I feel bad for Dua, she's the bestest UK popstar right now

 

But don't think doing bad on streaming will affect her chances at #1 on albums, it was all in the hands of physicals

It is what it is! Oh well.

 

I hope she can pull it back and not end up having a Witness the next era!

I guess Future Nostalgia was her imperial phase then, and that she's peaked commercially. Not that she still won't be capable of getting hits of course, but it seems like she won't get back to that level of success. I don't really know what went wrong for her, to my ears it's a solid pop album with some strong songs, but it obviously just hasn't clicked with the public as well as it should have. Releasing three pre-album singles was definitely a bad idea.

I think having three top 10 hits on the album before it's out might have been a smart move for streaming longevity (as you need three decent sized hits on one album if it's gonna have any legs whatsoever), and of course we've got Glastonbury still to come.

 

I have to say the album is a real disappointment, and I really liked all three singles. It'll certainly be interesting to see what happens from here

Taylor will do 35-40k this week in total. Will Dua sell around 30k physicals? She will need to to be #1.

 

I got it Dua 37k Taylor 28k

Disappointing numbers indeed.😔

 

The only blessing in disguise from this could be that maybe will get a new album as soon as next year, because I don’t see this era having longevity with already three singles out there!!!

there's clearly no fourth hit on that album as it stands but I expect there'll be a deluxe edition of some kind before the year-end

Spotify Chart Update (03/05)

 

01 01 Sabrina Carpenter – Espresso 898,213

02 02 Hozier – Too Sweet 695,377

03 03 Artemas – i like the way you kiss me 546,088

04 05 Shaboozey – A Bar Song (Tipsy) 526,591 [*PEAK*]

05 04 Taylor Swift, Post Malone – Fortnight (feat. Post Malone) 523,114

06 06 Noah Kahan – Stick Season 467,186

07 07 Benson Boone – Beautiful Things 460,782

08 08 Kendrick Lamar – euphoria 419,162

09 10 Dasha – Austin 396,573

10 11 Teddy Swims – Lose Control 383,171

 

11 09 Taylor Swift – I Can Do It With a Broken Heart 383,126

12 13 Djo – End of Beginning 347,001

13 12 Mark Ambor – Belong Together 335,682

14 15 Ariana Grande – we can't be friends (wait for your love) 297,122

15 22 Tommy Richman – MILLION DOLLAR BABY 296,302 [*PEAK*]

16 14 Michael Marcagi – Scared To Start 291,235

17 19 cassö, RAYE, D-Block Europe – Prada 278,035

18 17 Taylor Swift – Down Bad 272,247

19 16 Lay Bankz – Tell Ur Girlfriend 268,686

20 23 Beyoncé – TEXAS HOLD 'EM 256,708

 

21 24 Benson Boone – Slow It Down 255,312 [*PEAK*]

22 18 Chappell Roan – Good Luck, Babe! 253,695

23 40 Dua Lipa – Illusion 249,283

24 20 Taylor Swift – Who’s Afraid of Little Old Me? 246,628

25 21 Taylor Swift – So Long, London 236,893

26 28 Tate McRae – greedy 232,365

27 26 Taylor Swift – My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys 221,874

28 25 Taylor Swift, Florence + The Machine – Florida!!! (feat. Florence + The Machine) 221,262

29 27 Taylor Swift – Guilty as Sin? 221,000

30 31 Badger, Natasha Bedingfield – These Words 220,734

 

31 29 Taylor Swift – But Daddy I Love Him 217,547

32 30 Taylor Swift – The Tortured Poets Department 216,882

33 32 Bryson Tiller – Whatever She Wants 213,092

34 34 Future, Metro Boomin, Kendrick Lamar – Like That 212,075

35 NE Dua Lipa – These Walls 205,417 [*PEAK*]

36 38 Natasha Bedingfield – Unwritten 204,246

37 78 Dua Lipa – Training Season 196,243

38 37 Taylor Swift – Cruel Summer 193,088

39 92 Dua Lipa – Houdini 192,941

40 33 SZA – Saturn 191,699

 

41 36 Drake – Push Ups 190,112

44 42 The Blessed Madonna, Clementine Douglas – Happier (feat. Clementine Douglas) 177,845

47 50 Mark Ronson, Amy Winehouse – Valerie (feat. Amy Winehouse) - Version Revisited 166,302

49 43 Good Neighbours – Home 164,528

51 51 Jungle – Back On 74 157,533

52 63 David Guetta, OneRepublic – I Don't Wanna Wait 155,504 [*PEAK*]

