June 12, 20241 yr I can fully picture the Tories going full Trump if they lose, with the whole "this election was fixed" angle. Hopefully the British public will be less tolerant of it.
June 12, 20241 yr Author I can fully picture the Tories going full Trump if they lose, with the whole "this election was fixed" angle. Hopefully the British public will be less tolerant of it. They'll blame Reform voters for not voting Tory - ignoring the numerous elections they wouldn't have won if it wasn't for a split vote on the other side of the coin. I really hope they come 3rd or even 4th in popular vote-share just to hammer home the point the public is done with them.
June 12, 20241 yr Author One of Sunak's aides bet on the date of the election days before it was called. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/articl...re-announcement
June 12, 20241 yr One of Sunak's aides bet on the date of the election days before it was called. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/articl...re-announcement Essentially insider trading/fraud. Should be a jail offense. Watching this sky news debate now and Keir really not coming across well. Beth is asking pretty loaded questions but he is handling it terrible
June 12, 20241 yr Author Essentially insider trading/fraud. Should be a jail offense. Watching this sky news debate now and Keir really not coming across well. Beth is asking pretty loaded questions but he is handling it terrible I've managed to avoid all the debates including this one so far and will continue this streak until 4 July. That said Starmer's performance in them is making me reconsider voting Labour. Edited June 12, 20241 yr by DoBelieveTheHype
June 12, 20241 yr I've managed to avoid all the debates including this one so far and will continue this streak until 4 July. That said Starmer's performance in them is making me reconsider voting Labour. You definitely made the right decision, its a terrible format and insufferable viewing but ill watch anyway
June 12, 20241 yr That said Starmer's performance in them is making me reconsider voting Labour. His performance in the debates, by your own admission you haven't watched? :lol:
June 12, 20241 yr To make it slightly less awful I've been taking a shot everytime Sir Keir says 'my father was a toolmaker'.
June 12, 20241 yr Author His performance in the debates, by your own admission you haven't watched? :lol: I don't see the need for the laughing emoji. The reports I've seen clearly show him struggling when he's actually questioned even if I haven't actually seen the debates. I may vote Labour due to a good local MP but to be honest could end up voting Lib Dem.
June 12, 20241 yr I don't see the need for the laughing emoji. The reports I've seen clearly show him struggling when he's actually questioned even if I haven't actually seen the debates. I may vote Labour due to a good local MP but to be honest could end up voting Lib Dem. These interviews are designed for the headlines and the big 'gotcha' moment. Sounds like Sunak is getting roasted.
June 12, 20241 yr When they’ve lost The Telegraph, you know they’re doomed - @1800939951309156548 :lol: If reforms' current polling numbers continue into the actual election and a decent amount of people vote tactically for Lib dems/Labour, we could see the conservatives quite easily below 100 seats...!
June 12, 20241 yr To make it slightly less awful I've been taking a shot everytime Sir Keir says 'my father was a toolmaker'. :lol: kinda makes me think his father was Joseph and his mum was the Virgin Mary!
June 13, 20241 yr I do think Beth Rigby style is really dumbed down. Both with Sunak and Starmer. She would ask a loaded question not understand the answer and then read off a conclusion she already had and move on like that made sense. For example she asked Sunak why he hadn't got a number down and he explained it has been coming down a lot every month for the last 5 months and she just went but from 18 months ago when you said you'd get it down its not down so its going up, and again he tried t explain it is NOW coming down and she again thought it was going up and tried to phrase her conclusion like it was going up. A very mild point but it irked me, we have some really average journalists in this country who just look for soundbites and headlines rather than making sense. I honestly thought both were bad but Starmer did better with the audience but by most accounts Rishi came off worse
June 13, 20241 yr Again it's like, who is the Corbyn bashing for? People who voted Labour last election, most of them anyway, will be put off by the insistence that Starmer never believed in it at all and has changed the party, and people who didn't vote Labour last election will hear the Corbyn associations and see him as struggling to shake off the associations. Wheels are going to come off them pretty quickly once the press turn on them in government if this is an indication of how they handle simple questions like 'can we trust you'? Did feel like Starmer's first big grilling of the campaign, and good, if Labour are going to win they need to understand the press won't always be as compliant as they have been of late.
June 13, 20241 yr https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/1801195574613410067?s=46 Sabrina has a rival for next weeks #1
June 13, 20241 yr Author https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/1801195574613410067?s=46 Sabrina has a rival for next weeks #1 So much for a return to serious politics under Starmer.
June 13, 20241 yr https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/1801195574613410067?s=46 Sabrina has a rival for next weeks #1Jesus. Politicians trying to be cool never works for me, which is why I don't get the criticisms about Starmer being dull. Give me dull any day if the person is actually competent.
June 13, 20241 yr Oi, leave Dawn Butler alone it's good cringe Starmer's dullness is not going to land well once the shiny fascism/populism forces start inevitably rising over the next parliament. Underwhelmed by the Labour manifesto, nothing there that particularly excites me and a lot in there that worries me that they're going to rise to meet the challenge, like giving into austerity without calling it austerity with this pigheaded focus on how much things cost.
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