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2 minutes ago, AcerBen said:

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Why the hell aren't OCC doing something to stop this madness

How exactly is this madness? If a song is popular it deserves to have that popularity reflected in a certification. A song should never be exempt from certifications based on its chart position or lack of one...

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    Good shout actually- 2nd semis will likely happen after next Friday so I'm thinking if there are any other songs certified next week we could have a mini-rate of them to choose a wildcard. Would make

The only "madness" is that the song never charted in the first place magic

(For what it's worth, I do think the 100:1 ratio for most, i.e. paid, streams to a sale is overgenerous for an all-time total, and had the OCC chosen 300:1 that might have kept some parity with the sales-only era for a while longer, but we're way past that now.)

I'd say its more testament to how the charts are broken that songs manage to do this without charting

They clearly are popular

7 hours ago, gasman449 said:

How exactly is this madness? If a song is popular it deserves to have that popularity reflected in a certification. A song should never be exempt from certifications based on its chart position or lack of one...


I'm not denying that it's popular, but 600,000 is clearly now way too low threshold for platinum if songs that have never made the top 40 can go triple platinum. I don't get why they haven't changed it when they have done in the past when the market has changed.


Also what Jim said.

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13 minutes ago, AcerBen said:


I'm not denying that it's popular, but 600,000 is clearly now way too low threshold for platinum if songs that have never made the top 40 can go triple platinum. I don't get why they haven't changed it when they have done in the past when the market has changed.

I would definitely agree that it's way too easy to go platinum now, they should move it back to the 250k silver, 500k gold and 1m platinum. But in the current climate the fact a song that never charted is consistently popular enough to achieve that many "sales" is still a very good achievement and nothing to be sneezed at!

Changing the threshold would make sense but the threshold itself is somewhat irrelevant as it is the same for every song. What’s actually important is the pure number in relation to other hits of the era. If you were to compare it to some big hits at the time I’m sure it’s done more sales which you can’t just ignore cos it didn’t chart at the time. If you want to see which songs were the biggest at the time, just look at the year end.

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437 tracks now as Coldplay's "Sparks" makes an unexpected top 40 entry!

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Just one extra track this week- "Alexander Hamilton" by Hamilton Cast, taking us back to 438 (actually 437, counted one song twice by mistake)

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3 entries for this week:

Alphaville - Forever Young - Platinum - peak #98

Catfish And The Bottlemen - Cocoon - 2x Platinum - didn't chart in the top 100

Duke Dumont - Ocean Drive - 2x Platinum - peak #42

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1 minute ago, DanielCarey said:

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2 entries for this week:

Alphaville - Forever Young - Platinum - peak #98

Catfish And The Bottlemen - Cocoon - 2x Platinum - didn't chart in the top 100

Thanks- "Ocean Drive" has also gone 2x platinum. Shame "Forever Young" didn't get certified earlier, would've been nice to have that as part of the rate... 437 tracks on the list now.

17 minutes ago, gasman449 said:

Thanks- "Ocean Drive" has also gone 2x platinum. Shame "Forever Young" didn't get certified earlier, would've been nice to have that as part of the rate... 437 tracks on the list now.

Why not add it as a wildcard in semi 2?We can’t say for sure it would have qualified but it’s pretty likely.

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Why not add it as a wildcard in semi 2?We can’t say for sure it would have qualified but it’s pretty likely.

Good shout actually- 2nd semis will likely happen after next Friday so I'm thinking if there are any other songs certified next week we could have a mini-rate of them to choose a wildcard. Would make it a little bit fairer imo

Only one new entry for this week (4th July 2025):

Bob Marley And The Wailers - Redemption Song - Platinum - Did not chart

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On 17/06/2025 at 16:20, 777666jason said:

I'd say its more testament to how the charts are broken that songs manage to do this without charting

They clearly are popular

Yes but I think the problem is that everything will reach this threshold with time. Reaching platinum in a calendar year is different than reaching it after 10-15 years. This system was made for a time when CDs and tapes would be printed and then stop being sold.

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