You are living up to your name again mate

 

She is not fit to bring up a kid, her entire family wouldn't know the meaning of the word work even if it was burned onto their foreheads, the mum lets multiple teenage boys come over to their house and shag her daughter so in general this is not an environment for this baby to be bought up in, if this baby hasn't got multiple ASBO's by its 13th birthday it will be the shock of the century

 

The kid needs taking away from that chav environment and put in with a family that is going to bring it up in a stable environment and don't get me started on the family of the 13 year old boy

 

 

The criteria for taking a child away is if it is "at risk" Please tell me how you KNOW that baby is at risk. You don't. Simple as that. A 15 year-old girl's perfectly capable of bringing a baby up. Thousands are doing it right now.

 

"She is not fit to bring up a kid," Who says, you? If her mum has 10 lads a night that doesn't mean she can't look after a new baby. :unsure: Good job you're not a social worker. All single parents' kids would be in care!!!

Edited February 15, 200916 yr by Crazy Chris

Again, ridiculous post, to suggest that people should have a licence to have kids. I'm 49 and have only worked two years in my entire life. Should I have not been allowed to have my daughter? It's every person's human right to bear a child if he or she so wishes. Some opinions on here really make me PMSL. Also to call a 15 year-old girl who made a mistake and got pregnant a "creature" is frankly disgusting and very immature. :angry: As I said in answer to Grimley, why does the child need taking in to care? Is it in any danger or at risk? No-one knows but I doubt it. Let them be.

 

I am not talking about 15 year old girls in general having babies I am talking about brain dead chavs having kids and expecting the state (me, Scott, Rob, Rich etc etc) to pick up the tab

 

One of the members of this forum had her first kid at 15 and does an amazing job bringing the kid up and doesn't ponce a penny in benefits off the state, in cases like hers fair play to her wish everyone having a kid at that age was like that but 99% of them are having a jolly courtesy of the taxpayer and I don't consider that acceptable

Edited February 15, 200916 yr by B.A Baracus

I am not talking about 15 year old girls in general having babies I am talking about brain dead chavs having kids and expecting the state (me, Scott, Rob, Rich etc etc) to pick up the tab

 

One of the members of this forum had her first kid at 15 and does an amazing job bringing the kid up and doesn't ponce a penny in benefits off the state, in cases like hers fair play to her wish everyone having a kid at that age was like that but 99% of them are having a jolly courtesy of the taxpayer and I don't consider that acceptable

 

 

They're not living in wealth though. I know a girl age 16 who has a baby and lives on benefits and she can't afford to go out with her friends even if her parents look after the baby. In my opinion they should get a lot more every week. They get enough to live on and all their rent paid but not enough for other things like working people have. I mean to buy CD's, nice clothes, drinks on a night out. It's not their fault they cvan't work for having a young baby to look after.

Edited February 15, 200916 yr by Crazy Chris

The criteria for taking a child away is if it is "at risk" Please tell me how you KNOW that baby is at risk. You don't. Simple as that. A 15 year-old girl's perfectly capable of bringing a baby up. Thousands are doing it right now.

 

"She is not fit to bring up a kid," Who says, you? If her mum has 10 lads a night that doesn't mean she can't look after a new baby. :unsure: Good job you're not a social worker. All single parents' kids would be in care!!!

 

I think its moral and psychological welfare is as important than its physical wellbeing, same goes for any other child

 

I do not believe that the kid is going to be bought up well and have good morals indented into it because the families of both parents are very unsavoury people so regard has to be made for its moral wellbeing as well as its physical wellbeing, is it at physical risk ? probably not, is it at risk of becoming another ASBO kid and feral chav ? absolutely

They're not living in wealth though. I know a girl age 16 who has a baby and lives on benefits and she can't afford to go out with her friends even if her parents look after the baby. In my opinion they should get a lot more every week. They get enough to live on and all their rent paid but not enough for other things like working people have.

 

Not my problem, I dont want to foot the bill for chavs who drop their knickers

 

She should have thought about that before she had the kid, it it not my responsibility to fund her or it and as a taxpayer I am

Alfie's agreed to have a DNA test paid for by The Sun. Chantelle denies that she slept with anyone else despite claims by up to 8 other boys.

Not my problem, I dont want to foot the bill for chavs who drop their knickers

 

 

yo look, I got a vacant sign written on my knickers :cheer:

They're not living in wealth though. I know a girl age 16 who has a baby and lives on benefits and she can't afford to go out with her friends even if her parents look after the baby. In my opinion they should get a lot more every week. They get enough to live on and all their rent paid but not enough for other things like working people have. I mean to buy CD's, nice clothes, drinks on a night out. It's not their fault they cvan't work for having a young baby to look after.

 

I'm sorry. I've only been lurking in this thread rather than writing my opinion incase of coming across a tad brash....but this is by far the most ridiculous thing I've read. Period.

 

Not being funny or anything, but I can't really get work with all my Uni studies, and don't really have enough money to go out or get nice things myself. Fancy paying for my social life for me?