64 54 Richy Mitch & The Coal Miners – Evergreen 138,721

65 72 NewEra – Birds In The Sky 136,985

75 66 Tyla, Gunna, Skillibeng – Jump 129,261

77 67 Daya – Hide Away 127,201

78 93 Amy Winehouse – Back To Black 126,026

80 87 Travis Scott, Playboi Carti – FE!N (feat. Playboi Carti) 125,922

84 95 Pozer – Malicious Intentions 125,376

88 89 Bakar, Summer Walker – Hell N Back (feat. Summer Walker) 123,457

90 91 Rudimental, Skepsis, Charlotte Plank, Riko Dan – Green & Gold (feat. Charlotte Plank & Riko Dan) 122,556

97 116 Headie One, Stormzy, Tay Keith – Cry No More (feat. Stormzy & Tay Keith) 119,552

99 106 Yeat – If We Being Rëal 119,318 [*PEAK*]

 

103 107 Amy Winehouse – Tears Dry On Their Own 115,992

108 125 Jaxomy, Agatino Romero, Raffaella Carrà – Pedro 114,494

117 113 FloyyMenor, Cris Mj – Gata Only 109,580

120 109 d4vd – Feel It - From The Original Series “Invincible” 109,009

122 145 Perrie – Forget About Us 108,805

129 120 Dimitri Vegas & Like Mike, Tiësto, Dido, W&W, Dimitri Vegas, Like Mike – Thank You (Not So Bad) 105,857

157 NE Becky Hill – Right Here 97,892 [*PEAK*]

164 NE Zerb, The Chainsmokers, Ink – Addicted 96,641 [*PEAK*]

170 147 Alex Warren – Before You Leave Me 95,290

172 123 Gracie Abrams – Risk 94,999

192 165 Tems – Love Me JeJe 90,917

Bad for Dua. She does not have a real solid fanbase. She has great label support from the start hence radio and streaming have backed her. This is the start of the end unfortunately of being hugely successful. Most people I know think her songs all sound the same now and that she lacks charisma to a certain extent.

 

The album will sell poorly after week 1.

 

I 100% agree. Very little charisma, qirh samwy sounding songs= recipe foe disastee. Also this album should have been released MONTHS ago. A lot of this is on her/ the label. Huge albums have been out now, plus any hype for this album has long since gone.

Spotify Saturday Special: Estimated OCC Rules Top 50 Update

 

01 Sabrina Carpenter – Espresso

02 Hozier – Too Sweet

03 Artemas – i like the way you kiss me

04 Shaboozey – A Bar Song (Tipsy)

05 Taylor Swift, Post Malone – Fortnight (feat. Post Malone)

06 Benson Boone – Beautiful Things

07 Kendrick Lamar – euphoria

08 Dasha – Austin

09 Teddy Swims – Lose Control

10 Taylor Swift – I Can Do It With a Broken Heart

 

11 Mark Ambor – Belong Together

12 Ariana Grande – we can't be friends (wait for your love)

13 Tommy Richman – MILLION DOLLAR BABY

14 Michael Marcagi – Scared To Start

15 Taylor Swift – Down Bad

16 Lay Bankz – Tell Ur Girlfriend

17 Benson Boone – Slow It Down

18 Chappell Roan – Good Luck, Babe!

19 Dua Lipa – Illusion

20 Noah Kahan – Stick Season †

 

21 Badger, Natasha Bedingfield – These Words

22 Bryson Tiller – Whatever She Wants

23 Future, Metro Boomin, Kendrick Lamar – Like That

24 Dua Lipa – These Walls

25 Natasha Bedingfield – Unwritten

26 Dua Lipa – Training Season *

27 SZA – Saturn

28 Drake – Push Ups

29 The Blessed Madonna, Clementine Douglas – Happier (feat. Clementine Douglas)

30 Djo – End of Beginning †

 

31 Mark Ronson, Amy Winehouse – Valerie (feat. Amy Winehouse) - Version Revisited

32 Good Neighbours – Home

33 Jungle – Back On 74

34 David Guetta, OneRepublic – I Don't Wanna Wait

35 cassö, RAYE, D-Block Europe – Prada †

36 Richy Mitch & The Coal Miners – Evergreen

37 NewEra – Birds In The Sky

38 Tyla, Gunna, Skillibeng – Jump

39 Beyoncé – TEXAS HOLD 'EM †

40 Amy Winehouse – Back To Black

 

