Well good to have that confirmed I guess although 'What Else Can I Do?' would be entering regardless so a rather curious decision x (unless they meant that they don't want 'Surface Pressure' to drop out?)

I think that's definitely coming, I knew from the moment I first heard the song.

 

He was described in court earlier this week as a music "magpie" who borrows ideas from other artists but only credits them if they're hugely successful, and to be fair I'm willing to believe there are grains of truth in that. I guess we'll see what the outcome is of this case, though.

 

Yep, and the problem isn't borrowing per se, it's that he never credits them voluntarily. Everyone uses samples but they also credit them.

Edited March 10, 20223 yr by Sour Candy

Still not found out wired Sunday update

No. Give ME strength for having to read your continually tiresome Ed-bashing posts.

 

How very dare you!!!!

I’d totally be here for some Dave and Ed Sheeran beef. Ed must be fuming that he’s been sat at number two for all this time. But he’ll probably not start cos Dave would destroy him.

In reality what will actually happen is that Ed will be pleased to see his friend Dave getting another #1 single, while also being slightly disappointed that Peru gets blocked at #2 yet again. Pretty much exactly what Dave would've been feeling last year when Clash was blocked at #2 by Bad Habits. The idea of any kind of beef happening between the 2 is ridiculously far-fetched lol.

In reality what will actually happen is that Ed will be pleased to see his friend Dave getting another #1 single, while also being slightly disappointed that Peru gets blocked at #2 yet again. Pretty much exactly what Dave would've been feeling last year when Clash was blocked at #2 by Bad Habits. The idea of any kind of beef happening between the 2 is ridiculously far-fetched lol.

 

You are obviously underestimating how OBSESSED Cheesy fad is with the charts and being no.1. This is a man who sent the sausage roll people ha christmas song for them to remix it in a desperate bid to stop them stopping him getting to no.1 x

 

Source: OCC

 

Guess we know the answer now. :P

Thanks for finding that out, but as Robbie pointed out it seems to contradict the OCC’s own rules that the song to be excluded can’t be in the Top 20. Is that one of those flexible rules that can be ignored if inconvenient? :unsure:

That's what most OCC 'rules' are it feels like :lol: (I think they do or did have a rule that songs can't get a manual reset while they are still in the top 100 as well which has been totally ignored).

Thanks for finding that out, but as Robbie pointed out it seems to contradict the OCC’s own rules that the song to be excluded can’t be in the Top 20. Is that one of those flexible rules that can be ignored if inconvenient? :unsure:

 

Makes me wonder why they didn't use "Surface Pressure", the track is on 10 weeks. My guess the label chose the lowest track, as "Surface Pressure" was still inside the top 10, that's the way I'm reading into it. Unless someone else can shed more light on it

Edited March 10, 20223 yr by Mart!n

I wonder how much behind surface pressure the next Encanto song is, would be good to see another one chart with surface pressure continuing to drop, but not sure how far behind the next one is.

The 5th highest Encanto song on Spotify today ('Waiting On A Miracle') is on 55k streams compared to 'Surface Pressure' being on 66k after being halved so a little way off based on that, I don't think we'll see any others entering unless a new TikTok trend for one of the other songs blows up or something.

Waiting On A Miracle and Dos Oruguitas are very close to each other on overall streams because the English and Spanish versions of the latter have been combined by the OCC. They’re both less than half Surface Pressure though. They should ask for the latter to be excluded too.

Gutted "Head On Fire" isn't Top 40 :(

Yep, and the problem isn't borrowing per se, it's that he never credits them voluntarily. Everyone uses samples but they also credit them.

 

What’s the difference? Does the Charli XCX song be looked at at nodding to the song they sampled with the ‘Cry For You’ in the title while Ed just has used the Smalltown Boy sample and hasn’t asked permission, I assumed it was well documented at the single release?

 

Also love how people on here are making assumptions about Ed’s feelings about Peru ONLY being no2 for 5 weeks and just repeating it as fact :lol: . Also it’s like Peru is an Ed song by the way people talk on here when it’s not his song lol.

It's funny how outside of Buzzjack most people think Levitating is the clearest case of plagiarism. Go check on YouTube which is a far larger and more representative of the general public. On here it's like a parallel universe with people saying the opposite. :lol: Yeah, it's a song on SoundCloud that had 100 views, but it's the same in every way, even down to some of the lyrics which is the biggest giveaway. Only thing that is different is fewer synths in the original. Most likely one of her songwriters stumbled across it once or heard it online or on TikTok or on a jukebox in an alternative bar or something and forgot about hearing the song and ended up thinking it's something he came up with. So it might be accidental, but they're too similar to be completely separate creations and you come off as delusional if you claim they're nothing alike.

 

In pretty much every of these court cases I can always hear the similarities, and pretty much every song I hear in general reminds me of something else. When I first heard Levitating I thought it sounded like 24k Magic by Bruno Mars and Stayin Alive by the Bee Gees, but it's only "similar" to them, no big deal that case.

