Posted April 12, 20223 yr I’ve been listening to Lover a lot again over the last couple of weeks and it has got me thinking about what my ideal single release schedule would have looked like. I mean, when you listen to the album as a whole, it has such depth and those single choices don’t make sense to me at all. My ideal would definitely have been different. Below are the single releases - with peaks -for each era since the Red era. Apologies if I’ve got the order for Reputation wrong - it’s a bit confusing :lol: Were you happy with the single choices? Would you have released them in this order? What would your ideal era have looked like i.e. Single 1 = Single 2 = Single 3 = Single 4 = Red: Single 1 = We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together - 4 Single 2 = Begin Again - 30 Single 3 = I Knew You Were Trouble - 2 Single 4 = 22 - 9 Single 5 = Everything Has Changed - 7 Single 6 = Red - 26 Single 7 = The Last Time - 25 1989: Single 1 = Shake It Off - 2 Single 2 = Blank Space - 4 Single 3 = Style - 21 Single 4 = Bad Blood - 4 Single 5 = Wildest Dreams - 40 Single 6 = Out of The Woods - 136 Single 7 = New Romantics - 132 Reputation: Single 1 = Look What You Made Me Do - 1 Single 2 = …Ready For It - 7 Single 3 = End Game - 49 Single 4 = Gorgeous - 15 Single 5 = Delicate - 45 Lover: Single 1 = Me - 3 Single 2 = You Need To Calm Down - 5 Single 3 = Lover - 14 Single 4 = The Man - 21 Folklore: Single 1 = Cardigan - 6 Evermore: Single 1 = Willow - 3
April 12, 20223 yr The only ones I would change were 'Reputation' & 'Lover', so here goes = Reputation: Single 1: Look What You Made Me Do Single 2: I Did Something Bad Single 3: Getaway Car Single 4: Call It What You Want Single 5: Delicate Lover: Single 1: Cruel Summer Single 2: You Need to Calm Down Single 3: The Man Single 4: Lover Single 5: Miss Americana & The Heartbreak Prince
April 13, 20223 yr the last 4 eras have been so so poorly handled... Reputation 1 Look what you made me do 2 Delicate and that's it :D Lover 1 Cruel summer 2 Lover 3 The man and that's it :D for Folklore/Evermore it's crazy they stopped after single 1... Exile and Champagne Problems are Amon Taylor's best ever Folklore 1 Cardigan 2 Exile Evermore 1 Willow 2 Champagne problems
April 13, 20223 yr Would further singles from Folklore and Evermore have even done anything or outperformed how they did as album tracks anyway? Especially with how difficult it is these days for post-album singles to make any traction.
April 13, 20223 yr For Lover I definitely would have had 'Cruel Summer' as the lead single, with 'You Need To Calm Down' as a promo track/video (as it has an important message) and then 'The Man' as the second proper single to launch the album. And 'Lover' at Christmas. For Reputation 'Getaway Car' not being a single really felt like a waste, but that campaign seemed pretty much dead in the water by the end of the year. For 1989 I would have released the magnificent 'Out Of The Woods' earlier in the campaign as it never really got its moment to shine. :(
April 13, 20223 yr I think Champagne Problems could have been huge, in the US it only peaked at #21 on album release week, so sure it could have improved in there agree on Out of the Woods, could have been single 4 instead of Bad Blood
April 13, 20223 yr I think Red was handled fine, I know some people say All Too Well should've been a single but the whole "fan fave album track to #1 across the world years later" narrative is far more interesting imo. Tbh I think the awful single choices in Rep/Lover eras worked out in the long run since it made folklore/evermore feel way more impactful, but there's definitely some things I would've changed. 1989: Single 1: Shake It Off Single 2: Blank Space Single 3: Style Single 4: Out Of The Woods - honestly I don't think Bad Blood was great for Taylor's public perception, it definitely contributed towards the whole 'snake' thing. OOTW deserved! Single 5: Wildest Dreams Single 6: Wonderland - this sounds kinda dated now but I feel it would've worked at the time, and something has to replace OOTW since I moved it up. Single 7: New Romantics - maybe too similar now to Wonderland, so Single 6 could've also been You Are In Love Reputation: Single 1: LWYMMD - works as a big moment, but I would've moved on quickly once it started to die off on the charts. Single 2: Don't Blame Me - the whole album was seen as being about the media/reputation/celebrity culture, which people weren't here for. A more 'dark side of romance' angle like in this song would've been more effective without actually changing anything about the album Single 3: I Did Something Bad - thematically quite similar to the previous 2 singles but still sounds pretty big to me Single 4: Getaway Car - obviously a fan favourite, something different from the rest of the era for the 1989 stans Single 5: Delicate - worked well enough as a final single and bridges nicely into Lover era Lover: I would've moved the whole campaign on by about a month so that Old Town Road wouldn't have been such a threat (then the era could've had 2 US #1s) Single 1: Cruel Summer - I don't think I have to convince anyone on this x (YNTCD as a promo single sometime around here since it has an important message) Single 2: Lover - released late summer, giving it time to build through autumn. Obviously as the title track it works well alongside an album announcement Single 3: Paper Rings - given how well it's done thanks to TikTok, I think it's fair to say this could've been a hit. It's fun and represents the era pretty well, released alongside the album. Single 4: Miss Americana and the Heartbreak Prince - this would've been the promo single for the Miss Americana docu instead of Only The Young. It's got the same optimistic political message, but imo with more hit potential. There's other songs that could've been singles (Cornelia Street especially) but I would've stopped there to make way for folklore. folklore: Single 1: cardigan - my favourite from the album, feels like a good representation of the overall sound Single 2: exile - it's already turning into the bigger hit so makes sense to get a single push august could've been pushed too, but I actually wouldn't do that unless it was as a very low-key single. I feel like it works better as a fan favourite and is probably doing better thanks to TikTok than it would've as a post-album single. Plus both folklore and evermore definitely benefit from feeling 'underrated', in the long term they'll be seen more as hidden gems for people to discover. evermore: Single 1: willow - the most commercial track for sure Single 2: champagne problems - not my fave but seems popular so why not! Single 2: no body, no crime - this wouldn't have been a hit but like irl I would've released it as a country single, at the same time as champagne problems Again other songs could've been pushed - long story short def could've worked but the era had to end quickly to move onto Fearless TV.
