Latifi but a shout out to Lewis for some smart opportunism

Worst overtake: Gasly outbraking himself

Best moment: Seeing the Tifosi back in full

Worst moment: Ricciardo;s McLaren being stuck in gear

Best thing about the race: Monza, and impressive debut and another great drive from the champion elect

Worst thing about the race: A number pf pundits suggesting the race should be red flagged 'for the show' when they know full well the rules don't work that way

 

And the race in a sentence: All over bar the shouting

sack Latifi and get DeVries!

And sack the person who decided the race had to finish with the safety car x 6 laps

Best driver: De Vries [sensational performance jumping in at the eleventh hour]

Worst driver: Latifi [the guy has done well to carve out a 50+ race career]

Best team: Ferrari [can't give it to RB cos Perez was nowhere]

Worst team: Aston Martin [car go pop, car go pop]

Best overtake: Schumacher on Latifi

Worst overtake: Magnussen cutting the first corner and overtaking like 5 cars illegally [this was an F1 online lobby move]

Best moment: Lap 1

Worst moment: Ricciardo retiring [not only did he deserve some points this week it was a little too late to get the race restarted]

Best thing about the race: After Ferrari won at the Red Bull ring, it's only fitting that Red Bull won at Monza

Worst thing about the race: Safety car finish [but that's still the CORRECT PROCEDURE *see below*]

 

And the race in a sentence: Max wins number eleven, Tifosi certainly aren't in heaven

 

 

*And that really annoyed me re the discussion about the safety car. How it panned out was exactly how it should do. Some races finish under the safety car, tough f***ing shit. It happened many times prior to last year's FARCE, even 2 championship deciders finished under SC conditions (2009 and 2012). No one seemed to remind anyone about that. And you don't just throw a red flag either for the lols, it has to warrant it like with Baku last season. What would have been unjust would have been Charles stealing an undeserved win when, without any stoppage, he'd have finished some 20+ seconds behind Max.