 

As far as Ed Sheeran goes, I think his song which is most similar to another song is Thinking Out Loud with the Marvin Gaye song. I remember years ago I heard the Marvin Gaye song being played on Big Brother and it took me about half a minute to realise it wasn't Thinking Out Loud. At least with Bad Habits and Bronski Beat, whilst very similar, you can tell the difference (or at least I can). No Scrubs and Shape Of You are similar as well, although I had to hear them side by side to notice it but there's a vocal melody in them which is almost identical and it's a lengthy one too. I remember when Shape Of You came out it got widespread comparisons to Cheap Thrills I guess mostly because the synths are similar but those kinds of synths were in hundreds of pop songs for a few years. The New Shape Of You case, that song is similar too. Although in this case I think it's within the realms of possibility they are independent creations, although it's true the song is like a slowed down Shape Of You in a few ways (not just the "Oh aye, oh aye, oh aye" bit although that is the most prominent similarity).

I was sure dolly Partons album would be safe top 10 contender this week.

Edited March 11, 20223 yr by Feel_The_Fever

It's funny how outside of Buzzjack most people think Levitating is the clearest case of plagiarism. Go check on YouTube which is a far larger and more representative of the general public. On here it's like a parallel universe with people saying the opposite. :lol: Yeah, it's a song on SoundCloud that had 100 views, but it's the same in every way, even down to some of the lyrics which is the biggest giveaway. Only thing that is different is fewer synths in the original. Most likely one of her songwriters stumbled across it once or heard it online or on TikTok or on a jukebox in an alternative bar or something and forgot about hearing the song and ended up thinking it's something he came up with. So it might be accidental, but they're too similar to be completely separate creations and you come off as delusional if you claim they're nothing alike.

 

In pretty much every of these court cases I can always hear the similarities, and pretty much every song I hear in general reminds me of something else. When I first heard Levitating I thought it sounded like 24k Magic by Bruno Mars and Stayin Alive by the Bee Gees, but it's only "similar" to them, no big deal that case.

 

As far as Ed Sheeran goes, I think his song which is most similar to another song is Thinking Out Loud with the Marvin Gaye song. I remember years ago I heard the Marvin Gaye song being played on Big Brother and it took me about half a minute to realise it wasn't Thinking Out Loud. At least with Bad Habits and Bronski Beat, whilst very similar, you can tell the difference (or at least I can). No Scrubs and Shape Of You are similar as well, although I had to hear them side by side to notice it but there's a vocal melody in them which is almost identical and it's a lengthy one too. I remember when Shape Of You came out it got widespread comparisons to Cheap Thrills I guess mostly because the synths are similar but those kinds of synths were in hundreds of pop songs for a few years. The New Shape Of You case, that song is similar too. Although in this case I think it's within the realms of possibility they are independent creations, although it's true the song is like a slowed down Shape Of You in a few ways (not just the "Oh aye, oh aye, oh aye" bit although that is the most prominent similarity).

There was a second lawsuit against Levitating to do with a song called "Don Diablo" but it was a huge reach which is what people are referring to on here.

 

That SoundCloud song by an obscure white reggae band obviously does have similarities to Levitating but it's very unlikely that it was deliberate if that song had less than 100 plays on SoundCloud after many years before TMZ broke the story.

I think in any case, plagiarism is a word with strong connotations of ill intent. I highly doubt any major label artists/producers/songwriters are genuinely plumbing the depths to steal ideas and hope no one notices like a high schooler who copy/pastes Wikipedia paragraphs. It unfortunately gains traction because people are so intent on bringing [artist] or modern music era down a peg that they'll latch onto anything to support their case. At best what might have happened is that someone heard a song, forgot about it, and then subconsciously had elements pop into their head in tandem without identifying any source. I can maybe believe it in the Matt Cardle case. Otherwise there are only so many chord sequences that sound pleasant to human ears and if everyone works towards the same goal, you're bound to independently have some similar approaches or just coincidences. Just like how there were like 10 songs called "Circles" in 2019-2020, or how there were two games called Outer W___ds released 5 months apart involving space exploration in a first person perspective, or how Leibniz & Newton both independently invented calculus at roughly the same time. If you select 200 random living people there is about a 50% chance that two of them will have been born on the same day and year. Coincidences just happen, and I'd rather not miss out on more music from artists I like because they're scared it'll be linked to something that already exists. As fun as it is to say 'ha, that Radiohead song's coda sounds exactly the same as that Slowdive song', there's no need to get lawyers involved.

There was a second lawsuit against Levitating to do with a song called "Don Diablo" but it was a huge reach which is what people are referring to on here.

 

That SoundCloud song by an obscure white reggae band obviously does have similarities to Levitating but it's very unlikely that it was deliberate if that song had less than 100 plays on SoundCloud after many years before TMZ broke the story.

Yeah that’s my feelings on it really. I’ve seen theories go around that demos might have been passed around her label (as tbf they have been high on some smaller Billboard charts before), but seems like a bit of a stretch.

 

Though btw, two members of the band are not white.