wow incredible result x Tyler but why why why he released on Monday losing 3 days of streams

there's not much you can do in 4 days

 

in the US he has crazy figures, >5 million for the top song

Tyler winning out I love to see!!!

I mean, I was thinking that unless you're gunning for the #1 spot, does anyone really need to release on a Friday? You might get a slightly different peak, but anyone with experience with charts is just gonna recognise the inevitable drop off and then take away the credibility of the position. Something like 'oh that's just an album bomb*/that's just fanbase curiosity streams'. Even as a chart watcher myself, the novelty of 'wow, this artist who isn't known for populating the pop charts was really high on them for a week or two' diminishes. In the long run, "IGOR" & "Flower Boy" are getting more streams than any Drake album currently, who cares that they didn't do 100 million on their first week? Btw, the only top 10 hit Tyler has had anywhere is "EARFQUAKE" which did so in Australia and New Zealand, and it peaked on the second week.

 

I actually probably wouldn't have gotten to "CHROMAKOPIA" in a hurry if it were released on a Friday. I'm always so worn out on new singles that I'm not in the mood to check out new albums, but the Monday release on its own worked great.

 

*Really dislike this term. Reeks of people coming up with a dismissive term to describe something they don't like (ala bro-step, skip-hop) and that's never a good foundation

wow incredible result x Tyler but why why why he released on Monday losing 3 days of streams

there's not much you can do in 4 days

 

in the US he has crazy figures, >5 million for the top song

 

He prefers this more than he cares about charting. He'd rather you talk about his album all week then he would land a number 1

you could have both, don't see why not

you could have both, don't see why not

 

Not really, a ton of debuts get lost between Friday and Monday. Especially when there's 10 other debuts happening the same day. The numbers speak for themselves, one of the biggest debuts of the year on Spotify and challenging for a top 10 in multiple countries where he never has

Edited October 29, 2024Oct 29 by EmailsICantChase

I prefer to hear artists who make albums so people can play it, and you actually hear it. You know, drive in your car, you hear another car playin it? Go to the barber shop, hear them playin' it? You know, turn the radio on, you hear them playin' it? You know, it's playin' everywhere. It's called great music. It's called albums that you actually hear the songs. Not no mysterious shit, and you never hear it.

 

So you only listen to mainstream music and curated playlists, got it.

So you only listen to mainstream music and curated playlists, got it.

 

It's a reference to DJ Khaled getting mad at Tyler beating him to Billboard number 1 :D

Not really, a ton of debuts get lost between Friday and Monday. Especially when there's 10 other debuts happening the same day. The numbers speak for themselves, one of the biggest debuts of the year on Spotify and challenging for a top 10 in multiple countries where he never has

Im pretty sure same would have happened if released on Fri, maybe even higher streams

You're projecting your own personal experience into what others do, which is not the case

Most people don't give a damn about new releases and care much more about a big artist like Tyler dropping a new album

also there was zero competition last Friday, no other big album release

It's a reference to DJ Khaled getting mad at Tyler beating him to Billboard number 1 :D

thankfully he still had enough leftover energy drinks to wash the salty taste away :teresa:

Im pretty sure same would have happened if released on Fri, maybe even higher streams

You're projecting your own personal experience into what others do, which is not the case

Most people don't give a damn about new releases and care much more about a big artist like Tyler dropping a new album

also there was zero competition last Friday, no other big album release

 

Dude hasn't had a top 20 hit in 5 years in the UK. Never has had a top 10 hit. When was the last time you saw someone that fits that description drop an album bomb, and suddenly challenge for multiple top 10 hits? You're telling me it has nothing to do with the fact he released it on a day nobody else was?

His fanbase IS huge though, and he has some very long-lasting streaming hits (See You Again in particular) - however I don't think it's fair to expect much longevity for these tracks considering Noid couldn't go top 40 last week when available. It got 4x the streams now as part of the album which means it's the album itself that is important. People who are interested in Tyler's music have now checked the album and we'll see if something from it truly clicks with people.

 

I think the album is pretty mid compared to his best work, especially Igor.

Edited October 29, 2024Oct 29 by Sour Candy

"Espresso" #28, 29 & 30 on Amazon. :lol:

 

Halloween songs moving up now with "Thriller" up to #21. Should go top 10 quite easily on the day I suspect.

 

One reason for "APT." falling is the 2nd version has gained a bit - up to #141 with the highest version at #64. Should see both versions climb quite a bit once the Halloween songs fall away as there are quite a few in the top 100/200.

 

Christmas songs starting to crack the top 1000 of the Amazon chart now too.

