May 29, 20241 yr I'm pretty disgusted with the way that Diane Abbott has been treated. The whole process has been designed to humiliate and belittle her as much as possible, ignoring how much of a contribution she has made over her long career, and how much of an icon and pioneering politician that she was. As Adam Bienkov says 'It's hard to avoid the conclusion that if Diane Abbott had been from the same faction of the Labour party as Keir Starmer then her treatment over the past year would have been very different' @1795835544645365858 Anyway, given the video below canvessing opinions in her constituency of Hackney North and Stoke Newington, I believe that she should stand as an independent anyway like Jeremy Corbyn is. p21a14Y_EJg
May 29, 20241 yr I refuse to watch the debates if only two leaders are invited. Meanwhile, Lloyd Russell-Moyle, my MP, has been suspended by the Labour Party which means he can’t be a Labour candidate. We’ll see who the party high command impose as a candidate.
May 29, 20241 yr Author I refuse to watch the debates if only two leaders are invited. Meanwhile, Lloyd Russell-Moyle, my MP, has been suspended by the Labour Party which means he can’t be a Labour candidate. We’ll see who the party high command impose as a candidate. Looking at the ITV schedule it looks like the other party leaders will be interviewed/invited to comment in a programme straight after the debate - presumably the only way to get round impartiality rules for the election and still have a head to head debate between our potential future PMs. On another note - I live in what would be considered a very safe Labour constituency - they'd win without any campaigning - but my MP still looks to be doing the door knocking side of things from a leaflet dropped through today while I was out. Looks like they're taking nothing for granted.
May 29, 20241 yr Looking at the ITV schedule it looks like the other party leaders will be interviewed/invited to comment in a programme straight after the debate - presumably the only way to get round impartiality rules for the election and still have a head to head debate between our potential future PMs. On another note - I live in what would be considered a very safe Labour constituency - they'd win without any campaigning - but my MP still looks to be doing the door knocking side of things from a leaflet dropped through today while I was out. Looks like they're taking nothing for granted. How far are you from a marginal seat? If there is nowhere reasonably close to send activists, they will be encouraged to work in your constituency.
May 29, 20241 yr Pretty bad day for Labour to have deselection fights with left-wing MPs showing up. Factionalism from the likes of Streeting is them doing their best to sabotage the party's chances while trying to block any left-wing voices in the next Parliament. Abbott's been treated awfully. I hope that comes up during the debate.
May 29, 20241 yr Pretty bad day for Labour to have deselection fights with left-wing MPs showing up. Factionalism from the likes of Streeting is them doing their best to sabotage the party's chances while trying to block any left-wing voices in the next Parliament. Abbott's been treated awfully. I hope that comes up during the debate. It will all be forgotten about shortly. To be honest, this just shows why Labour HQ have decided to not select Abbott. Leaked her side to the media to cause hostility. Why would you have someone as an MP who is vocally hostile to the current leader and breaks protocol on a regular basis? No doubt she has had a great career and to be the first elected black MP is fantastic, but her views are so out of sync with the Labour Party at times, she's a liability unfortunately. Not sure they are alientating the views on the Left, I'd suggest they're more alienating the Corbyn loyalists. Not sure her de-selection has been handled in the best way, as it appears someone has leaked something, which is what is causing the backlash now rather than the retirement and seat in the Lords.
May 29, 20241 yr I refuse to watch the debates if only two leaders are invited. Meanwhile, Lloyd Russell-Moyle, my MP, has been suspended by the Labour Party which means he can’t be a Labour candidate. We’ll see who the party high command impose as a candidate. There’s usually seperate debates for the smaller parties. No point in having Sunak and Starmer and 5 other leaders who have a total of 50 MPs altogether What was he suspended for? Know he’s left wing so probably that!
May 29, 20241 yr Shows his selfish Diane Abbott is really to cause all this mess at such a crucial time
May 29, 20241 yr It will all be forgotten about shortly. To be honest, this just shows why Labour HQ have decided to not select Abbott. Leaked her side to the media to cause hostility. Why would you have someone as an MP who is vocally hostile to the current leader and breaks protocol on a regular basis? No doubt she has had a great career and to be the first elected black MP is fantastic, but her views are so out of sync with the Labour Party at times, she's a liability unfortunately. Not sure they are alientating the views on the Left, I'd suggest they're more alienating the Corbyn loyalists. Not sure her de-selection has been handled in the best way, as it appears someone has leaked something, which is what is causing the backlash now rather than the retirement and seat in the Lords. I honestly don’t know where to start with this centrist bias. The sentence when you said ‘shows why Labour HQ have decided not to select her’ says it all really!
