Oh chill mate. :wacko: No-one forced you to be a student did they? Will you accept a cheque? :dance: Anyway I thought you got a grant or loan or something for Uni. Don't know much about it.

:manson:

 

oh i am sorry for wanting to be something other than a sponger for the rest of my life.

 

My grant is a grand total of £90 for the year, and i don't have a loan. Not that it would make any difference anyway, it wouldn't cover cost of living.

 

 

and check will do, but in AUD i ain't getting charged by the Aussie banks for converting it.

Oh chill mate. :wacko: No-one forced you to be a student did they? Will you accept a cheque? :dance: Anyway I thought you got a grant or loan or something for Uni. Don't know much about it.

 

No, you really DONT know much about it mate, you said it.... Students have to tolerate FAR worse sh!t than you bloody dole scroungers or chav scum do.... Some fukkin' chav bint gets knocked up, gets a free house, free money AT MY FUKKIN EXPENSE.... People such as yourself with "depression" get a free ride also.... I'd much rather pay for The Fear's or Chemical Halo's education, BECAUSE THEY'RE ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISHING SOMETHING, than foot the bill for the likes of you or those fukkin' chav bints who litter the streets with feral brats who go around terrorising decent folk.....

No, you really DONT know much about it mate, you said it.... Students have to tolerate FAR worse sh!t than you bloody dole scroungers or chav scum do.... Some fukkin' chav bint gets knocked up, gets a free house, free money AT MY FUKKIN EXPENSE.... People such as yourself with "depression" get a free ride also.... I'd much rather pay for The Fear's or Chemical Halo's education, BECAUSE THEY'RE ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISHING SOMETHING, than foot the bill for the likes of you or those fukkin' chav bints who litter the streets with feral brats who go around terrorising decent folk.....

 

 

Don't students get up at lunch-time and spend half their money in the pub or is that just a false rumour then? :P My sister went to Uni in the early 80's and even admits it's true for a lot of them. :o I can't afford to go to the pub, just have some cans at home.

Edited March 4, 200916 yr by Crazy Chris

No, you really DONT know much about it mate, you said it.... Students have to tolerate FAR worse sh!t than you bloody dole scroungers or chav scum do.... Some fukkin' chav bint gets knocked up, gets a free house, free money AT MY FUKKIN EXPENSE.... People such as yourself with "depression" get a free ride also.... I'd much rather pay for The Fear's or Chemical Halo's education, BECAUSE THEY'RE ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISHING SOMETHING, than foot the bill for the likes of you or those fukkin' chav bints who litter the streets with feral brats who go around terrorising decent folk.....

 

 

That's a sweeping generalisation about single parents Grimley. I know a single mother, 30 now, with two daughters aged 13 and 11. Different dads and not with either now. Her eldest was in my daughter's nursery class. She's never worked a day in her life but her daughters are the nicest, kindest, most polite girls you can meet and very good academically. They don't stand on street corners, swear, shoplift or terrorise old ladies. I know that for a fact. So they're not all "feral brats" as you rudely call them. Do you begrudge her money and free rent when she's bringing them up excellently with good values?

Edited March 4, 200916 yr by Crazy Chris

No, you really DONT know much about it mate, you said it.... Students have to tolerate FAR worse sh!t than you bloody dole scroungers or chav scum do.... Some fukkin' chav bint gets knocked up, gets a free house, free money AT MY FUKKIN EXPENSE.... People such as yourself with "depression" get a free ride also.... I'd much rather pay for The Fear's or Chemical Halo's education, BECAUSE THEY'RE ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISHING SOMETHING, than foot the bill for the likes of you or those fukkin' chav bints who litter the streets with feral brats who go around terrorising decent folk.....

Exactly.

 

Aren't you also continuing your education?

 

Don't students get up at lunch-time and spend half their money in the pub or is that just a false rumour then? :P My sister went to Uni in the early 80's and even admits it's true for a lot of them. :o I can't afford to go to the pub, just have some cans at home.

Bollocks.

 

I can't even afford that.

 

Not that i would drink that vile stuff. Vodka ain't cheap across here.

 

I haven't been on a night out since the start of Feb, and i was sober that night so i could afford the cover charge and the train home the next day

That's a sweeping generalisation about single parents Grimley.

 

Speaking of sweeping generalisations...

 

Don't students get up at lunch-time and spend half their money in the pub

 

:rolleyes:

 

 

 

Don't students get up at lunch-time and spend half their money in the pub or is that just a false rumour then? :P My sister went to Uni in the early 80's and even admits it's true for a lot of them. :o I can't afford to go to the pub, just have some cans at home.

