what you mean figure out??? will you be ok with them hiding the fact she cant sing? are you ok faking the competition? that wouldnt be fair for those who can really sing and still have to go throught semis, while UK goes straight to the final with someone that cant sing.

 

:blink: People who saw her on Little Mix's tour said she sounded fine then - this partly appears to be an issue with dancing while trying to sing and keep up with a relatively upbeat song, with maybe a bit nervousness mixed in. And you don't think other countries are reconfiguring their performances to sound as good as possible (hell, hasn't there been a country that changed their initial entry)?

 

Nowhere did I say they should "fake" anything.

what you mean figure out??? will you be ok with them hiding the fact she cant sing? are you ok faking the competition? that wouldnt be fair for those who can really sing and still have to go throught semis, while UK goes straight to the final with someone that cant sing.

 

I don't know, you seem to be very attached to the idea that she can't sing and isn't deserving. When yes, this audio clip is certainly not her at her best but there's plenty of potential mitigating factors, bad audio at fan concerts compared to what people hear on TV, still getting to grips with how she should perform the song, not going for that high note on the day.

 

also as a key Eurovision promoter of 'alternative vocals' (look at my Romania ranking), you never need traditionally good vocals to be an enjoyable performer - people put way too much weight on pitch perfectness especially for non-ballad songs when depending on the energy she can whip up (and she's certainly good at that), it won't be as much of a factor.

It's hard because Eurovision is about staging and performance as much as the song.

I would say if she had twice as many dancers, with some kind of inventive staging, she could get away with just strutting around the stage a bit and being able to concentrate on the vocals.

As I said before, some decent backing vocals will help.

 

they can do that?? i dont think they are allowed by the competition to change the vocal sound of the song, that would be like adding a instrument, it would changing/modifying the song from the studio version.

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I don't know, you seem to be very attached to the idea that she can't sing and isn't deserving. When yes, this audio clip is certainly not her at her best but there's plenty of potential mitigating factors, bad audio at fan concerts compared to what people hear on TV, still getting to grips with how she should perform the song, not going for that high note on the day.

 

also as a key Eurovision promoter of 'alternative vocals' (look at my Romania ranking), you never need traditionally good vocals to be an enjoyable performer - people put way too much weight on pitch perfectness especially for non-ballad songs when depending on the energy she can whip up (and she's certainly good at that), it won't be as much of a factor.

 

two live performances already done and her vocals are still awfull, she proved she couldnt even hit that note live.

they can do that?? i dont think they are allowed by the competition to change the vocal sound of the song, that would be like adding a instrument, it would changing/modifying the song from the studio version.

 

I would say as long as the original song has backing vocals - and I'm assuming it must have some - then they would be able to have backing vocalists on the night.

 

What I was meaning was that live backing vocalists are going to be better than her just singing along to a backing track, which is what she would have been doing in the (not very good) performance video.

Acoustic version

 

That was actually really enjoyable - not just because the vocals were better, but she felt a bit more in her comfort zone.

And shows she can sing live when she's not desperately trying to join in with the dancers and doesn't attempt the big old high note in the same way.

It’s kind of misleading because it’s not 100% acoustic it’s easy to tell it was recorded in a proper studio then edited.

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And shows she can sing live when she's not desperately trying to join in with the dancers and doesn't attempt the big old high note in the same way.

 

I mean, there was pretty much only one user who thought she actually couldn't sing :P

 

But yeah, her performance on Eurovision will pretty much have to find a balance between when she joins in on the dancing, singing and what goes on the backing vocal. And I would probably skip the high note because even if she ends up performing it perfectly it's not really a "moment" in the song that's worth the risk. It would be one thing if it was a ballad, then it might be worth taking that risk, but as it is the song is fine without it.

Acoustic version

 

 

ok but that is not the Eurovision performance version, and this isn't live though. It's a music video for an acoustic version of the song that was created in a recording studio, sometimes using the same vocal takes as the normal version, which have been put through Autotune/Melodyne and other effects

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ok but that is not the Eurovision performance version, and this isn't live though. It's a music video for an acoustic version of the song that was created in a recording studio, sometimes using the same vocal takes as the normal version, which have been put through Autotune/Melodyne and other effects

 

:zzz: :zzz: :zzz:

ok but that is not the Eurovision performance version, and this isn't live though. It's a music video for an acoustic version of the song that was created in a recording studio, sometimes using the same vocal takes as the normal version, which have been put through Autotune/Melodyne and other effects

 

Jerez, you really are gunning for her!

 

Jerez, you really are gunning for her!

 

I just cant stand hypocrisy, when there are singers with strong vocals in live performances and are less supported than this.

I just cant stand hypocrisy, when there are singers with strong vocals in live performances and are less supported than this.

 

There are millions of singers that can sing better than people having platinum selling singles? It’s just the way it goes - there are videos where clearly her vocals need work and others where she shows she can sing perfectly fine, you’re acting as if she can’t hold a note.

 

Stop being so pressed about someone you clearly dislike, go and support your faves instead.

There are millions of singers that can sing better than people having platinum selling singles? It’s just the way it goes - there are videos where clearly her vocals need work and others where she shows she can sing perfectly fine, you’re acting as if she can’t hold a note.

 

Stop being so pressed about someone you clearly dislike, go and support your faves instead.

 

im not alone on this, so you stop coming for me, get real is a competition not Top of the Pops. :rolleyes:

im not alone on this, so you stop coming for me, get real is a competition not Top of the Pops. :rolleyes:

 

You’re the only one that mentions it over and over and over… I’m not ‘coming for you’ just bored of reading how sh!t you think she is in every post.

Amsterdam last night -

 

That was much better than Madrid. Even the high note

 

 

Seen a lot of people say that Madrid suffered some technical issues with in ears, mixing and the like

See now that sounds absolutely fine, even the ending note sounds alright with the backing track coming on, enough catastrophising.