:o Where's this new Google forum? I want to join!!

http://www.googlecommunity.com/

http://www.googlecommunity.com/forum/

It's not official though so I'm not sure. :D

but puts it across like a child...

 

Which is my whole problem with him, (and Crazy Chris as well).... I mean, yeah, great, we know vaguely what he's against, but what does he actually stand for.......? I dont really even know what his opinions actually are, because he's not expressing them, nor is he actually disagreeing with mine in a particularly adult or mature manner.. So, frankly, I see no point in trying to reasonably debate with him while he continues to post braindead spam which contributes nothing to the debate.....

 

 

Which surely proves my point... The SNP have certainly always had this policy of independence, BUT, the point I'm making is, that the Scottish people, the majority anyway, weren't as prone to going along with the SNP and independence before all of Labour's cock ups, Labour messed up, simple as.... The point is, that people feel that they've been sold out by Labour, and it's the nationalists that are benefiting... The SNP are a fairly broad-minded lot, despite their flaws and shortcomings; the BNP are a bunch of fukkin' neo-Nazi thugs who think rebranding themselves from Combat 18 or the NF somehow makes them more acceptable....

The SNP and BNP are horrifically different one's full of racist c**ts who should all be burnt alive after suffering 6 different advance forms of terminal cancer at once and the other is full of hot air and morons.

 

i hope we get rid of the SNP but i doubt we will. They have kept roughly 2 election promises so far.

 

1) Scraping the graduate endowment - which has saved me £3k

 

and

 

2) Scraping the tolls on the Forth and Tay bridges - which to be fair anyone who actually wanted to be elected in Fife/Dundee/Edinburgh was campaigning for. Even the bloody Tory in my area was.

 

Lib Dems have had very little benefit from labour's small downfall. BUT seem to have a growing support in some areas. Big Ming C has been my MP for as long as i can remember. Ian Smith is the only person to have held the NE Fife MSP seat. So we are a big Lib Dem strong hold even tho they just keep the torries at bay.

 

The torries have real support in Scotland, there just aren't enough upper class toffs to vote them in. All the land owners and Farmers in NE Fife vot Tory, everyone else votes Lib Dem because Labour are $h!t and they hate the torys.

 

 

In fact, since the scum have switched from Labour to SNP, Fife has gone down hill. A lot of things have changed and budgets have been horrifically cut. St Andrews needs resurfacing, Cupar needs a By-Pass. It's town centre has one of Europe's worst pollution levels during the school run. Traffic literally stands still for a mile in each direction.

 

So from my experience the SNP are one of the worst things to have happened to Scotland.

 

 

 

i really hope that the referendum will have a NO vote so we can get rid of the f***ers for another 10 or so years. But knowing that sneaky c**t he'll word it cleverly so we gets his own way.

In fact, since the scum have switched from Labour to SNP, Fife has gone down hill. A lot of things have changed and budgets have been horrifically cut. St Andrews needs resurfacing, Cupar needs a By-Pass. It's town centre has one of Europe's worst pollution levels during the school run. Traffic literally stands still for a mile in each direction.

 

So from my experience the SNP are one of the worst things to have happened to Scotland.

 

i really hope that the referendum will have a NO vote so we can get rid of the f***ers for another 10 or so years. But knowing that sneaky c**t he'll word it cleverly so we gets his own way.

 

Hmmm, was Fife, by any chance, investing heavily in Icelandic banks......? :rolleyes:

 

Yeah, I mean, putting your faith in a bunch of fatuous clowns like the SNP is really not the thing to do, but I can understand why it happened.... What really got my goat was the fact that the SNP put in their manifesto that they would re-regulate the buses, then Brian "homophbic arsehole" Soutar comes along, gives them 500k for their election campaign, and all of a sudden, re-regulation is off the menu..... As a mate of mine said, "bought and sold for Soutar gold...." :rolleyes: They pathetically play this whole romanticized "nation" card and try to make out that they're the second bloody coming of Robert the Bruce, and people all of a sudden seem to forget their serious shortcomings, which are in reality just as legion as Scottish Labour, and let's face it, no bugger whose not some "laird" is ever gonna vote Tory....

 

Cant argue that the SNP have played it very cleverly though, and Scottish Labour actually helped them out with their own endless catalogue of errors, it's really down to bloody Nu Labor that the SNP got in in Scotland.... As much as I enjoyed seeing Nu Labor get a bloody nose in the bi-elections, the 'cure' seems as bad as the disease in the end...

 

Which is why we need a good, committed, TRUE Left-of-centre or mainstream Socialist party in the UK.... Perhaps something like what the Swedes, Norwegians or Spanish have....