That was in the early 80's though. The university system in this country, financially, is one of the most ridiculous systems i know about :blink:. The UK seem so.... anti-professional?

I never watch any daytime TV after Jeremy Kyle. No way can they make severely depressed people work. What if it pushes one over the edge and they commit suicide? I'll fight them in the Courts then European Courts if they try to make me go to work when I am unable to. It's inhumane. :angry: My present therapist agrees that I'm very unlikely to ever work again.

Quite possibly the biggest amount of bull$h!t I've ever read on this board. You are talking absolute bum breeze. You clearly aren't 'severely depressed'. I know this because having been in therapy/counseling for a good few years, I know for a fact that that would never be said to you.

 

There is no way on GODS EARTH that a therapist would ever say 'you are unlikely to ever work again'. The whole point of undergoing therapy is to help you. A therapist spouting $h!te like that is only gonna make your situation worse. Makes you feel even more in a rut than you already do.

 

I had a similar experience so maybe I'm being a bit too harsh. But seriously if your therapist said that to you change it immediately. Clearly not professional and have no idea what their doing. Therapy/counseling is all about trying to get your life back on track. So I really doubt they would have a pessimistic attitude like you claim.

Edited March 6, 200916 yr by Ryan

That was in the early 80's though. The university system in this country, financially, is one of the most ridiculous systems i know about :blink:. The UK seem so.... anti-professional?

 

 

I'm a firm supporter of student loans with them having to pay it back gradually when they start working. They earn a lot more with a degree after all. The grant scheme was unfair. Why should the State fund people who decide to go to Uni, from taxpayers who leave school and start work at 16 or 18? I have had many argumants with my sister over this as she was one of the grant students in the 80's. :angry:

Edited March 6, 200916 yr by Crazy Chris

Why should the state fund you to sit on your arse?

 

You're such a f***ing hypocrite it is unreal. At least when the state funds uni students they get a decent return in tax after they graduate.

 

I get £90 a year from the government, a year. thats less than u get a week and i have to work my arse off for a damn degree. My money is now being reassessed because i'm spending a semester abroad, the way that letter was worded suggests i could lose the rest of my cash.

 

 

Don't even bother trying to defend yourself, there are people out there who have worse personal circumstances than you yet can still get of their arse every day and do something for the benefit of society. Given that you are online at 7.15am i don't see how you can't go out and get a job. Working in a supermarket isn't rocket science ffs.

I am up at 6.45 every weekday to get my daughter up, do her packed lunch and get her off to school. Hate rising so early but have no choice as a dad. :)

Edited March 6, 200916 yr by Crazy Chris

I'm sad that this thread started as being about the BNP and is now an Anti-Crazy Chris thread. :(

Edited March 6, 200916 yr by Crazy Chris

I'm a firm supporter of student loans with them having to pay it back gradually when they start working. They earn a lot more with a degree after all. The grant scheme was unfair. Why should the State fund people who decide to go to Uni, from taxpayers who leave school and start work at 16 or 18? I have had many argumants with my sister over this as she was one of the grant students in the 80's. :angry:

 

i see 'the fear' has already replied to this ....

 

 

I'm sad that this thread started as being about the BNP and is now an Anti-Crazy Chris thread. :(

 

you object to the state helping fund education for people to better themselves yet also reckon that the state should pay MORE of MY money in benefits to scum who dont work?

 

AND YOU WONDER WHY YOU GET SO MUCH STICK ON HERE?

 

you are a complete contradiction,. i dont believe you, i dont believe a therapist has written you off, i dont believe you are depressed, you dont talk like a depressed person and i know, my m8 is manic depressive, he wont go near a pc whilst hes like this let alone trawl the internet everyday looking for arguments .... surely thats the WORST thing a depressive can do!

Why would I lie though? I am claiming Incapacity Benefit for depression/nerves. Have been since 1988. Why would I invent that?

Edited March 6, 200916 yr by Crazy Chris

he wont go near a pc whilst hes like this let alone trawl the internet everyday looking for arguments .... surely thats the WORST thing a depressive can do!

 

Funny, I was thinking the exact same thing.....

 

Also, the fact that people with clinical depression, self-harmers, etc, tend to be incredibly secretive about it, they would tell close friends or family about how they were feeling, but not total strangers on the internet...

 

I know two people who are basically "shut ins", one's agoraphobic and the other is suffering from severe depression, but that doesn't actually prevent them from doing stuff to make a living, one designs and makes her own jewellry and sells it on the net, the other writes code for online gaming, software, etc, they do this sort of work from home, so, yes, it IS possible for people with pretty debilitating mental disorders to actually be functional and productive in some way...