They're not living in wealth though. I know a girl age 16 who has a baby and lives on benefits and she can't afford to go out with her friends even if her parents look after the baby. In my opinion they should get a lot more every week. They get enough to live on and all their rent paid but not enough for other things like working people have. I mean to buy CD's, nice clothes, drinks on a night out. It's not their fault they cvan't work for having a young baby to look after.

 

This has to be contender for "Most braindead Post of All Time" in the Perspectives Forum..... Seriously, just where the hell DO you come up with this utter pish mate.....? Frankly, I wonder if you really are this ridiculously dense, or if you're just winding me and Craig up..... And you're 49!!!!!!! Jesus fukkin' WEPT, I find that incredibly hard to believe... There's ten times more sense coming out of posts by the likes of Chemical Halo, and she's a TEENAGER....... Wake up, smell the coffee...... Not meaning to be nasty but for your own sake... get an education, get a job, and get some bloody self respect mate.... Christ, I seriously feel sorry for your kids with you as a parental role model......

 

I think it's blindingly fukkin' obvious that this horrendous bint is another fukkin' Sharon Matthews waiting to happen... Christ, she's been putting it about like it's going out of fashion... EIGHT different partners and she's only FIFTEEN!!!!!!!! And, this is probably only the ones we actually know about, god knows how many others there were in the time before she got pregnant.....

 

The whole family are a bunch of fukkin' scum with no sense of morals or responsibility.... Damn right they're unfit, I wouldn't even let these c/unts look after a dog..... <_<

 

Not being funny or anything, but I can't really get work with all my Uni studies, and don't really have enough money to go out or get nice things myself. Fancy paying for my social life for me?

 

Excellent riposte.....

 

Frankly, as a taxpayer, I'd rather pay for your Uni tuition than pay for fukkin' lowlifes to drop brats they're incapable of looking after and will only turn out bloody feral in about 12 years.....

 

This has to be contender for "Most braindead Post of All Time" in the Perspectives Forum..... Seriously, just where the hell DO you come up with this utter pish mate.....? Frankly, I wonder if you really are this ridiculously dense, or if you're just winding me and Craig up..... And you're 49!!!!!!! Jesus fukkin' WEPT, I find that incredibly hard to believe... There's ten times more sense coming out of posts by the likes of Chemical Halo, and she's a TEENAGER....... Wake up, smell the coffee...... Not meaning to be nasty but for your own sake... get an education, get a job, and get some bloody self respect mate.... Christ, I seriously feel sorry for your kids with you as a parental role model......

 

I think it's blindingly fukkin' obvious that this horrendous bint is another fukkin' Sharon Matthews waiting to happen... Christ, she's been putting it about like it's going out of fashion... EIGHT different partners and she's only FIFTEEN!!!!!!!! And, this is probably only the ones we actually know about, god knows how many others there were in the time before she got pregnant.....

 

The whole family are a bunch of fukkin' scum with no sense of morals or responsibility.... Damn right they're unfit, I wouldn't even let these c/unts look after a dog..... <_<

 

 

So anyone who has a different opinion to you and Craig is called "dense" and "brain-dead" Grimley. Don't worry I won't bother giving my opinions here again as yours seem to be the only ones that count. I am intelligent, got 8 o-levels, all grade A then did A-levels, business studies, City and Guilds. A long time ago I admit. No I'm not winding anyone up. Think at 49 it's too late for me to "get an education and a job" No-one employs anyone my age any more. Anyway I can't as I suffer from long-term depression. Suppose you're against paying tax for my Incapacity Benefit too. :wacko:

I agree she's a slag for having so many sexual partners but that still doesn't make her incapable of looking after a baby and a reason for it to be taken in to care.

Edited February 16, 200916 yr by Crazy Chris

This 'story' has made the Australian headlines :mellow:

I would understand her being able to have so many lads on the go if she was like pretty or whatever but she is an obese lump of lard with the face of a pig if I was a teenage lad I sure wouldn't boast of a relationship with a gargoyle like that especally infront of a national newspaper

 

:lol: gotta be the funniest (but true) things youve ever posed craig! :)

 

I wonder if Chantelle got her own house and Alfie moved in, would she be able to claim child benefit for the kid and the dad? <_<

 

:lol: that too is hilarious!

 

Better sex education for a start. The countries with the lowest teenage pregnancy rates (e.g. Netherlands, Scandinavian countries) discuss sex much more openly.

 

There have been stories of teenagers being given "dummy" babies to look after for a weekend to give them some idea of just how difficult it is. This seems to have had some success so why isn't it happening more?

 

My main objection to your arguments (even if I ignore the ones which are so ridiculous they make Richard Littlejohn look like a liberal) is that hey potentially punish the children. Nobody gets to choose their parents and no child should bve punished by the state because of the inadequacies of their parents.