41 Travis Scott, Playboi Carti – FE!N (feat. Playboi Carti)

42 Pozer – Malicious Intentions

43 Bakar, Summer Walker – Hell N Back (feat. Summer Walker)

44 Rudimental, Skepsis, Charlotte Plank, Riko Dan – Green & Gold (feat. Charlotte Plank & Riko Dan)

45 Headie One, Stormzy, Tay Keith – Cry No More (feat. Stormzy & Tay Keith)

46 Yeat – If We Being Rëal

47 Tate McRae – greedy †

48 Amy Winehouse – Tears Dry On Their Own

49 Jaxomy, Agatino Romero, Raffaella Carrà – Pedro

50 FloyyMenor, Cris Mj – Gata Only

 

† ACR applied

* SCR reset presumed

I’m not surprised for Dua. It’s a decent album but very beige. No major standouts unlike future nostalgia, where every song sounded like a hit.

there's clearly no fourth hit on that album as it stands but I expect there'll be a deluxe edition of some kind before the year-end

 

Really? I think a few songs could make decent singles. "Whatcha Doing", "Falling Forever" & "Maria" could all do well.

 

I also think "Happy For You" could be a sleeper hit as well. A nice change of pace from usual Dua.

 

Fingers crossed some of the songs go viral on TikTok.

 

I think they should do a 4th single with a significant feature. Perhaps "Happy For You (feat. Ariana Grande)" (Her vocals in the chorus give me slight Ari vibes) or something.

 

Then release a deluxe version later this year with a big mid-tempo ballad-type smash.

 

Whilst the initial numbers are disappointing, we could see the album hold on better than expected in streaming and in the long-term become a success with more singles/a deluxe version etc.

 

Also I've had Sabrina's "Espresso" play every single time I finish going through Dua's album. :lol: Not that I'm complaining. :wub:

Edited May 4, 20241 yr by Envoirment

Interesting that the 'VHS' version of 'Million Dollar Baby' hasn't charted over here yet, it's at #30 in the US.

It is what it is! Oh well.

 

I hope she can pull it back and not end up having a Witness the next era!

 

You missed the memo - this IS her doing a Witness!!

 

You missed the memo - this IS her doing a Witness!!

 

I was going to say, Prism had two of Katy’s biggest hits!

I was going to say, Prism had two of Katy’s biggest hits!

 

Exactly!!! Plus had two HUGE unreleased songs on it, plus Birthday could have easly smashed - see Maroon 5- comin aftee two hits, plus better marketing!!

Exactly!!! Plus had two HUGE unreleased songs on it, plus Birthday could have easly smashed - see Maroon 5- comin aftee two hits, plus better marketing!!

 

Katy ruined all chances of "Birthday" smashing with the music video. :( Her music videos were a big part of her songs doing so well but the "Birthday" music video just wasn't it. The lyric video has 4x more views than the actual video.

 

I remember being excited her team picked it as the next single as it was a smash in the making and following the momentum of "Dark Horse" it should've been an easy top 10 hit. I was hoping she would've went all out with a sexy music video and even doing a Marilyn Monroe tribute on the part she whispers Happy Birthday.

 

Instead we got a video of Katy's humour.... :snif:

Really? I think a few songs could make decent singles. "Whatcha Doing", "Falling Forever" & "Maria" could all do well.

 

I also think "Happy For You" could be a sleeper hit as well. A nice change of pace from usual Dua.

 

They’re average album tracks at best though.

Katy ruined all chances of "Birthday" smashing with the music video. :( Her music videos were a big part of her songs doing so well but the "Birthday" music video just wasn't it. The lyric video has 4x more views than the actual video.

 

I remember being excited her team picked it as the next single as it was a smash in the making and following the momentum of "Dark Horse" it should've been an easy top 10 hit. I was hoping she would've went all out with a sexy music video and even doing a Marilyn Monroe tribute on the part she whispers Happy Birthday.

 

Instead we got a video of Katy's humour.... :snif:

 

A Marilyn Monroe video would have been perfect!!

 

Imagine a run of:

 

Roar

Dark Horse

Legendary Lovers

Walking on Air

Birthday

 

It would have rivalled Teenage Dream! Then she mase huge mistakes with singles with Witness too...

I don’t know why she didn’t put the Barbie single on the album? It sounds relatively similar and was a huge hit, it would have definitely helped streaming numbers and kept it around a bit longer from people listening to it. She’d also have a smash from this album on top.