 

Hmmm, was Fife, by any chance, investing heavily in Icelandic banks......? :rolleyes:

 

Yeah, I mean, putting your faith in a bunch of fatuous clowns like the SNP is really not the thing to do, but I can understand why it happened.... What really got my goat was the fact that the SNP put in their manifesto that they would re-regulate the buses, then Brian "homophbic arsehole" Soutar comes along, gives them 500k for their election campaign, and all of a sudden, re-regulation is off the menu..... As a mate of mine said, "bought and sold for Soutar gold...." :rolleyes: They pathetically play this whole romanticized "nation" card and try to make out that they're the second bloody coming of Robert the Bruce, and people all of a sudden seem to forget their serious shortcomings, which are in reality just as legion as Scottish Labour, and let's face it, no bugger whose not some "laird" is ever gonna vote Tory....

 

Cant argue that the SNP have played it very cleverly though, and Scottish Labour actually helped them out with their own endless catalogue of errors, it's really down to bloody Nu Labor that the SNP got in in Scotland.... As much as I enjoyed seeing Nu Labor get a bloody nose in the bi-elections, the 'cure' seems as bad as the disease in the end...

 

Which is why we need a good, committed, TRUE Left-of-centre or mainstream Socialist party in the UK.... Perhaps something like what the Swedes, Norwegians or Spanish have....

No actually, Fife didn't loose very much if anything at all in the iceland crash.

 

They really are full of hot air, i totally agree.

 

they are hypocritical, but we are stuck with them as the ned scum seem to be attracted by the word independence without actually knowing what it entails.

 

What we need is the Lib Dems in power tbh.

I just think it's a real shame the Lib Dems have gone so ridiculous in the last few years - if they still had Charles Kennedy in charge, with the same kind of left-leaning policy he had, then I honestly think they'd be genuine contenders at the next election, compared to the jokers at the top of the Conservative and Labour Parties atm.

I just think it's a real shame the Lib Dems have gone so ridiculous in the last few years - if they still had Charles Kennedy in charge, with the same kind of left-leaning policy he had, then I honestly think they'd be genuine contenders at the next election, compared to the jokers at the top of the Conservative and Labour Parties atm.

 

The biggest mistake that the Liberals ever made was doing the dirty on Charles Kennedy in my book.... That guy had gotten them more seats and votes than any other leader ever had done, and they just backstabbed him..... And why, exactly, just cos of a bit of a drinking problem...? Stone the bloody crows, Churchill would've had NO chance then...... :lol: :lol:

I just think it's a real shame the Lib Dems have gone so ridiculous in the last few years - if they still had Charles Kennedy in charge, with the same kind of left-leaning policy he had, then I honestly think they'd be genuine contenders at the next election, compared to the jokers at the top of the Conservative and Labour Parties atm.

 

 

It's laughable that anyone can call our current Opposition Leader and Prime Minister next year a joker. He's great, far better than that buffoon Brown. He's a caring family man. Huge majority for Cameron next May. :cheer: The Lib-Dems are the joke party. They never have been and never will be "serious contenders" no matter who their leader is. :wacko:

 

Also does anyone outside of Scotland really care who's in charge there? Doubt it. I certainly don't. Most English people probably don't give it a second though.

Edited March 1, 200916 yr by Crazy Chris

Also does anyone outside of Scotland really care who's in charge there? Doubt it. I certainly don't. Most English people probably don't give it a second though.

Oh are Grimly and i boring you with our discussion on the Scottish Nationalists?

 

What has happened in Scotland is actually important considering at the next election they are likely to gain quite a few of Labours Scottish seats therefore directly affecting the UK as a whole.

 

Just because you are too ignorant to care about the political shifts happening in Scotland doesn't mean others don't care about it.

 

And for the record. I'm English by nationality. :)

 

and i give it more than a second thought.

 

 

*edit*

 

and as for your downright stupid comment on the Lid Dems, they have good policies and have had control over my area for as long as i have been alive. We've done perfectly fine. In fact the Lib Dem/Labour council was doing fine until the SNP got in.

Edited March 1, 200916 yr by The Fear

Yes but the Lib-Dems have absolutely no chance of forming a Government. They may do well in some places. So to call Brown and Cameron "jokers" when one is PM and the other will be soon is laughable. I'd say the Lib-Dem leader is a bigger joker.

Edited March 1, 200916 yr by Crazy Chris

It's laughable that anyone can call our current Opposition Leader and Prime Minister next year a joker. He's great, far better than that buffoon Brown. He's a caring family man. Huge majority for Cameron next May. :cheer: The Lib-Dems are the joke party. They never have been and never will be "serious contenders" no matter who their leader is. :wacko:

 

Also does anyone outside of Scotland really care who's in charge there? Doubt it. I certainly don't. Most English people probably don't give it a second though.

What the f*** has Cameron being a caring family man got to do with being a good Prime Minister or Leader of the Opposition? :mellow: And yes, if Scotland get a leader who pushes for independence, there goes tax cuts for southerners from the North Sea oil, so yes, there probably are a few people who care - just because you're too narrow minded to care about anything that doesn't affect you doesn't mean others are!

