The parts about Jesy are really brutal wow. I’m kind of taken a back by how honest she was. It sounds like it’s still quite raw from the way she’s speaking. She also has every right to respond after the doc.

The only thing that I don’t get is her saying Jesy has not taken accountability specifically in relation to being difficult to work with. I only say this as she said in the documentary she was difficult to work with, could be a bitch and felt sorry for the other girls working with someone so miserable, her mom even said the same. Since 2021 Jesy has said in multiple interviews she was difficult to work with and she felt bad for the other 3 for being so miserable/a bitch. So that part really confuses me.

I wonder if she didn’t watch all of the doc? I wish they had just met in person and hashed things out. It’s clear for sure now that a four piece reunion will never happen :(

Jesy has been silent on socials since Perrie mentioned Little Mix will come back as a 3 and the wave of hate she got from it (not blaming Perrie), it might be a coincidence but I wonder if Jesy will acknowledge this in any way or remain off socials. She’s supposed to go to the premiere of her SMA doc tomorrow.

11 minutes ago, Slayer said:

The parts about Jesy are really brutal wow. I’m kind of taken a back by how honest she was. It sounds like it’s still quite raw from the way she’s speaking. She also has every right to respond after the doc.

The only thing that I don’t get is her saying Jesy has not taken accountability specifically in relation to being difficult to work with. I only say this as she said in the documentary she was difficult to work with, could be a bitch and felt sorry for the other girls working with someone so miserable, her mom even said the same. Since 2021 Jesy has said in multiple interviews she was difficult to work with and she felt bad for the other 3 for being so miserable/a bitch. So that part really confuses me.

I wonder if she didn’t watch all of the doc? I wish they had just met in person and hashed things out. It’s clear for sure now that a four piece reunion will never happen :(

Jesy has been silent on socials since Perrie mentioned Little Mix will come back as a 3 and the wave of hate she got from it (not blaming Perrie), it might be a coincidence but I wonder if Jesy will acknowledge this in any way or remain off socials. She’s supposed to go to the premiere of her SMA doc tomorrow.

There’s a massive difference between taking accountability publically facing for fans to hear and taking accountability towards the people it actually affected at the time.

Every bit of information they’ve have had since she left has been through public outlets, by Jesy’s choice as well, so they’re all being held away at a distance.

I do get the impression Perrie is still massively hurt by the situation, they really were super close at one point.

Just now, Libby_95 said:

There’s a massive difference between taking accountability publically facing for fans to hear and taking accountability towards the people it actually affected at the time.

Every bit of information they’ve have had since she left has been through public outlets, by Jesy’s choice as well, so they’re all being held away at a distance.

I do get the impression Perrie is still massively hurt by the situation, they really were super close at one point.

But she appeared to be talking about no accountability in the doc for being difficult to work with?

This isn’t an argument btw as I do agree there should also have been accountability privately too.

The whole situation is sad.

3 minutes ago, Slayer said:

But she appeared to be talking about no accountability in the doc for being difficult to work with?

This isn’t an argument btw as I do agree there should also have been accountability privately too.

The whole situation is sad.

We don’t know if she watched the whole documentary or has just had parts paraphrased or shown to her. But there’s also probably a lot of other parts to it that we don’t know about.

The whole thing is a mess, and I can see both sides so it’s quite hard to recover from tbh.

As much as Jesy does acknowledge she was difficult to work with in the doc she did throw in some killer blows (Like saying she felt the girls weren't there for her and that someone said 'Can we go now' when she was opening up) I really don't think she fully acknowledged just HOW MUCH the girls had been there for her throughout the years and it probably got to a point where she wasn't really helping herself (Probably because the popstar life just wasn't for her) It was obvious all 3 cared and supported her all the time from numerous clips and behind the scene's footage.

It's incredibly sad and there's definitely a disconnect on both sides.

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That comment by Jesy's Mum about the girls not being there for her was definitely a huge mistake. There really was no coming back from that.

