April 16, 200916 yr Slightly off topic but an example of the police state that we now live in, scary $h!t It is now a criminal offence to film or photograph a policeman under anti terrorist legislation :rolleyes: Stalin and Putin would be very proud of Labour -_- 76 Offences relating to information about members of armed forces etc (1) After section 58 of the Terrorism Act 2000 (collection of information) insert— “58A Eliciting, publishing or communicating information about members of armed forces etc (1) A person commits an offence who— (a) elicits or attempts to elicit information about an individual who is or has been— (i) a member of Her Majesty's forces, (ii) a member of any of the intelligence services, or (iii) a constable, which is of a kind likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism, or (B) publishes or communicates any such information. (2) It is a defence for a person charged with an offence under this section to prove that they had a reasonable excuse for their action. (3) A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable— (a) on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 10 years or to a fine, or to both; (B) on summary conviction— (i) in England and Wales or Scotland, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 12 months or to a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum, or to both; (ii) in Northern Ireland, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 6 months or to a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum, or to both. (4) In this section “the intelligence services” means the Security Service, the Secret Intelligence Service and GCHQ (within the meaning of section 3 of the Intelligence Services Act 1994 (c 13)). (5) Schedule 8A to this Act contains supplementary provisions relating to the offence under this section.”. (2) In the application of section 58A in England and Wales in relation to an offence committed before the commencement of section 154(1) of the Criminal Justice Act 2003 (c 44) the reference in subsection (3)(B)(i) to 12 months is to be read as a reference to 6 months. (3) In section 118 of the Terrorism Act 2000 (c 11) (defences), in subsection (5)(a) after “58,” insert “58A,”. (4) After Schedule 8 to the Terrorism Act 2000 insert the Schedule set out in Schedule 8 to this Act. Edited April 16, 200916 yr by B.A Baracus
April 16, 200916 yr I never knew you were such a liberal :heehee: Weren't that from 2000 though? Edited April 16, 200916 yr by Harve
April 17, 200916 yr I never knew you were such a liberal :heehee: Weren't that from 2000 though? Not sure but I can find the 2000 (c11) sections here: http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/ukpga_20000011_en_1 I can't find the one posted here. I might be reading a different version of 2000. ;)
April 17, 200916 yr Not sure but I can find the 2000 (c11) sections here: http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/ukpga_20000011_en_1 I can't find the one posted here. I might be reading a different version of 2000. ;) It was an amendment bought out in 2003 There is a reference to 2003 in the above post >>> (2) In the application of section 58A in England and Wales in relation to an offence committed before the commencement of section 154(1) of the Criminal Justice Act 2003 (c 44) the reference in subsection (3)(cool.gif(i) to 12 months is to be read as a reference to 6 months.
April 17, 200916 yr I never knew you were such a liberal :heehee: Weren't that from 2000 though? I wouldn't say I am a liberal in the true sense of the word ^_^ Just I believe in civil liberties, privacy, not having a police state and ever since 9/11 this government has used "terrorism" to erode civil liberties, take away privacy and we are fast becoming a police state, the police should be serving its citizens not its government
April 18, 200916 yr UK cop questioned over G20 protest death April 18, 2009, 7:34 am A London policeman has been questioned on suspicion of manslaughter over a man's death at G20 summit protests this month, after it was found he died of a haemorrhage and not a heart attack. Ian Tomlinson, 47, was filmed being hit by a police officer with a baton on April 1 minutes before collapsing in London's financial district, the focus of demonstrations against the meeting of world leaders on the economic crisis. He had not been taking part in the protests, which lasted two days and were marred with spells of violence. Tomlinson's death raised concerns about the tactics deployed by police to contain the protesters and was followed by scores of complaints alleging police brutality at the demonstrations. On Friday it was revealed that the results of an initial post-mortem examination which found Tomlinson had suffered a heart attack had been overturned by a second examination conducted by coroner Nat Cary. "Doctor Cary's opinion is that the cause of death was abdominal haemorrhage. The cause of the haemorrhage remains to be ascertained," the coroners' court statement, released by his family's lawyers, said. Moments later the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC), the police watchdog, said an officer suspended after the death of Tomlinson had been questioned under caution. "Following the initial results of the second post-mortem, a Metropolitan Police officer has been interviewed under caution for the offence of manslaughter as part of an ongoing inquiry