I think it’s a big misstep, the VMAs isn’t the platform it once was anyway. They won’t make her much bigger than she is currently, I think in the long-term doing the shows would have been the right decision. It could have been kind of iconic, like Madonna performing at Camden Palace right at the start of her stardom, those fans that got to go would have cherished that memory. Now she’s pissed off European fans, at this stage in her career that’s not wise. Touring is something that you really need to build a good reputation for, I’m a Janet stan but the amount of tours she’s cancelled really puts me off making any solid plans to see her. Same with artists like JLo and Gwen that just didn’t really bother to tour very much at the peak of their fame and now struggle to sell out shows when they do tour, you really need to be consistent.

 

Not to start any rivalries but Taylor’s Vienna shows were only the third time she’s cancelled shows in her two decades of performing, and she cancels only under the most dire of circumstances. I’m not a massive Taylor fan but I admire her work ethic. Artists nowadays are much too flippant with cancelling shows and treating these commitments like they’re optional, of course they’re human too but literally thousands of people are losing out on hundreds if not thousands of their hard-earned cash because something better came up for the artist. It’s really not on and not justifiable in this case.

Hopefully she will reschedule the shows (perhaps there’s no availability to rebook in that particular venue atm? It just seems odd to reschedule one show but cancel the others) but the VMAs are still one of the biggest pop music events of the year and it’s surely every upcoming artist’s dream to perform there. On the positive side, an iconic performance may be uponeth us! :cheeseblock:

who cares about the stupid VMAs, touring should be priority #1 if you have a tour booked

who cares about the stupid VMAs, touring should be priority #1 if you have a tour booked

 

This absolutely 💯

VMA’s is a big deal still, worldwide audience, various social media clips, first time ever for her too. Plus it’s been a big year for her, next year might be someone else and she might not get the chance to perform so she had to take it for sure. The other stuff is unfortunate but this is the world of showbiz

I see the argument, my only issue is more so with claiming to not care about fame and wanting to just make music and then making a choice like this that totally puts a lie to that.

 

It's a claim that for example if I was a music artist I wouldn't make in the first place, a) because it wouldn't be true, and b) because of so much potential for it to come back and bite you in the bum if a situation like this arises where you have to end up then making this choice.

 

It was an obvious mistake to make and her apology was poor as well. An artist that truly cared about keeping it real with the fans and giving back, once again, would have made a better apology and possibly offered some kind of gift to fans to make up for it.

Yeah that explanation or "apology" was pretty much worth nothing. She didn't even mentioned WHY she had schedule conflict - the VMAs are just an assumption.

I think it’s a big misstep, the VMAs isn’t the platform it once was anyway. They won’t make her much bigger than she is currently, I think in the long-term doing the shows would have been the right decision. It could have been kind of iconic, like Madonna performing at Camden Palace right at the start of her stardom, those fans that got to go would have cherished that memory. Now she’s pissed off European fans, at this stage in her career that’s not wise. Touring is something that you really need to build a good reputation for, I’m a Janet stan but the amount of tours she’s cancelled really puts me off making any solid plans to see her. Same with artists like JLo and Gwen that just didn’t really bother to tour very much at the peak of their fame and now struggle to sell out shows when they do tour, you really need to be consistent, I think alot felt the same way as she flopped after that.

 

Not to start any rivalries but Taylor’s Vienna shows were only the third time she’s cancelled shows in her two decades of performing, and she cancels only under the most dire of circumstances. I’m not a massive Taylor fan but I admire her work ethic. Artists nowadays are much too flippant with cancelling shows and treating these commitments like they’re optional, of course they’re human too but literally thousands of people are losing out on hundreds if not thousands of their hard-earned cash because something better came up for the artist. It’s really not on and not justifiable in this case.

Natasha bedingfield cancelled her whole tour so she could record music in America, I never forgave her for that.

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I see the argument, my only issue is more so with claiming to not care about fame and wanting to just make music and then making a choice like this that totally puts a lie to that.

