March 2, 200817 yr Wtf? A bit drastic. Kill someone, then get your own life taken away. What if it was a drink driving accident, should the driver have his life taken away? Meh, stupid idea.
March 2, 200817 yr True but there have been so many cases David Bentley Birmingham 6 Guildford 4 That headmaster that was convicted of murdering his daughter Eddie Browning Thats just 5 off the top of my head, with a bit of research I could probably make that 500 I am in favour of life meaning life, mandatory whole life tariff for murder and at least that way if new evidence is found then they can be released Ruth Ellis (yes - she did kill the git but with massive provocation and in France I think her offence would have been termed a 'crime of passion' - there used to be an old TV series in the 70's) Timothy Evans (10 Rillington Place) James Hanratty (still undecided - but if the same evidence were presented today - it would be very suspect) Having said that - I do believe that life should mean life - and prison should be a bloody hard punishment. What I have a problem is when you have people who have been convicted (they've admitted it) and show no remorse at all - in fact - they show off their crimes as a badge of honour. But then again I say 'they've admitted it' maybe they admit their guilt safe in the knowledge that there is no death penalty. I've changed my mind on this subject so many times and I probably will again. Norma
March 3, 200817 yr theres no one all encompasing answer... generally no... 99% of murders/accidental deaths would not warrant the death penalty. i think its a barabaric , medieval way of metering out punishment... however there are exceptions to the rule... ian huntley? ian brady? myra hindley? fred west? ... theres NO DOUBT at all that they did do the crime, also mass murderers, terrorists who have committed mass killing.
March 3, 200817 yr Why should they get the easy way out? However, a friend at work says bring back torture. Have to say he has a point, they should be made to suffer just like their victim(s), and the people that will be grieving.
March 3, 200817 yr NO Death Penalty, BUT Murderers to get LIFE - and I mean in the USA sense, where they can get 99 Years, 200 Years etc. in Jail - daft, but a way to ENSURE that they NEVER get out! Also, I'd have people who shout out things to Victims in Court given 5 Years in Jail. Like those awful swines who told the elderly father of a murdered Gay Man that his Son had caused their Mates to get sent to Jail! They said that the Man's Son was a 'f*****'. I'd have given the lot of they 5 Years each for THAT. (It was about 2 Years ago). Like the Woman whose Boy Friend, (& his Brother), got sent to Jail last Week - for smashing an old laddies face to bits, as they robbed her. She died. Then they went to a blokes house & terrorised him & his 12 Year old Daughter. When they got sent to Jail, the GF of one of them shouted to the Bloke in Court, 'Are you happy now you bast*rd?' I'd have given HER 5 Years for THAT! NO Death Penalty, but PROPER PUNISHMENTS IN JAIL TERMS!
March 3, 200817 yr Why should they get the easy way out? However, a friend at work says bring back torture. Have to say he has a point, they should be made to suffer just like their victim(s), and the people that will be grieving. What if it turns out they didn't do it ? A scenario for you Suppose a family member of yours a brother or an uncle or even Rob was arrested for a murder they never committed and convicted and jailed for life (it happens a lot) do you think they should be tortured ?
March 3, 200817 yr No, i don't think they should bring back the death penalty. I think it's just a cop out, i think murderers, child molesters, Paedophiles etc, should be made to suffer for what they have done to these people, then maybe they would wish they were dead. :angry:
March 3, 200817 yr :unsure: No. I am against the Death penalty, but when a murderer is given a life sentence, He or She should be made to serve that life sentence, not 25 years or 50 years but there entire life behind bars. :angry: They should be made to break rocks and made to do hard manual labour as the Americans make there prisoners do. Not like here in the UK. These people have taken someones life and should be made to pay for it for the rest of there life. No TVs, Games Consoles or Day releases, just a tiny cell with next to no light. This goes for terrorists and Rapists too. While they have not killed anyone they have destroyed a womans life and should be made to pay equally. :arrr:
March 4, 200817 yr Life sentence in a maximum security prison, yes...while we're at it, can some of the people serving time for insignificant crimes (not paying parking fines etc) be released to make some space?
March 4, 200817 yr Life sentence in a maximum security prison, yes...while we're at it, can some of the people serving time for insignificant crimes (not paying parking fines etc) be released to make some space? Totally agree.
March 4, 200817 yr :unsure: No. I am against the Death penalty, but when a murderer is given a life sentence, He or She should be made to serve that life sentence, not 25 years or 50 years but there entire life behind bars. :angry: They should be made to break rocks and made to do hard manual labour as the Americans make there prisoners do. Not like here in the UK. These people have taken someones life and should be made to pay for it for the rest of there life. No TVs, Games Consoles or Day releases, just a tiny cell with next to no light. This goes for terrorists and Rapists too. While they have not killed anyone they have destroyed a womans life and should be made to pay equally. :arrr: agreed Jail isn't as hard as it should be. The Re-Offence rate is far too high
March 4, 200817 yr Wtf? A bit drastic. Kill someone, then get your own life taken away. What if it was a drink driving accident, should the driver have his life taken away? Meh, stupid idea. :angry: Yes. Maybe not execution, but the rest of his or her life in prison. Anyone who knowingly gets into a vehicle after drinking should be sentenced to life in prison should they run someone down and kill them. That family can't have there Son or Daughter back and call me old fashioned but a life for a life. :arrr:
March 4, 200817 yr True but there have been so many cases David Bentley Birmingham 6 Guildford 4 That headmaster that was convicted of murdering his daughter Eddie Browning Thats just 5 off the top of my head, with a bit of research I could probably make that 500 I am in favour of life meaning life, mandatory whole life tariff for murder and at least that way if new evidence is found then they can be released Exactly... You cant exactly reanimate a bloody corpse can you...? And what do you then do about the situation where an innocent person has been sentenced to death..? Natural Justice would demand that you also put to death the jury who found them guilty, the witnesses who may have lied under oath, the judge who passed the sentence, the hangman who carried it out, the police who either botched the investigation or fitted-up an innocent man deliberately.... Lot of hypothetical corpses mounting up here...... -_- No, the Death Penalty is barbaric, goes against all senses of justice, and the facts that mistakes continue to be made in our justice system just scream out that to anyone with any sense that this is a very bad road to go down....