into the death of Ian Tomlinson," it said, adding it could not provide further details at this stage. Tomlinson's stepson, Paul King, said his family members were feeling stress mixed with anger. "First we were told that there had been no contact with the police; then we were told that he died of a heart attack," he said. "Now we know that he was violently assaulted by a police officer and died from internal bleeding. As time goes on we hope that the full truth about how Ian died will be made known. "We just want the truth and hope that the IPCC do a thorough investigation." London's Metropolitan Police expressed its "sincere regret" over Tomlinson's death soon afterwards but said it could not comment specifically on the post-mortem findings due to the ongoing probe. "The Metropolitan Police Service wishes to reiterate its sincere regret in relation to the death of Ian Tomlinson. Our thoughts are with his family, and all those affected by this tragedy," it said. Meanwhile, London mayor Boris Johnson urged a "fast and transparent" conclusion to the investigation and said the police deserved "overwhelming support". Metropolitan Police chief Paul Stephenson called in government inspectors to examine the force's tactics in dealing with mass protests following Tomlinson's death. Stephenson has also said footage of clashes will be reviewed to see if any other incidents need to be looked at. Nearly 150 complaints have been made to the IPCC about officers' behaviour during two days of protests over the G20 London summit on April 2. About 70 involve claims of excessive force. The IPCC is also looking into the case of an animal rights activist, Nicola Fisher, who was filmed being slapped across the face and hit with a baton during an altercation with an officer. Source: http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/mp/5506397/uk...-protest-death/
April 25, 200916 yr Author Slightly off topic but an example of the police state that we now live in, scary $h!t It is now a criminal offence to film or photograph a policeman under anti terrorist legislation :rolleyes: <_< Fukkin' disgrace that.... And yet, the Police can film protestors however peaceful they are, with total impunity..... I;ve seen them do it.... Bottom line, if people handn't been filming that fukkin' pig beating that guy, they'd've gotten away with murder... Literally.... <_<
April 25, 200916 yr Author ever since 9/11 this government has used "terrorism" to erode civil liberties, take away privacy and we are fast becoming a police state, the police should be serving its citizens not its government 100% in agreement with that Craig.... There were a good many coppers who went out on that march with the attitude of "me want to beat up protestors.. UG!" like a bunch of Captain Cavemen in blue uniforms.... <_< And it's far from being the first time that the Filth have acted as Agents Provocateurs in this manner - the 80s during the Miners' strike and the horrendous treatment meted out to New Age travellers at Stonehenge in the 80s was just horrendous, read up on the notorious Battle of the Beanfield, where coppers just ran amok, not even attempting to actually affect arrests, they just went in there basically to hurt a "bunch of hippies", women and children were beaten to a pulp... Yeah, real fukkin' heroes.... :angry: And now, we're clearly seeing that attitude come back..... And, besides, now we know the REAL truth of what happened to Mr Tomlinson.... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- New G20 death post-mortem agreed Source - BBC News Ian Tomlinson died after he was pushed over by a police officer A third post-mortem examination will be carried out on Ian Tomlinson, who died during the G20 protests, the City of London coroner has said. The request was made by lawyers for a police officer interviewed about the newspaper vendor's death on 1 April. Mr Tomlinson, 47, died minutes after he was pushed over by a policeman during demonstrations in central London. Two examinations have come to different conclusions on the cause of death. A third will be conducted on Wednesday. A spokesman for the City of London coroner said: "HM deputy coroner for the City of London has agreed to a request from the legal advisers to a police officer for a further post-mortem examination to be conducted on the body of Mr Ian Tomlinson." A Metropolitan Police pathologist would also be present to observe the post-mortem examination at the request of Scotland Yard, he said. Mr Tomlinson's body would then be released to his family, he added. Examination findings The police officer at the centre of the allegations has been suspended and interviewed under caution on suspicion of manslaughter over the death of Mr Tomlinson. He was filmed hitting the newspaper seller with his baton and throwing him to the ground. A first pathologist, Dr Freddy Patel, concluded that Mr Tomlinson died from coronary artery disease. But Dr Nat Cary carried out a second test and found evidence of hardening of Mr Tomlinson's heart but said it was not sufficient to have caused the man's death. He concluded abdominal bleeding had caused his death. The incident is currently being investigated by the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC). ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In the words of NWA/Ice Cube... FUKK THA POLICE..... :angry:
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