I mean to be fair, I think "Fine Line" being a monster success is a big contributing factor to this out the gate explosion. Follow ups like this cash in the cheque for higher chart positions all the time but that doesn't make them more popular. Time will tell in the long run.

 

(I'm not hating on the new album, only just now listening to it!)

Really really impressive for Harry holding up so well

All Joseph fault have on lope 24 hour day

But you think there's a link between music quality and popularity lol

Then Westlife made the best music of the 2000s :D

It's also his highest Metacritic score so far

 

68 Harry Styles

76 Fine Line

82 Harry's House

Westlife rarely sold well beyond week 1 though, and very few of their #1 singles made the EOY top 40s. Back then it was relatively easy to get 20k fans to buy a single on the opening day and, voila, it became a Top 10 hit.

 

Whereas getting 300k+ daily streams for 12 album tracks is hard to sustain, so to still be doing that on the 4th day, people must genuinely like it.

 

Who's talking about singles? Westlife also did well in albums and well beyond week 1

 

Who is the age group that most uses Spotify and influences the charts? Teens age 12, so if you think the music taste of a 12 year old is the definition of good music, there's really no point in arguing tbh.

Who's talking about singles? Westlife also did well in albums and well beyond week 1

 

Who is the age group that most uses Spotify and influences the charts? Teens age 12, so if you think the music taste of a 12 year old is the definition of good music, there's really no point in arguing tbh.

 

It's like you can't help yourself with this obsessional ageism you seem to have.

Who's talking about singles? Westlife also did well in albums and well beyond week 1

 

Who is the age group that most uses Spotify and influences the charts? Teens age 12, so if you think the music taste of a 12 year old is the definition of good music, there's really no point in arguing tbh.

It's actually late teens and early 20s that use Spotify the most, not people as young as 12. There's no need to be patronising and turn your nose up at songs and artists that skew younger.

Can't believe all those Directioners who supported them on X Factor 12 years ago are nearly teenagers, time flies! :heehee:

It's actually late teens and early 20s that use Spotify the most, not people as young as 12. There's no need to be patronising and turn your nose up at songs and artists that skew younger.

 

But you forget he's actually so "cool" for having a "superior" music taste to anybody else.

The way Harry's basically used the same strategy as Adele (i.e. only releasing one song before the album) leads me to think this album (like hers) won't have comparatively as much longevity as the previous.

 

The difference being I fully expect Harry's team to pop out remixes, features, and a deluxe edition with new tracks/further singles to keep the campaign going.

 

I don't think Adele really cares about her albums after release week.

The difference being I fully expect Harry's team to pop out remixes, features, and a deluxe edition with new tracks/further singles to keep the campaign going.

 

I don't think Adele really cares about her albums after release week.

 

Harry has never done any of those things so far, he got lucky with Fine Line and scored 3? post-album smashes without any remixes or features. Not sure how Harry’s House post-album releases will fair this time.

 

Who's talking about singles? Westlife also did well in albums and well beyond week 1

 

Who is the age group that most uses Spotify and influences the charts? Teens age 12, so if you think the music taste of a 12 year old is the definition of good music, there's really no point in arguing tbh.

I wasn't talking about any perceived 'quality' :lol: more about longevity, so their albums did sell beyond week 1 but that was largely helped by the timespan of their post-album singles releases. Only their debut and greatest hits lasted more than 50 weeks on the album chart, for the rest the sales were still reasonably frontloaded.

 

Obviously it's far too early to make those comparisons with a few days of streams of Harry's album and the success of Fine Line is largely responsible for the strong start, but the initial signs are they are holding up.

The difference being I fully expect Harry's team to pop out remixes, features, and a deluxe edition with new tracks/further singles to keep the campaign going.

You're talking about the guy who didn't even do a price reduction or mini-campaign to get the album a few more sales so it could reach #1 in a dead week. He's never released a single remix or feature before and hasn't reissued either of his previous albums. I expect post-album singles to come of course but that's about it.

Harry has never done any of those things so far, he got lucky with Fine Line and scored 3? post-album smashes without any remixes or features. Not sure how Harry’s House post-album releases will fair this time.

I think there is less pressure on album sales for Harry than Adele, fine line for example is seen as been a big success by going double platinum where many see Adeles sales of just over 700k a big underperformance. I think it's likely Adeles 30 will still manage to pass a million which many will still be disappointed with but I think is still great considering how hard it is to sell albums. If Harry's house goes platinum which I think it will anything else will be a bonus and the album will still be seen as a success and who knows if the singles have longevity he might still get another double platinum album.

Not Adele being considered to have disappointing sales just because it can’t match the sales of 21 or 25, two of the all time bestsellers, in an utterly dead album sales climate.

 

I know some of the flop Adele comments on Buzzjack are satire but seriously?

Not Adele being considered to have disappointing sales just because it can’t match the sales of 21 or 25, two of the all time bestsellers, in an utterly dead album sales climate.

 

I know some of the flop Adele comments on Buzzjack are satire but seriously?

 

To be fair, that isn't exactly what I said (unsure if you're referring to my post but as I was the one who initiated the discussion about Adele...), I was talking about how the longevity of it hasn't been sustained as well as it could've been due to their strategy of only releasing one song before the album. I wasn't trying to suggest her sales are disappointing.

surely the adele album campaign is already over ? It will 100% put a lot more pressure on the next album

To be fair, that isn't exactly what I said (unsure if you're referring to my post but as I was the one who initiated the discussion about Adele...), I was talking about how the longevity of it hasn't been sustained as well as it could've been due to their strategy of only releasing one song before the album. I wasn't trying to suggest her sales are disappointing.

I think Dot Branning was responding to the immediately preceding post rather than yours. And I completely agree, it's completely nonsensical to compare 30's sales to 21's or 25's. A more sensible metric might be to to compare how much the album sold compared to, say, the average album sales of that year or something along those lines.

To be fair though '21' and '25' both sold absolutely leagues more than other big albums from their era in a way that '30' didn't (not that '30' should have been assumed to be able to do that for her a third time).

surely the adele album campaign is already over ? It will 100% put a lot more pressure on the next album

Well we do still have her shows in July and the vegas shows were only postponed rather than outright cancelled, so there is scope for further singles etc. Does feel a bit too long a gap now to come back with another single still and Adele isn’t exactly active on socials, so who knows.

To be fair though '21' and '25' both sold absolutely leagues more than other big albums from their era in a way that '30' didn't (not that '30' should have been assumed to be able to do that for her a third time).

Yeah that's a fair point. Some quick calculations:

 

In 2011, '21' sold 5.77 times more than the 10th best selling album that year.

In 2015, '25' sold 5.49 times more than the 10th best selling album that year.

In 2021, '30' sold 3.10 times more than the 10th best selling album that year.

 

So by that particular metric it's fair to say that '30' hasn't performed as well as her previous albums, although selling 3x more than the #10 album is still an achievement not to be sniffed at.