Spotify Chart Update (28/10)

 

01 NE Tyler, The Creator, Daniel Caesar – St. Chroma (feat. Daniel Caesar) 617,471 [*PEAK*]

02 49 Tyler, The Creator – Noid 516,366 [*PEAK*]

03 NE Tyler, The Creator – Rah Tah Tah 492,250 [*PEAK*]

04 01 Gigi Perez – Sailor Song 491,484

05 02 Sabrina Carpenter – Taste 482,929

06 NE Tyler, The Creator, Teezo Touchdown – Darling, I (feat. Teezo Touchdown) 464,279 [*PEAK*]

07 05 Gracie Abrams – That’s So True 378,268

08 03 Billie Eilish – BIRDS OF A FEATHER 372,396

09 NE Tyler, The Creator – Hey Jane 371,070 [*PEAK*]

10 04 Lady Gaga, Bruno Mars – Die With A Smile 360,040

 

11 NE Tyler, The Creator, GloRilla, Sexyy Red, Lil Wayne – Sticky (feat. GloRilla, Sexyy Red & Lil Wayne) 352,789 [*PEAK*]

12 06 Chappell Roan – Good Luck, Babe! 342,356

13 NE Tyler, The Creator – I Killed You 337,483 [*PEAK*]

14 NE Tyler, The Creator – Judge Judy 331,642 [*PEAK*]

15 07 Sabrina Carpenter – Espresso 322,919

16 08 ROSÉ, Bruno Mars – APT. 316,527

17 NE Tyler, The Creator, ScHoolboy Q, Santigold – Thought I Was Dead (feat. ScHoolboy Q & Santigold) 314,663 [*PEAK*]

18 NE Tyler, The Creator, Daniel Caesar, LaToiya Williams – Take Your Mask Off (feat. Daniel Caesar & LaToiya Williams) 314,246 [*PEAK*]

19 NE Tyler, The Creator – Tomorrow 285,905 [*PEAK*]

20 NE Tyler, The Creator, Lola Young – Like Him (feat. Lola Young) 273,372 [*PEAK*]

 

21 10 Gracie Abrams – I Love You, I'm Sorry 264,020

22 09 Benson Boone – Beautiful Things 254,059

23 NE Tyler, The Creator, Doechii – Balloon (feat. Doechii) 248,487 [*PEAK*]

24 13 Chappell Roan – HOT TO GO! 245,729

25 11 Sabrina Carpenter – Please Please Please 242,022

26 12 One Direction – Night Changes 241,929

27 14 Sabrina Carpenter – Bed Chem 234,846

28 15 Myles Smith – Stargazing 233,146

29 NE Tyler, The Creator – I Hope You Find Your Way Home 230,265 [*PEAK*]

30 18 BL3SS, CamrinWatsin, bbyclose – Kisses (feat. bbyclose) 228,977

 

31 16 Shaboozey – A Bar Song (Tipsy) 220,798

32 22 Addison Rae – Diet Pepsi 220,399

33 19 Hozier – Too Sweet 216,459

34 20 Noah Kahan – Stick Season 212,734

35 17 Teddy Swims – Lose Control 210,733

36 21 Billie Eilish – WILDFLOWER 202,539

37 24 Ndotz – Embrace It 196,880

38 26 Chase & Status, Stormzy – BACKBONE 193,192

39 23 One Direction – Story of My Life 190,619

40 25 Dasha – Austin (Boots Stop Workin') 187,140

 

43 28 Chappell Roan – Pink Pony Club 180,297

46 35 Sonny Fodera, Jazzy, D.O.D – Somedays 178,160

49 36 Lady Gaga – Disease 171,914

52 31 KSI, Trippie Redd – Thick Of It (feat. Trippie Redd) 166,347

56 40 Teddy Swims – The Door 148,815

61 50 Adam Port, Stryv, Keinemusik, Orso, Malachiii – Move 133,065

64 58 Linkin Park – The Emptiness Machine 126,072

98 93 Tate McRae – It's ok I'm ok 101,127

 

103 111 Gracie Abrams – Close To You 98,004

105 106 Surf Curse – Disco 97,599

120 109 Teddy Swims – Bad Dreams 93,698

122 110 Don Toliver – NEW DROP 93,328

123 114 Gracie Abrams – I Love You, I'm Sorry - Live From Vevo 93,122

128 130 Morgan Wallen – Love Somebody 92,414

144 135 Addison Rae – Aquamarine 87,666

149 152 A$AP Rocky, Imogen Heap, Clams Casino – I Smoked Away My Brain (I'm God x Demons Mashup) (feat. Imogen Heap & Clams Casino) 85,683

154 196 Linkin Park – Heavy Is the Crown 85,033

182 RE PAWSA – TOO COOL TO BE CARELESS 80,623

Apple Music Chart Update (29/10)

 

01 01 Sabrina Carpenter - Taste

02 02 Billie Eilish - BIRDS OF A FEATHER

03 04 Lady Gaga & Bruno Mars - Die With A Smile

04 03 Sabrina Carpenter - Espresso

05 11 Tyler, The Creator - St. Chroma

06 05 Shaboozey - A Bar Song (Tipsy)

07 06 Sonny Fodera, Jazzy & D.O.D - Somedays

08 07 Chappell Roan - Good Luck, Babe!