 

Yes but the Lib-Dems have absolutely no chance of forming a Government. They may do well in some places. So to call Brown and Cameron "jokers" when one is PM and the other will be soon is laughable. I'd say the Lib-Dem leader is a bigger joker.

Have you even HEARD of the possibility of a hung parliament? In the event of a hung parliament (where neither the Labour or the Tories hold enough seats to form a majority government - a fairly realistic possibility) both parties would seek to woo the Lib Dems and FORM A GOVERNMENT WITH THEM. Hence why Labour sent representatives last year to negotiate policies with the Lib Dems to see if there was a possibility of forming a government with them in the event of a hung parliament this/next year!

Of course I know about a hung parliament. There's no chance of one at the next election though however much people may want one. Cameron will win by at least a 150 seat majority. I'd bet my life on it. I'll PM you on election night when it's happened!

Edited March 1, 200916 yr by Crazy Chris

I'd write a will mate if i were you ;)

 

There is no way the torries will get a 150 seat majority. For one they have a seat in Scotland, and Scotland will be LibDem/SNP at the next election.

 

Labour are hated and we still remember Thatcher :)

Haven't you seen the recent opinion polls here in England? Cameron could get a 200 seat majority even! I think it'll be a similar landslide to 1997 tbh.

:rofl:

 

where do you get this stuff.

 

There are over a 100 seats outside of England and the torries can wave goodbye to pretty much all of them leaving them with 529 english seats.

 

There is no way the torries will win enough seats to get a 150 majority never mind 200.

 

You have quite obviously forgotten the safe labour/lib dem seats oh and the racist c**ts like yourself who vote BNP. now there's a virus that is making serious gains in england

A scrounger like Crazy Chris cheering the prospect of a Tory victory is like a turkey cheering for christmas

 

Cameron has promised to make scroungers work for their benefits and disability benefit is only going to be available for the physically disabled so finally looks like Crazy Chris will have to get away from daytime tv and do something useful :cheer: :cheer:

 

The sight of Crazy Chris picking up litter in the street should be enough for everyone here to vote Tory ;)

What the f*** has Cameron being a caring family man got to do with being a good Prime Minister or Leader of the Opposition? :mellow: And yes, if Scotland get a leader who pushes for independence, there goes tax cuts for southerners from the North Sea oil, so yes, there probably are a few people who care - just because you're too narrow minded to care about anything that doesn't affect you doesn't mean others are!

 

Spot on Tyron.... Surely it's perfectly natural to discuss the matter of "nationalism" generally in a thread about the BNP as a comparison to other nationalist parties, such as SNP, Sinn Fein and Plaid Cymru, the BNP are by far the worst out of that lot (yes, a LOT worse than Sinn Fein, as there were clearly defined reasons for what happened during the "troubles" in NI, not the least one being the matter of Bloody Sunday and basically the Irish Civil Rights movement being brutally put down by the British establishment and armed forces, the Irish tried peace and were met with the brutality of the British state, you cant blame an oppressed people for merely reacting to violence which was itself nothing more than state terrorism).... Basically, we ARE four nations kind of glued together, well, of course Ireland is a partitioned nation (a bit like India/Pakistan which was also carved up according to religious dogmas), and look how that bloody well turned out.... Nice one Lloyd George, you utter PRAT!!!!!! <_< <_<

 

Chris, you really are totally ignorant of the facts aren't you...? Cameron is a laughable posh-boy prat (he's just "Blair-lite" in so many ways...) who will fukk up the country to an even greater scale than Broon and Darling... And Craig is utterly spot on as well, if the Tories get in, the like of you and the scummy, layabout chavs who drop litters of brats will be the first in his and Osbourne's line of fire..... Still, that would be the one good thing that a Tory govt would take care of...

Of course I know about a hung parliament. There's no chance of one at the next election though however much people may want one. Cameron will win by at least a 150 seat majority. I'd bet my life on it. I'll PM you on election night when it's happened!

A 150-seat majority? :rofl: Christ, Cameron is NOWHERE near as popular and Brown is NOWHERE near as unpopular as Blair/Major were respectively prior to the '97 election. And let us not forget that there are far too many safe Labour seats (for a start, inner cities...) to allow a Conservative majority of that magnitude. While I do think Cameron will probably win the next election, he would need a swing of about 25% to get a win of that nature. Cameron makes far too many people uneasy, is far too much of a 'lesser of two evils' choice in the eyes of most that I severely doubt he could do that well unless Brown took us into another war or something else of that nature.

 

And why exactly do you support the Conservatives? :P

Crazy Chris is actually right that opinion polls are currently indicating a Tory landslide - they're generally leading by about 15 points atm, which translated to an election WOULD mean around a 150-seat majority... I don't think it'll be quite on that scale when it actually comes down to it, but a Labour victory is certainly looking ridiculously unlikely at this point considering there's pretty much no way the recession will be over by next spring. That doesn't mean I can't still both Cameron and Brown jokers though...

It's a wonder Chris supports the Tories, as they'd be the first party to get him off his ARSE and doing some bloody work.