May 29, 20241 yr There’s usually seperate debates for the smaller parties. No point in having Sunak and Starmer and 5 other leaders who have a total of 50 MPs altogether What was he suspended for? Know he’s left wing so probably that! This is basically what he's said about it: View this post on Instagram
May 29, 20241 yr This storm is growing as the day goes on for Starmer - Faiza Shaheen now is not being allowed to run in Chingford, one of the few seats that Labour increased their vote in in 2019 again on spurious claims of previous likes on Twitter. Imagine these purges were happening under a left wing leader 🤔
May 29, 20241 yr I just hope the public remember through all the pre-election media the last 14 years of government. It’s a big ask.
May 29, 20241 yr I remember Faiza from 2019, she should have beaten IDS then, I was pleased to see she'd been selected again and now, the Labour Party's giving up on one of its most promising advocates apparently for liking a tweet, meanwhile selecting Luke Akehurst, a despicable pro-Israel character with no shortage of dodgy tweets online over the years. It will all be forgotten about shortly. To be honest, this just shows why Labour HQ have decided to not select Abbott. Leaked her side to the media to cause hostility. Why would you have someone as an MP who is vocally hostile to the current leader and breaks protocol on a regular basis? No doubt she has had a great career and to be the first elected black MP is fantastic, but her views are so out of sync with the Labour Party at times, she's a liability unfortunately. Not sure they are alientating the views on the Left, I'd suggest they're more alienating the Corbyn loyalists. Not sure her de-selection has been handled in the best way, as it appears someone has leaked something, which is what is causing the backlash now rather than the retirement and seat in the Lords. It's not so much its effect on Labour's chances I'm concerned with, but the governance afterward. The PLP is going to be huge and it seems mostly aligned with Starmer, with very little input from the left, which the country really really needs after years of right of centre governance. This is very clearly about purging any left MP they can get away with, meaning there will be fewer advocates to push Labour left in government. The most important moments in British politics are decided in backroom selection processes and the Labour leadership are ideologically controlling them so no left thoughts emerge again even as the country seems to be demanding it for the first election cycle in years. Abbott I could understand, even as I wish her the best in protecting her legacy, but adding in Shaheen, Russell Moyle, Begum, it's a miracle Zarah Sultana and Nadia Whittome still seem to be selected, we hope. Shows his selfish Diane Abbott is really to cause all this mess at such a crucial time I think it's very clearly the Labour leadership messing her about that's caused this, they could have finished all this process up months ago and gave her good concessions like letting her retire and promising an ideologically similar successor if they were willing to work with her for the good of Hackney, but they definitely have not done that.
May 29, 20241 yr This storm is growing as the day goes on for Starmer - Faiza Shaheen now is not being allowed to run in Chingford, one of the few seats that Labour increased their vote in in 2019 again on spurious claims of previous likes on Twitter. Imagine these purges were happening under a left wing leader 🤔 Broken loads of rules, liked racist material, already on a warning allegedly and decides to endorse Green candidates. I don't think it matters what your political views are, you can't endorse other Party candidates. I'd say it's either incredibly stupid from her or she knew what she was doing and she's looking for something else or become a political martyr.
May 30, 20241 yr The material in question she liked was from the John Stewart show in America - clearly the centre of anti semetism in liberal America!
May 30, 20241 yr Author The material in question she liked was from the John Stewart show in America - clearly the centre of anti semetism in liberal America! I think it's endorsing Green candidates that's the issue. Starmer rightly called on Sunak to get rid of Lucy Allan for endorsing Reform, he kind of has to show the same principles. I doubt this or the Abbot stuff will have a massive effect on polling but we'll see in a few days.
May 30, 20241 yr She liked these Green tweets when she wasn’t even in the party. As I said Natalie Elphick literally was in a different party until a few weeks ago and she was one of the right wing populists in the party before even going into the claims about her partner. Surely that’s much worse….
May 30, 20241 yr I’m too busy to laugh at Sunak. I don’t find him at all funny. This should be politics not entertainment. People conflating the two is the reason why the last five years in particular have been an absolute nightmare to live through. But I guess as long as people get their lols. and indeed it would be if our nation had not initially voted in a laughing stock ~5 years ago/voted Conservative in 2017... all of it is laughable, neither party are fit to run the country, both are complicit in a genocide to varying degrees. these are two men, neither of whom are in touch with the needs of British people + indeed the action necessary regarding various global conflicts you may be too busy to laugh (whatever that means, I'm busy too but still have the time to acknowledge the sheer misery of this whole situation), but I cannot help but laugh in despair that we went from nearly voting in Corbyn six years ago to being stuck with Sunak or Starmer in 2024 Edited May 30, 20241 yr by hinterland
May 30, 20241 yr Luke Akehurst being parachuted into a safe seat says everything about this rendition of Labour and their views on racism. It's also truly laughable to suggest anything other than pure factionalism when Neil Coyle has been reselected.
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