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Owen Jones demonstrates what is so wrong with the left of the Labour Party. He gives the impression that he would prefer opposition to a Labour government that he can only agree with 50% of the time. He claims to support people on a low income, but by refusing to support a Labour party that agrees with him on everything, he is doing exactly the opposite.

 

Problem is what if a Labour government isnt actually helping people on low incomes due to their policies.

 

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:lol: yous think they were the Murdochs the way your talking. Pretty sure he’s happy to agree with them considering they are the modern face of the Bennite left!

 

I'm sure he is and I'm sure he's happy to take the donations too.

 

Problem is what if a Labour government isnt actually helping people on low incomes due to their policies.

 

Has there ever been a Labour government that has not helped people on low incomes due to their policies? Nobody knows the majority of the Labour policies so far and while I do think the stratgeosts need to be careful not to over-do things. I think the issue I have (and a lot of other people have) is I reckon Starmer could find a way to get every single household well above the poverty line and Owen Jones would still complain.

Extra resources to campaign, or more money for the areas, like a bribe, like authoritarian fash Blojo promised?
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Extra resources to campaign, or more money for the areas, like a bribe, like authoritarian fash Blojo promised?

 

Extra resources for campaigning such as 'printed material'. I can't be the only one who thinks the bare minimum for any campaign should be some printed material through the door regardless of the safeness of the seat - I live in a safe Labour seat and we normally still get a pamphlet through anyway. Are the Conservatives not send pamphlets out in safe seats for some reason?

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So an interesting development today as Rishi Sunak fires the starting gun on his election campaign with the slogan "Who Do You Trust To Keep You Safe?" - arguing that only a Conservatives can keep us safe. It's an interesting tactic and perhaps a sign that he realises he can't fight the election on any of the usual issues as his government is failing on them.

 

A quick scan of reddit and the guardian comments shows no ones buying it.

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Guardian comments won't buy it anyway I would have thought. :P But as everything is so utterly shite in this country now, this won't work either as the Tories have been in power 14 effing years and so all has gone to pot on their watch. And more importantly, no one likes Sunak. He doesn't even have a cult following like Bravermann, Truss do.
So an interesting development today as Rishi Sunak fires the starting gun on his election campaign with the slogan "Who Do You Trust To Keep You Safe?" - arguing that only a Conservatives can keep us safe. It's an interesting tactic and perhaps a sign that he realises he can't fight the election on any of the usual issues as his government is failing on them.

 

A quick scan of reddit and the guardian comments shows no ones buying it.

 

I don't think anyone can buy this against Starmer. I know loads of people hate him and think he's not left enough, but not sure there are any fears to play in to here. And even taking politics aside for a moment.. do people really feel safe? I'm sure things have got worse in that regard with respect to this Government.

Employing more teachers is a noble goal but how exactly will he do this? Teacher recruitment and retention will only improve if the conditions of the job do.

Teachers aren’t something you can just magic up overnight either. They have to be trained. How are they going to get more people training as teachers?

 

These are Wooly at best

Not a patch on Corbyn's manifesto, which was a thing of beauty. Unfortunateky, people wanted an arrogant, poor-hating Etonian, poah boy charlatan, with all the intelligence of a sea sponge.
Defence has been shown to be the only measure currently the tories are ahead of Labour on in the polls so no surprise they are pushing that!

Love the fact yesterday Labour launched their vision for the future and how they want to shape things for the next 10 years...

 

Sunak meanwhile appears on Loose Women and gets grilled by Judi Love and fails spectacularly... i'm guessing he's trying for the Karen/ Facebook Mum vote

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Rishi is like one of them pretty capable students with no street sense at all. He has lost every type of voter you can imagine
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Defence has been shown to be the only measure currently the tories are ahead of Labour on in the polls so no surprise they are pushing that!

 

Given how messed up they've managed to make army recruitment they have no right to be ahead on defence.

 

Hopefully Kier and the rest of the party can rip a new one into him on this, given there's so much that's gone wrong in that field. I don't think "who do you trust to keep you safe?" framing of the election is going to do much or anything for the Tories - similarly rhetoric worked when Corbyn was in charge of Labour but it's not going to go anywhere with Kier in place and his background.

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Imagine being a Prime Minister and making an ass of yourself on LOOSE WOMEN of all things :lol:

 

I felt like he was given a far too easy ride. The presenters would challenge him, let him talk his way out of it and then just nod in agreement. -_-

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