Jesy just needs to stop talking about Little Mix. Period.

I felt a wave of sadness watching that, particularly that Perrie was open to rekindling the friendship until the documentary.

I love Jesy, she will always be the best part about Little Mix for me but I do think she has burned her bridges with the group and has hurt them on such a level.

Good for Perrie. Jesy is allowed to name a whole documentary after the group and try throw the others under the bus to save her own reputation.

Now people on social media are calling the others "mean girls". If Jesy wants to paint the others in bad a light for sympathy, they are more than entitled to defend themselves.

I haven't really been following any or much of this very closely at all. I haven't seen Jesy's documentary nor Perrie's podcast. Are they worth checking out?

10 minutes ago, Paddington James said:

I haven't really been following any or much of this very closely at all. I haven't seen Jesy's documentary nor Perrie's podcast. Are they worth checking out?

Honestly, if you already watched Odd One Out I wouldn't bother with Jesy's doc. It's pretty much the same thing except they've mixed in the Little Mix content with Jesy's pregnancy story so it covers both of them.

35 minutes ago, shadow2009 said:

Honestly, if you already watched Odd One Out I wouldn't bother with Jesy's doc. It's pretty much the same thing except they've mixed in the Little Mix content with Jesy's pregnancy story so it covers both of them.

Thanks. Where is the best place to check out Perrie’s? Is it a podcast on Spotify?

Perrie is a Cancer (star sign x) just like me and it really is crazy to me how we both deal with situations like this on a very, very similar level. We've also got to all remember too, that this is clearly not just "a group breaking up"... their genuine friendship and sisterhood has been ruined and on a personal level, that must hurt far more than simply "losing a member" could.

Jesy clearly did a number on those 3 and I don't think it's fair how a lot of the people defending her (on social media - not anyone here) are not taking into account, how THEY are feeling at any point in this process and it's all "woe is Jesy". The 4 of them had such a strong and unique bond for a pop group of their stature, lasting 9 years together until something (at least from a public perspective) cracked between them. Constantly telling interviewers their bond is what made them work as a group for as long as it did and that they were all "genuinely the best of friends", and you could tell in those moments, they really were.

It's really sad what happened in the end but as human beings (on every side) we all have our breaking points. The saddest part of Perrie's podcast (in regards to the group because there is some really heavy stuff about miscarriages in the podcast!) was that she was hopeful of rekindling something with Jesy, but then the documentary came out and painted her (and the other 2) as villains, to which point Perrie had clearly had enough.

It also just reiterates in my head that the Little Mix reunion/Jesy related questions MUST STOP now. Let them move on and "heal" with their own journeys etc.. but unfortunately, it's not going to stop.

I feel like we already know far too much for today's society and that makes me sad because we're going to get so many parasocial fans (on both sides) feeling entitled and bullying/harassing the girls for stuff they don't know THE FULL story to. They can come to conclusions themselves, but they'll never really know.

36 minutes ago, Tafty said:

Perrie is a Cancer (star sign x) just like me and it really is crazy to me how we both deal with situations like this on a very, very similar level. We've also got to all remember too, that this is clearly not just "a group breaking up"... their genuine friendship and sisterhood has been ruined and on a personal level, that must hurt far more than simply "losing a member" could.

Jesy clearly did a number on those 3 and I don't think it's fair how a lot of the people defending her (on social media - not anyone here) are not taking into account, how THEY are feeling at any point in this process and it's all "woe is Jesy". The 4 of them had such a strong and unique bond for a pop group of their stature, lasting 9 years together until something (at least from a public perspective) cracked between them. Constantly telling interviewers their bond is what made them work as a group for as long as it did and that they were all "genuinely the best of friends", and you could tell in those moments, they really were.

It's really sad what happened in the end but as human beings (on every side) we all have our breaking points. The saddest part of Perrie's podcast (in regards to the group because there is some really heavy stuff about miscarriages in the podcast!) was that she was hopeful of rekindling something with Jesy, but then the documentary came out and painted her (and the other 2) as villains, to which point Perrie had clearly had enough.