 

im sure theres not 1 child @ 12 years of age (by puberty) that DOESNT know where babies come from.... sex ed is far more advanced now then when i was at school and we didnt have underage/unprotected sex.... its MORALS that are lacking, plus the benefit system option if they 'get caught' <_<

 

it could be argued that it would be a greater punishment leaving the brat in a chav home then removing it.

 

 

Again, ridiculous post, to suggest that people should have a licence to have kids. I'm 49 and have only worked two years in my entire life. Should I have not been allowed to have my daughter? It's every person's human right to bear a child if he or she so wishes. Some opinions on here really make me PMSL. Also to call a 15 year-old girl who made a mistake and got pregnant a "creature" is frankly disgusting and very immature. :angry: As I said in answer to Grimley, why does the child need taking in to care? Is it in any danger or at risk? No-one knows but I doubt it. Let them be.

 

why have you only worked for 2 years?.... ill health? fair enough... choice? then why tf should I work to keep you in benefits?

 

 

I am not talking about 15 year old girls in general having babies I am talking about brain dead chavs having kids and expecting the state (me, Scott, Rob, Rich etc etc) to pick up the tab

 

exactly

 

 

They're not living in wealth though. I know a girl age 16 who has a baby and lives on benefits and she can't afford to go out with her friends even if her parents look after the baby. In my opinion they should get a lot more every week. They get enough to live on and all their rent paid but not enough for other things like working people have. I mean to buy CD's, nice clothes, drinks on a night out. It's not their fault they cvan't work for having a young baby to look after.

 

and wheres the money coming from?... the magic money fairey?... no you pratt! ME!

 

So anyone who has a different opinion to you and Craig is called "dense" and "brain-dead" Grimley. Don't worry I won't bother giving my opinions here again as yours seem to be the only ones that count. I am intelligent, got 8 o-levels, all grade A then did A-levels, business studies, City and Guilds. A long time ago I admit. No I'm not winding anyone up. Think at 49 it's too late for me to "get an education and a job" No-one employs anyone my age any more. Anyway I can't as I suffer from long-term depression. Suppose you're against paying tax for my Incapacity Benefit too. :wacko:

I agree she's a slag for having so many sexual partners but that still doesn't make her incapable of looking after a baby and a reason for it to be taken in to care.

 

i dont 'get' you.... worked 2 years and now claim your unemployable because of your age?.. whats happened to the other 30 odd years then?

 

cant get a job? WORK FOR YOURSELF! ... you are better qualified to do that more then me and i manage it!

 

I really think in cases like this, where it's obvious a child just isn't going to have a decent upbringing, a doctor should be within his/her rights to officially recommend an abortion (though obviously, people shouldn't be forced to have one). Some of the suggestions being made like "breeding licenses" are a bit ridiculous though lol.

 

I don't want to see criminal charges pressed on this girl though... being tougher on "statutory rape" could lead to ridiculous situations where 16-year-old guys are getting jailed for sleeping with a long-term 15-year-old girlfriend.

The kid who's alledged to have fathered this baby, doesn't look capable of getting his own breakfast, are they 100% certain it's him? Only there seems to be a multitude of other "possibles" coming out of the woodwork now.

He looks like me in pictures back when I was eight and took photos with my newborn brother.

im sure theres not 1 child @ 12 years of age (by puberty) that DOESNT know where babies come from.... sex ed is far more advanced now then when i was at school and we didnt have underage/unprotected sex.... its MORALS that are lacking, plus the benefit system option if they 'get caught' <_>

I'm not just talking about the mechanics of sex. The emotional side should be taught as well. It should also cover contraception and alternatives to sex. My sex education didn't even include the subject of masturbation.

To be fair, schools DO really put an effort into sex education generally these days... but most kids, especially guys, are never going to take it seriously. I'm not really sure there's much more schools can do tbh.

Finally we have proof that PR Guru Max Clifford is in league with the devil:

 

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/02/16/article-1146072-0386BA63000005DC-222_468x573.jpg

and wheres the money coming from?... the magic money fairey?... no you pratt! ME!

 

He's not a prat. He has an opinion, as do the rest of us. I'm not taking sides here, purely because this discussion has turned into a f***ing toddler's slap fight, but I don't see Chris going around throwing the insults at any of you. Your posts are degrading your own intelligence. As are some other people in here who can't handle opinions.

 

I'm not just talking about the mechanics of sex. The emotional side should be taught as well. It should also cover contraception and alternatives to sex. My sex education didn't even include the subject of masturbation.

 

That's a very good point. But the main reason for this not being thought, and this is my opinion, is because of the parents. If children were taught about masturbation, oral sex and other sexual topics, you would have parents complaining saying "it's not the teacher's job to teach my child about sex!" yet they won't do it themselves. Most parents have the mentality that sex topics are explicit to children's ears, but they couldn't be more wrong. We had sex ed when we were 11, and we covered just about everything, and some of the parents didn't allow for the kids to attend the class.

 

Kids need to be educated about sex, puberty and everything else because it's natural, and they'll most likely be grateful for being educated about it.