 

 

 

I'm a firm supporter of student loans with them having to pay it back gradually when they start working. They earn a lot more with a degree after all. The grant scheme was unfair. Why should the State fund people who decide to go to Uni, from taxpayers who leave school and start work at 16 or 18? I have had many argumants with my sister over this as she was one of the grant students in the 80's. :angry:

 

Sounds to me like your sister is a lot more sensible than you are mate..... I take it she IS actually out there earning and has or has had a career at some point.....

 

You ask why the state should fund people who go to uni....? Simple, because the people who go to uni today are the ones who will end up running the country tomorrow... Fool.... :rolleyes: Name me ONE high ranking civil servant, politician, judge, etc who doesn't have a university education.....

 

Here's a question for you, why should I continue to fund the lifestyles of people who lounge around on the dole their whole lives or get themselves pregnant because they cant be arsed to use a condom or the pill....? Why should I fund the lifestyles of people like Freddie bloody Goodman who fukk up this country's economy, lies to the board and the govt about it, and just waltzes off with huge pensions, at OUR expense....?

 

That's a sweeping generalisation about single parents Grimley. I know a single mother, 30 now, with two daughters aged 13 and 11. Different dads and not with either now. Her eldest was in my daughter's nursery class. She's never worked a day in her life but her daughters are the nicest, kindest, most polite girls you can meet and very good academically. They don't stand on street corners, swear, shoplift or terrorise old ladies. I know that for a fact. So they're not all "feral brats" as you rudely call them. Do you begrudge her money and free rent when she's bringing them up excellently with good values?

 

So, er, you call not being bothered to go out and build a career for herself and just allowing the taxpayer to bring up her kids to be a "good value"...? I dont... What does that actually teach her kids....? Fair enough, maybe they are well behaved, but it doesn't alter the fact that now that both kids are certainly OLD enough, this person can easily go out and have a career or part-time job.... And she's only 30 as well, so certainly a perfectly good age. There's plenty of single parents I know of at uni... And, as I have oft repeated, I would gladly fund their degrees and burseries, or even child-care costs in order to help them make ends meet while studying... It cannot POSSIBLY be right that the State funds people for doing absolutely nothing with their lives and yet penalizes them through taking away benefits and housing benefits for wanting to better themselves with education and build a career.... THAT is an unfair system....

Why would I lie though? I am claiming Incapacity Benefit for depression/nerves. Have been since 1988. Why would I invent that?

 

to sit on your arse all day instead of working, plenty do lie about it or at least exagerate it. and like i said, your manner on here isnt one that smacks of a depressive, plus others who have also been 'depressed' dont agree with you!

 

you need to get a job/life

I am up at 6.45 every weekday to get my daughter up, do her packed lunch and get her off to school. Hate rising so early but have no choice as a dad. :)

so you get up before 7am 5 times a week yet you can't get a part time job?

 

Don't be ridiculous.

 

There is no reason why you can't get a part time job somewhere.

 

Manning a checkout in a supermarket may not sound exciting and it may not pay very well, but it can be very rewarding. Trust me. I worked in various Morrisons departments for 18months and you get to meet interesting people, not only the people who you work with but regular customers. They can be very flexible with work hours and you could even work whilst your daughter is at school. walk her there in the morning, walk to work, walk back to school pick her up and take her home. I'm not suggesting you start at the deep end, and neither would they if they were a good employer. You could start on a small shift maybe twice a week, and slowly build it up as you get confidence. Surely dragging your ass back out into the real world and trying to get back to what was once normal is one of the best cures for depression. A regular structure is good for you and getting into a routine where you get up and do something valuable with your day is something to be proud about.

 

Just imagine how proud of you your daughter would be of you if you told her after 20+ years on the dole you got a job. Could you just imagine that? You would set a brilliant example to her, she would see that you have overcome a serious problem to try and do something worthwhile with your life.

 

A very good friend of mine from work is a single mother. I think the only benefits she gets are Child Benefits. She works 2 jobs to provide for her son, and she works damn hard. I can say without a doubt i am proud to be her friend and that she is one of the hardest working people i know. She's 25, her son is nearly 6, and she went back to college a few years ago and is now a fully trained beauty therapist. It can be done.

to sit on your arse all day instead of working, plenty do lie about it or at least exagerate it. and like i said, your manner on here isnt one that smacks of a depressive, plus others who have also been 'depressed' dont agree with you!

 

 

Oh I see what you mean now. ;) Thought you meant I wasn't claiming at all. :)