It also just reiterates in my head that the Little Mix reunion/Jesy related questions MUST STOP now. Let them move on and "heal" with their own journeys etc.. but unfortunately, it's not going to stop.

I feel like we already know far too much for today's society and that makes me sad because we're going to get so many parasocial fans (on both sides) feeling entitled and bullying/harassing the girls for stuff they don't know THE FULL story to. They can come to conclusions themselves, but they'll never really know.

The part about her losing her little boy at 24 weeks and having his ashes… my heart broke for her. It’s quite sad that all the Zayn/Jesy talk is overshadowing her being quite vulnerable about that too.

I do think after this, and the 15th anniversary in August their teams all need to lock on and steer conversations away from Little Mix/Jesy in general. It’s something all group members face though annoyingly.

Good for Perrie. Thank god she was able to let herself be honest about the situation. Because Jesy has made every single situation about her being the victim, even though some of the stuff that's happened to her has been awful.

It's a shame because moments before the doc aired the girls were starting to talk to her again. Allison Hammond was telling Jesy how much Perrie adored her. So the narrative on the doc that the girls didn't do enough when they probably spent years trying to help her must have hit HARD.

I dont blame her for feeling that way the documentary definitely dealt some blows , jesy really doesnt help herself and the girls are well within their rights to feel hurt too, such a shame as she even said herself she was ready to reach out before the documentary as well

Side note that , that is the biggest thing people take away from the interview because the stuff about perries miscarriages was hard to watch especially the part where she was so affected she couldnt even tell Jade herself she had to get Leigh to do it 😢

Everyone in her camp (even her own sister) taking to social media to slag Perrie off truly shows what a absolute snake Jesy is.

Whether what Perrie has said is right/wrong whatever the amount of hate Jesy is getting insane!

Jesy’s sister has posted:

1 minute ago, Telephone said:

Everyone in her camp (even her own sister) taking to social media to slag Perrie off truly shows what an absolute snake Jesy is.

How’s Jesy a snake for her sister defending her after a brutal interview? We will never know the full truth, I can see both sides. This isn’t the time to paint Jesy as some monster.

9 minutes ago, Slayer said:

How’s Jesy a snake for her sister defending her after a brutal interview? We will never know the full truth, I can see both sides. This isn’t the time to paint Jesy as some monster.

You're not in an unbiased position to discuss this and that's fine but respectfully I'd rather moving forward me & you don't have any interaction anymore.

That statement from her sister is wild. The bit where she states 'all Jesy has done is hold herself accountable' is laughable. For years she stayed silent on girls, ignored everything including the girls including her in The Brit speech (Nothing at all from Jesy) she had every interview under the sun talking about LM and how it affected HER not once did she ever mention how hard it was Jade, Leigh and Perrie or even hold herself accountable for the blackfishing.

In fact, has she ever held herself accountable for the blackfishing? Nope, she only said she 'had no idea' how it would affect others which was a total lie when she was deleting instagram comments over her tan.

That aside, in all of those interviews she did after leaving LM she didn't take any accountability whatsoever (Including the Nicki bashing towards Leigh) she threw the girls under the bus time and time again and then the Documentary came out (I thought it was great and had some understanding of where she was coming from) but I don't understand why she felt the need to throw the others under the bus again, she did take some accountability but in the same breath trashed the girls again.

She's never thanked the girls for all their support throughout the years, she's never really touched on the multiple times the girls picked her up and all she does is focus on how it was towards the end which let's be honest Jesy caused most of.

Jesy didn't even want to sit down with the girls and have group therapy she point blank refused (So Maybe this was the angle Perrie meant?!)

At this point it's fire on fire and I can't see a way back for the 4 of them after this public slagging match (Such poor taste from Jesy's family / Team).

Edited June 10Jun 10 by Mr. C. Joel