I’m glad she took accountability that she gets where the girls may be coming from by her exit. I also appreciate her saying she was horrible to be around and that she wasn’t as supportive as she should have been herself to the person who wanted to leave.

Also her confirming the suicide attempt :(

I agree sitting with a therapist seems fine but I guess if I was her I’d want the first conversation to be with just the girls and after that if not understood with a therapist.

I’m happy to hear the girls reached out. I hope all of this can be put to bed now.

She shouldn’t have mentioned Little Mix at all in this.

I’m sorry but Jesy’s mum saying the girls weren’t there for her when Jesy essentially allowed Nicki to bully a post partum Leigh Anne has made me furious.

Does she speak about the live?

6 minutes ago, Telephone said:

Does she speak about the live?

Nope.

I felt like she threw the other girls under the bus. You can see they supported Jesy endlessly for 9 years, 9 years of her not being happy, comforting her about how she looked etc...We've seen that so many times in backstage footage (Bounce Back video Jesy was Upset and Perrie from memory was hugging her?). Radio 1 performance all the girls went straight over to her even towards the end.

There comes a point where when someone's mental health is that bad no one really knows what to do. I don't understand why she was so upset about them wanting a therapist there? I get it would of been painful and awkward but I genuinely think they just wanted a professional present so they could all just sit down and talk it through especially when her mental health was that bad. Perhaps it was management's idea initially to cover their backs but it seems like a sensible idea.

I have no doubt people were fed up of trying to comfort her. I don't think that's from a nasty place either and deep down her whole team probably did have an air of sympathy but some people just don't understand mental health and unfortunately unless you've experienced Anxiety / Depression it's very difficult for some people to relate / truly understand.

I don't think she was coming from a bad place in everything she said, it was her side of the story and I'm sure she did want more from the girls when she was in that state and needed complete comfort from them. However, it's sad that she hasn't realised in my opinion it's too much to ask from someone due to the complexities of it all plus clearly the other girls were going through their own struggles / issues.

We knew it was Perrie who wanted to leave, which is fine but I must admit to hear Jesy was really upset over this also makes sense she was clearly struggling endlessly and probably felt like she had continuously forced herself to stay and now it was all about to be over and not on her terms it must of been hurtful (Even if Perrie had every right to leave) I get it also must of been so bloody hard for the other girls knowing it was coming to an end and having to continue to lie in interviews.

Despite all of this it actually made me emotional seeing them as a 4 again! Also, has anyone noticed all the girls do this thing where when they say certain things they change accents? They all do it!! It's wild and I really hope they continue to have conversations out of the public eye and do manage to get some sort of a friendship back. I think they really do need a conversation as a 4 (The conversation they were meant to have with the therapist) where all of them are just open / maybe some apologies and they can all just finally feel better about the whole thing.

I know sometimes people just naturally grow apart and maybe it can't ever be fixed but they'd all be mad not to all sit down eventually and just talk to each other openly,

25 minutes ago, Slayer said:

I agree sitting with a therapist seems fine but I guess if I was her I’d want the first conversation to be with just the girls and after that if not understood with a therapist.

Things could have gotten really inflamed without a therapist, as the first proper info they got was from her lawyers.

That took away the friendship and made it all "formal"

I think the girls were thoughtful and kind to even request a therapist!

3 minutes ago, Yousee said:

Things could have gotten really inflamed without a therapist, as the first proper info they got was from her lawyers.

That took away the friendship and made it all "formal"

I think the girls were thoughtful and kind to even request a therapist!

I actually agree with this the catalyst was her lawyer contacting management that would have freaked everyone out. Naturally, a therapist probably was called in by management as a precaution but at that stage they had no idea what route Jesy could go down (Damages etc...) I find it baffling why her and her mum wouldn't of realised this as uncomfortable as it was.

Jesy did an interview on This Morning and she confirmed she is STILL in contact with all of the girls and they speak and it has been healing😭😭😭

The other girls still did the reaching out. Says it all.

1 minute ago, Yousee said:

The other girls still did the reaching out. Says it all.

I don’t think we need to make this negative. If it was one sided they wouldn’t bother after the first attempt.

1 minute ago, Slayer said:

I don’t think we need to make this negative. If it was one sided they wouldn’t bother after the first attempt.

It's not really about Jesy; it's about the other three who have (from all indications) handled this maturely and humanely.

15 minutes ago, Slayer said:

Jesy did an interview on This Morning and she confirmed she is STILL in contact with all of the girls and they speak and it has been healing😭😭😭

Also, that they've reached out doesn't necessarily mean they've remained in contact. At least, that's not how I understand this clip.

Interesting that when Allison says "Perrie loves you", she replies, "Bless her".

It’s bizarre to me that upon hearing that the girls have reached out during what has been a horrible time for Jesy, the first reaction is to score points between them. People need to touch grass.

21 minutes ago, Slayer said:

I don’t think we need to make this negative. If it was one sided they wouldn’t bother after the first attempt.

She literally just released a documentary throwing the other girls under the bus.

I know she claims they've made contact but if I was one of the other girls I'd be quite upset watching this doc and seeing how Jesy/her Mum implied they weren't there for he.

Not watched it yet but the first spoiler point was pretty obvious given all the rumours we already know and the fact the only project as a 3 piece was a greatest hits

Id say Perrie is the most likely of the 3 given how open she has been with her own struggles recently, Jade was the most upset so probably rules her out, leigh does make sense but personally edging more towards Perrie, it did seem like they were forced to go on asa 3 piece a little longer because Jesy jumped prematurely

Full This Morning interview:

I wonder who's idea it was to not include the live, as that's what a massive proportion of the issues stemmed from, it would have been nice to see some acknowledgement or explanation there. I wonder if all the Maga Minaj headlines meant they edited it out of the documentary, or if they chose not to talk about it?

Maybe all is fine in the LM camp?

Anyone else crushing hard on Zion?

He has such a positive energy about him.