 

But surely there's a difference between chasing fame and wanting to perform at a prestigious music event that will likely open doors to other opportunities for her? :P (not saying that's definitely the case/not the case but I wouldn't say it's a foregone conclusion either :lol:).

If Taylor had cancelled one of her eras dates to perform say at the Olympic opening ceremony, would you feel the same way then? Curious as I just can't see how people can justify cancelling for vmas when people will lose money

But surely there's a difference between chasing fame and wanting to perform at a prestigious music event that will likely open doors to other opportunities for her? :P (not saying that's definitely the case/not the case but I wouldn't say it's a foregone conclusion either :lol:).

 

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Sorry I'm not sure I understand how that's in any way different.

 

Why does she want those opportunities if not to grow her career and become more famous and richer?

Tbh I don't really understand the claim in the first place that someone wants to be a pop singer as their full time career, release radio songs and music videos and work in an industry that requires to be successful, significant funding, and fans willing to purchase, yet they don't care about fame or money. Without fame and funding that career wouldn't exist except for people who are already very wealthy to do as a hobby...

I think people often forget being a musician is their job, they have to make career based decisions that may or may not align with what they want on a personal level, it's not always as black and white.

 

I think people are far too pressed about this for what it is, it sucks but people are acting as if she's hate crime'd an entire country. I think performing at the VMAs is a milestone for any rising artist, it's just a shame it clashed with her tour dates. She may not have rescheduled dates now but it's extremely likely she will have new dates once she can secure them.

 

There always seems to be a brigade of people waiting to find something "wrong" with any person gaining popularity quickly, especially women, so to me this is all that is, it's being dramatised so people that want to jump on Chappell have an excuse they can stretch.

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Sorry I'm not sure I understand how that's in any way different.

 

Why does she want those opportunities if not to grow her career and become more famous and richer?

 

I 100% know what Scene is saying with that also, of course you want your music to reach as many people as possible as an artist as that's what largely measures success, the VMAs is an opportunity to do that, it doesn't mean she also has the motive of wanting to be rich and famous. There's successful fame which is what I can see Chappell aiming for then there's celebrity fame. Think Lady Gaga or Emma Stone or someone known for being good at what they do so have gained recognition for that vs the Kardashians or any reality star really where it's very evident they just want that celebrity status.

 

Not sure if we are just understanding something different from word use here. Not sure we actually disagree.

All of the Chappell Roan hate and criticism from everyone is so forced. Jesus Christ.

I think people often forget being a musician is their job, they have to make career based decisions that may or may not align with what they want on a personal level, it's not always as black and white.

 

I think people are far too pressed about this for what it is, it sucks but people are acting as if she's hate crime'd an entire country. I think performing at the VMAs is a milestone for any rising artist, it's just a shame it clashed with her tour dates. She may not have rescheduled dates now but it's extremely likely she will have new dates once she can secure them.

 

There always seems to be a brigade of people waiting to find something "wrong" with any person gaining popularity quickly, especially women, so to me this is all that is, it's being dramatised so people that want to jump on Chappell have an excuse they can stretch.

 

This is what I was meant to say, only more articulate. :lol:

 

Also re: my previous post yep that’s pretty much what I meant too. :D

All of the Chappell Roan hate and criticism from everyone is so forced. Jesus Christ.

 

:rolleyes: it's not hate to say this all was very poorly handled and unnecessary - she could've just reschedule the tour and that's it.

:rolleyes: it's not hate to say this all was very poorly handled and unnecessary - she could've just reschedule the tour and that's it.

This is my view too - rescheduling the dates would have significantly reduced the level of criticism she'd be receiving, IMO. It's the outright cancellation for the sake of the VMAs, rather than a "why not both?" situation where the gig dates simply get rescheduled. Whether it's the label/promoter/etc or Chappell herself who didn't want to reschedule, we'll never know, but I can totally appreciate why that, coupled with the video about fan behaviour, could be seen as offputting for her hardcore, long-time fans after everything.

The VMA’s was a big success for her, she made the right decision for sure