09 12 Gracie Abrams - That’s So True

10 08 Sabrina Carpenter - Please Please Please

 

11 25 Tyler, The Creator - Darling, I

12 20 Tyler, The Creator - Rah Tah Tah

13 10 Benson Boone - Beautiful Things

14 09 Lady Gaga - Disease

15 13 Myles Smith - Stargazing

16 15 Post Malone - I Had Some Help (feat. Morgan Wallen)

17 14 Gigi Perez - Sailor Song

18 16 Teddy Swims - Lose Control

19 17 Sabrina Carpenter - Bed Chem

20 18 Chase & Status & Stormzy - BACKBONE

 

21 28 Tyler, The Creator - Noid

22 19 Hozier - Too Sweet

23 30 Tyler, The Creator - Hey Jane

24 21 ROSÉ & Bruno Mars - APT.

25 24 Billie Eilish - WILDFLOWER

26 22 Gracie Abrams - I Love You, I'm Sorry

27 43 Tyler, The Creator - Sticky

28 23 Noah Kahan - Stick Season

29 27 Teddy Swims - The Door

30 26 Teddy Swims - Bad Dreams

 

31 41 Tyler, The Creator - Judge Judy

32 38 Tyler, The Creator - I Killed You

33 49 Tyler, The Creator - Take Your Mask Off

34 56 Tyler, The Creator - Thought I Was Dead

35 29 Sabrina Carpenter - Juno

36 31 Chappell Roan - Pink Pony Club

37 33 Adam Port, Stryv & Malachiii - Move

38 34 Dasha - Austin (Boots Stop Workin')

39 32 Chappell Roan - HOT TO GO!

40 36 The Weeknd - Dancing In The Flames

 

46 40 KSI - Thick Of It (feat. Trippie Redd)

50 46 Coldplay, Little Simz, Burna Boy, Elyanna & TINI - WE PRAY

51 48 Addison Rae - Diet Pepsi

53 50 Morgan Wallen - Love Somebody

55 47 One Direction - Story of My Life

57 54 Coldplay - feelslikeimfallinginlove

62 60 Swedish House Mafia & Alicia Keys - Finally

63 59 Charli xcx & Ariana Grande - Sympathy is a knife featuring ariana grande

67 64 LINKIN PARK - The Emptiness Machine

74 71 Wizkid - Piece of My Heart (feat. Brent Faiyaz)

81 79 Tate McRae - It's ok I'm ok

82 77 Ndotz - Embrace It

84 84 Sub Focus & Katy B - Push The Tempo

89 90 Andy C & Becky Hill - Indestructible

 

106 125 LINKIN PARK - Over Each Other

113 105 Crowded House - Don't Dream It's Over

114 118 Clean Bandit, Anne-Marie & David Guetta - Cry Baby

146 154 JADE - Fantasy

149 149 LINKIN PARK - Heavy Is the Crown

158 173 Alex Warren - Burning Down

172 197 Jazzy & KILIMANJARO - No Bad Vibes

189 198 Ella Henderson - Filthy Rich

200 NE Summer Walker - Heart Of A Woman

I don't understand how Tyler, The Creator is suddenly so huge! Was this is a highly anticipated release?

His fanbase IS huge though, and he has some very long-lasting streaming hits (See You Again in particular) - however I don't think it's fair to expect much longevity for these tracks considering Noid couldn't go top 40 last week when available. It got 4x the streams now as part of the album which means it's the album itself that is important. People who are interested in Tyler's music have now checked the album and we'll see if something from it truly clicks with people.

 

I think the album is pretty mid compared to his best work, especially Igor.

 

Not denying he's got a big fanbase, by any means. I just don't see any other reason he could've gained the way he's done here other than the day change. He hasn't had any huge hits or viral moments or controveries that get his name in the news, hasn't done anything that could grow his fanbase, and suddenly he's on pace to have the best week of his career with half of it non-existent. All of it adds up to him being right that debuting on a Monday is better

I don't understand how Tyler, The Creator is suddenly so huge! Was this is a highly anticipated release?

 

He’s been building a lot for the past few albums and isn’t really commercial in terms of his musical output!

Edited October 29, 2024Oct 29 by Steve201

perfect timing for Gaga releasing the video and it's very Halloween-esque

the best that could happen to the song is the video going viral

 

I like the song, easily her best pop song since The Fame days

but don't love it, maybe cos she's already done the whole disease metaphor, so seems a bit reductive to do it again

The video is brilliant and getting The Substance memes and references already. Let's see how it affects the song's chart performance.