April 13, 20223 yr I'll show what I would like soon, but it most likely wouldn't be what the market eats up.
April 13, 20223 yr Taylor Swift: Single 1 = Teardrops on My Guitar Single 2 = Our Song Single 3 = Picture to Burn Single 4 = Should've Said No Fearless: keep the same Speak Now: Single 1 = Mine Single 2 = Back to December Single 3 = Mean Single 4 = Speak Now Single 5 = Sparks Fly Single 6 = Enchanted Red: Single 1 = We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together Single 2 = Red Single 3 = I Knew You Were Trouble Single 4 = 22 Single 5 = All Too Well 1989: Single 1 = Shake It Off Single 2 = Blank Space Single 3 = Style Single 4 = Bad Blood Single 5 = Wildest Dreams Single 6 = Out of The Woods Single 7 = Welcome to New York reputation: Single 1 = Look What You Made Me Do Single 2 = …Ready For It Single 3 = Delicate Single 4 = So It Goes... Single 5 = Getaway Car Lover: Single 1 = ME! Single 2 = Cruel Summer Single 3 = You Need To Calm Down Single 4 = Lover Single 5 = False God Single 6 = Miss Americana & the Heartbreak Prince folklore: Single 1 = cardigan Single 2 = exile Single 3 = august evermore: Single 1 = willow Single 2 = no body, no crime Single 3 = gold rush
April 13, 20223 yr Author Wow - great to read all of these and peoples thought processes behind the choices. I’ll add mine in. Ready For It, I’m really surprised you’ve kept Me as the first single for Lover!!
April 13, 20223 yr Ready For It, I’m really surprised you’ve kept Me as the first single for Lover!! I like it...plus, Benjamin is in the video. :wub:
April 25, 20223 yr Author At last… Red: Single 1 = We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together Single 2 = All Too Well Single 3 = I Knew You Were Trouble Single 4 = Red Single 5 = State of Grace Single 6 = 22 Single 7 = The Last Time 1989: Single 1 = Shake It Off Single 2 = Blank Space Single 3 = Style Single 4 = Wildest Dreams Single 5 = Out Of The Woods Single 6 = Welcome To New York Single 7 = This Love Reputation: Single 1 = Look What You Made Me Do Single 2 = Getaway Car Single 3 = I Did Something Bad Single 4 = …Ready For It? or Gorgeous Single 5 = Delicate Lover: Single 1 = Cruel Summer Single 2 = Paper Rings Single 3 = Lover Single 4 = Miss Americana and The Heartbreak Prince Single 5 = The Man Single 6 = Cornelia Street Folklore: Single 1 = Cardigan Single 2 = August Single 3 = Exile Single 4 = Invisible String Evermore: Single 1 = Willow Single 2 = Champagne Problems Single 3 = No Body No Crime Single 4 = Long Story Short
April 25, 20223 yr I'll do it from SN. It's the first album I'm really a fan of/know enough about. Speak Now: (Actually happy with the single roll out for this overall. But if I was to make any personal changes) 01. Back To December 02. Mean --ALBUM-- 03. Better Than Revenge 04. Enchanted --ALBUM RE-RELEASE-- 05. The Story of Us Red: 01. State of Grace 02. Red --ALBUM-- 03. All Too Well 04. I Knew You Were Trouble 05. 22 1989: (Not a big fan of SIO or BB but I understand and get why they were chosen as singles, but here's my personal singles run) 01. Welcome To New York 02. Blank Space 03. Out of The Woods --ALBUM-- 04. Style 05. New Romantics 06. How You Get The Girl Reputation: 01. ...Ready For It 02. Getaway Car PROMO SINGLES/INSTANT GRATS x 3 Weekly up to album release: PS1. Look What You Made Me Do PS2. Gorgeous PS3. New Years Day --ALBUM-- 03. Delicate 04. I Did Something Bad 05. End Game Lover: 01. You Need To Calm Down 02. The Man PROMO SINGLES/INSTANT GRATS x 2 Weekly up to album release: PS1. The Archer PS2. Miss Americana & The Heartbreak Prince --ALBUM-- 03. Lover 04. Cruel Summer folklore: (Singles probs wouldn't have made much difference to what they actually did, but having it in mind of selling the album) --ALBUM-- 01. exile 02. cardigan 03. the last great american dynasty 04. august evermore: (see the note left for 'folklore') --ALBUM-- 01. no body, no crime 02. champagne problems 03. gold rush 04. long story short
May 5, 20223 yr Author 1989: Single 1 = Shake It Off Single 2 = Blank Space Single 3 = Style Single 4 = Wildest Dreams Single 5 = Out Of The Woods Single 6 = Welcome To New York Single 7 = This Love I mean, I don’t wanna act like I tempted fate or anything :P Edited May 5, 20223 yr by London
May 5, 20223 yr 1989: Single 7 = This Love I mean, I don’t wanna act like I tempted fate or anything :P :lol: I guess you did!