Lettuce rejoice *.*

 

This really is going to be general election territory isn't it? A week-long emergency contest to put Hunt or whoever in charge.

Lettuce rejoice *.*

 

This really is going to be general election territory isn't it? A week-long emergency contest to put Hunt or whoever in charge.

 

Hunt has said he is not standing. I suspect we will get either Sunak or Mordaunt. Either way, the Tories can’t keep changing leaders so we need a general election as this is a shambles.

There is a god!!!

 

Bye bye Liz, i know you'll have left a great legacy. Your legacy being putting millions of British Citizens into poverty. Thanks x

Who do you want to be PM?

If there is a Genral Election it has to be Starmer,. But if it does end up as another tory leadership contest, Rishi or Tobias Ellwood (Unlikely he will stand).

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Starmer is the WORST IN YEARS. Corbyn is the greatest UK LEADER OF ANY SORT since Attlee.

Won't be Sunak as just too hated. Mordaunt possibly but even then the right wing/ERG will want Badenoch. I think Mordaunt would win against Badenoch in a vote by the Party Membership. Interesting to see if the right wing press will lessen their intense criticism of her.

I'm hoping her legacy is pushing the party into unelectable status at least for the foreseeable. I imagine their polling numbers are bound to improve again a little bit with whoever takes the poison chalice next (not like they can get much worse) but surely after so many complete disasters in a row this has to be the cue that the problem is the party, not any one individual.

Hopefully someone as mad as Liz Truss will win AGAIN to force a general election. We will be much, much better off for it in the long-run.

The problem is that the party is too fractured. A more centrist candidate wouldn't satisfy the likes of Braverman/ Rees Mogg.

 

However another candidate from the other end wouldn't satisfy the more centrist of the Tories (I say centrist in a Tory way, which is still right)

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It will be a Tory MP-only vote, so Sunak will probably get it.

The problem is that the part is too fractured. A more centrist candidate wouldn't satisfy the likes of Braverman/ Rees Mogg.

 

However another candidate from the other end wouldn't satisfy the more centrist of the Tories (I say centrist in a Tory way, which is still right)

 

That's what happens in FPTP, especially when you have so many MPs AND absorbed a far-right, extremist party as well in order to keep their evil grip on power.

 

If there is a Genral Election it has to be Starmer, the best Labour leader in years. But if it does end up as another tory leadership contest, Rishi or Tobias Ellwood (Unlikely he will stand).

 

 

I’m not convinced that Starmer is a ‘good’ leader. He comes across as weak but his party have come up with some good ideas recently.

The question is, are labour doing so well in the polls on their own merits or because the Tories are doing so badly? Sunak is politically popular among the general public so the tide could change if he is elected as pm and we have a period of relative calm and the election doesn’t happen till 2024. I really hope that doesn’t happen as we badly need a change and the Tories have done so much damage in this country over the past 12 years.

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Starmer is the WORST IN YEARS. Corbyn is the greatest UK LEADER OF ANY SORT since Attlee.

 

Disgusting

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54730425

 

Labour has suspended Jeremy Corbyn from the party over his reaction to a highly critical report on anti-Semitism.

 

The human rights watchdog found Labour responsible for "unlawful" harassment and discrimination during Mr Corbyn's four-and-a-half years as leader.

 

But he later said the scale of anti-Semitism within Labour had been "dramatically overstated" by opponents.

 

A Labour spokesman said Mr Corbyn was being suspended "for a failure to retract" his words.

 

Mr Corbyn reacted by calling the move "political" and promised to "strongly contest" it.

 

The suspension will remain in place while the party carries out an investigation into his remarks.

 

What does the Labour anti-Semitism report say?

A guide to Labour anti-Semitism claims

Labour's agony over anti-Semitism far from over

Sir Keir Starmer, who became Labour leader in April, said the publication of the Equality and Human Rights Commission's (EHRC) report had brought "a day of shame" for the party.

 

It found Labour responsible for three breaches of the Equality Act:

 

Political interference in anti-Semitism complaints

Failure to provide adequate training to those handling anti-Semitism complaints

Harassment, including the use of anti-Semitic tropes and suggesting that complaints of anti-Semitism were fake or smears

The EHRC found evidence of 23 instances of "inappropriate involvement" by Mr Corbyn's office.

 

Sir Keir, who served under Mr Corbyn as shadow Brexit secretary, promised to implement the report's recommendations "as soon as possible in the New Year".

 

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Analysis box by Laura Kuenssberg, political editor

This seems not to have been a deliberately designed collision between the current party boss and his predecessor.

 

But this was an explosive political parting of ways, provoked in part by Mr Corbyn's trademark determination not to bend.

 

This is an attribute admired by many of his devotees, a frustration abhorred by his detractors and a sadness to those in Labour who believe it coloured the party's handling of anti-Semitism.

 

For Sir Keir, this episode does, perhaps by accident rather than design, prove beyond doubt his slogan - Labour is under new leadership - to be true.

 

Responding to the EHRC's findings, Mr Corbyn said he was "always determined to eliminate all forms of racism".

 

He claimed his team had "acted to speed up, not hinder the process" and that the scale of anti-Semitism within Labour had been "dramatically overstated for political reasons by our opponents inside and outside the party".

 

Shortly afterwards Labour general secretary David Evans suspended Mr Corbyn.

 

The party said this was "in light of his comments" and "his failure to retract them subsequently".

 

Mr Corbyn, Labour leader from 2015 until this year, reacted on Twitter, promising to "strongly contest the political intervention to suspend me".

 

He said those who denied the party had an anti-Semitism problem were "wrong" and he would "continue to support a zero-tolerance policy towards all forms of racism".

 

In an interview, Mr Corbyn did not retract his earlier comments and said: "I'll be appealing to the party and those who made the decision to kindly think again."

 

 

Please no Jacob Rees-mogg

You just fell hook, line and sinker for the biggedt STITCH UP IN UK POLITICAL HISTORY. He is NOT anti semetic. The end. Well done on falling for right wing propaganda eh!

This is a full-scale avalanche which can't be stopped now. She will definitely be gone by this evening.

What’s the euromillions numbers Aly?

Starmer is going to trounce anyone right now if there were an election - which I'm afraid is why there won't be one called. There'll be a new PM, they'll try to stabilise things and slowly erode away the government support rather than torpedo it like Truss was doing.

 

Disgusting

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54730425

 

You just fell hook, line and sinker for the biggedt STITCH UP IN UK POLITICAL HISTORY. He is NOT anti semetic. The end. Well done on falling for right wing propaganda eh!

 

lads, the PM has just resigned hold off on the Corbyn reactions for just a second

You just fell hook, line and sinker for the biggedt STITCH UP IN UK POLITICAL HISTORY. He is NOT anti semetic. The end. Well done on falling for right wing propaganda eh!

Why would this be Right wing propoganda if HIS OWN PARTY suspended him.

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Starmer is going to trounce anyone right now if there were an election - which I'm afraid is why there won't be one called. There'll be a new PM, they'll try to stabilise things and slowly erode away the government support rather than torpedo it like Truss was doing.

lads, the PM has just resigned hold off on the Corbyn reactions for just a second

I agree so. I hope the tories get back into shape as the nation are really suffering over rash decisions made vy the government. we need someone who can make educated decisions, and can maintain good relationships.

Congratulations lettuce good riddance Truss.