March 4, 200817 yr What if it turns out they didn't do it ? A scenario for you Suppose a family member of yours a brother or an uncle or even Rob was arrested for a murder they never committed and convicted and jailed for life (it happens a lot) do you think they should be tortured ? I only mean in cases of 100%.
March 5, 200817 yr I have no problem with the death penalty. I think it is a sensible thing to do when you have a convicted child molestor who has killed numerous children. People like that are sick and don't deserve to breathe, to be quite frank. And plus it is not my responsibility to pay for a convicted murder through my tax dollars to stay at a state prison to eat 3 square meals a day, have time to go outside and have a recess (because it would be wrong for the government to keep them in a cell all day :rolleyes: ) . They are put in conditions that many people around the world would LOVE to have, even people in MAJOR countries such as the US, where people don't have the money to feed their children or themselves, much less have a f***ing bed to sleep in. And people sputtering this "one person shouldn't murder another, just because they killed someone else!" bull$h!t, what is the use of someone who is a f***ING serial killer. Yeah lets just send them to a building where they don't have to do a damned thing, just sit in a cell, eat, go outside, get into gang fights and kill more people through gang communication within prisons. Yay, sounds like a f***ing blast. And in saying all that I am not saying all convicted murders should get the death penalty. But I think you all know by using a thing called common sense, that there are numerous cases where an individual deserved the death penalty. Edited March 5, 200817 yr by Tyler
March 5, 200817 yr But you don't seem to realize that many innocent people are convicted for crimes that they did not commit. o_o It happens all the time, and a few times they are sentenced for death. There was one man (known as the 'snaggle-tooth killer' I believe?) who nearly was killed, but ended up getting life in jail. Ten years later he was discovered as innocent. =/ Death is irreversible, and we should not take the risk, imo. Life in prison is a much more terrible punishment anyway. Living your life in prison for the rest of your life? Yeah, sounds like a ball of fun! It amazes me that the majority of the people who support the death penalty claim they are 'pro life'. -_-
March 5, 200817 yr I have no problem with the death penalty. I think it is a sensible thing to do when you have a convicted child molestor who has killed numerous children. People like that are sick and don't deserve to breathe, to be quite frank. And plus it is not my responsibility to pay for a convicted murder through my tax dollars to stay at a state prison to eat 3 square meals a day, have time to go outside and have a recess (because it would be wrong for the government to keep them in a cell all day :rolleyes: ) . They are put in conditions that many people around the world would LOVE to have, even people in MAJOR countries such as the US, where people don't have the money to feed their children or themselves, much less have a f***ing bed to sleep in. And people sputtering this "one person shouldn't murder another, just because they killed someone else!" bull$h!t, what is the use of someone who is a f***ING serial killer. Yeah lets just send them to a building where they don't have to do a damned thing, just sit in a cell, eat, go outside, get into gang fights and kill more people through gang communication within prisons. Yay, sounds like a f***ing blast. And in saying all that I am not saying all convicted murders should get the death penalty. But I think you all know by using a thing called common sense, that there are numerous cases where an individual deserved the death penalty. Mate, with all the problems you have in the US with the Death Penalty (especially in Southern States where a disproportionate amount of black murderers are sentenced to death over white murderers - FACT!!!!) I'm pretty damn shocked that you are in any way advocating for the Death Penalty.... Sorry man, but the state has no more right to kill someone than you or I do, and if that does mean that people who may be unworthy are getting 3 square meals a day and a roof over their heads, well, surely that says that we are more civilised than they might be... And the facts are, that in the case of gangs in particular, the US made a rod for its own back there by marginalising and ignoring the communities where gang activity is its highest for years.. Do kids in the Black and Hispanic Projects get the same sort of access to good education as the kids in the white suburbs, do they get the same chances in life..? Do they fukk, they're lucky if they have more than one textbook for a whole sodding class..... The facts are, your racist, redneck, and in many cases, Uncle Tom politicians created the spiralling problem of gang culture in the first fukkin' place by basically offering these people no hope or real alternatives (and dont give me this guff about the US being a "land of opportunity" or "freedom for all", we both know that this is simply not the case for the vast majority of Americans...), save your anger for them, and not for people living in a total sh!thole not of their own making.... As for your question "what is the use of a...serial killer?".. Well, I'll tell ya... A live serial killer is probably pretty damn useful to FBI psychological profilers.....
March 6, 200817 yr No. Never. Two wrongs don't make a right. I think some people think if the death penalty is introduced, the level of violence will drop to what it was back in the 50s/60s. IMHO that's nonsense. The disintegration of society has gone too far.
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